If I may add some comments.Originally Posted by Lobster5
1) If you do have 32pt, a Human, 12 Str/16 Dex/14 Con/14 Int/14 Wis/8 Cha would have the same number of skill points, trading +1 UMD and the racial weapons for +10 HP and an extra feat.
2) I would also consider dropping the TWF feats (going THF without the feat line) in favor of PA and maybe Lightning reflexes. I don't see this char meleeing much, tbh. This would even allow to switch Wis and Dex.
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11-15-2010, 10:19 AM #1521The Hatchery
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11-15-2010, 10:47 AM #1522Community Member
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1. They don't have 32 points Originally Posted by karl_k0ch
- Additionally drop Cha to 8 means one less turn (turns are valuable on Radiant Servant, and most clerics these days will choose that. By dropping INT to 14 you also lose +1 to search and disable.
You additionally lose the drow racial bonus to search checks, and you lose the racial dexterity line. Doing this build with a non-elf isn't a good idea.
2. The only reason i included TWF is that I was simply making use of Drow dexterity bonuses and if you're going to melee on this (not really recommended) you might as well do support melee with stat damagers/vorpals. You're not going to get any DPS out of 12 str, and if you go PA you're just going to miss a lot.
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11-16-2010, 09:14 AM #1523Community Member
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1. Yep, it's not a good idea to pull this off without the elf's racial traits and abilities. Originally Posted by Lobster5
1. They don't have 32 points - Additionally drop Cha to 8 means one less turn (turns are valuable on Radiant Servant, and most clerics these days will choose that. By dropping INT to 14 you also lose +1 to search and disable.
You additionally lose the drow racial bonus to search checks, and you lose the racial dexterity line. Doing this build with a non-elf isn't a good idea.
2. The only reason i included TWF is that I was simply making use of Drow dexterity bonuses and if you're going to melee on this (not really recommended) you might as well do support melee with stat damagers/vorpals. You're not going to get any DPS out of 12 str, and if you go PA you're just going to miss a lot.
2. Don't. Cleric builds are strapped for feats enough without the need to thin them out even further. Replace Two Weapon Fighting with another feat. Lightning Reflexes is a decent choice since a high reflex saving throw will help a fair amount in later levels.
3. (my addition) drop Strength to 10, drop Intelligence to 14, raise wisdom with those extra points. A small penalty to Search is nothing, you can make that up with enhancements, items, etc. But a loss in the DC of your spells and a good number of spell points is fatal to ANY cleric. This is a Healing Trapmonkey build, it doesn't need much or any melee power since it can make up for it later with blade barrier and searing light.Home Server: Cannith
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11-16-2010, 09:58 AM #1524Community Member
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Finally got around to rolling this guy up. I found a couple discrepancies, but I could be wrong in my thinking. Don't rangers get the proficiency for kukri and is 2 rogue worth it since there's only 10 dex? I mean evasion is wasted if you can't dodge it in the first place right? Originally Posted by CrescentCalling_5
Now that I have unlocked drow was thinking of going with that for race. Also, was maybe thinking 2 fighter or maybe even 2 barb instead of the 2 rogue or even just going 2 ranger/18 wiz.
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11-16-2010, 11:27 AM #1525Community Member
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The build has all the necessary cleric feats already, lightning reflexes is not preferable to a feat that brings quite a lot of melee prowess for little effectiveness onto the table. He wants this to be a solo build, solo builds need to have variance in strategy. The reflex save will be pretty good regardless. Originally Posted by CrescentCalling_5
This is a bad idea, this loses one skill point per level on a build that is going to need every skill point it can get. It additionally puts the character in danger because encumberance will negate evasion and a strength of 10 is just asking for that to happen. +1 DC to spells is pretty meaningless since this is not a primarily casting build. The SP gain from this at level 20 is ~ 25. It's not worth it.3. (my addition) drop Strength to 10, drop Intelligence to 14, raise wisdom with those extra points. A small penalty to Search is nothing, you can make that up with enhancements, items, etc. But a loss in the DC of your spells and a good number of spell points is fatal to ANY cleric. This is a Healing Trapmonkey build, it doesn't need much or any melee power since it can make up for it later with blade barrier and searing light.
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11-16-2010, 04:46 PM #1526The Hatchery
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Answers in orange. Originally Posted by The_Mud_Man
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Regarding the Clonkmonkey: The requester did mention that he/she was near 32pt, this is why I included my if. Nevertheless, I see that I am not used to Cleric building much and I now realize that I made suggestions which were worse than I thought. I apologize for the confusion caused.
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11-19-2010, 09:57 PM #1527Community Member
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Lookin for a character to take good advantage of a +5 Mith Twilight FP....I'm thinking either pure wizzy or a sorc with some sorta splash (maybe pally)?
Since evasion isn't really an option, I'm not lookin for rogue/monk splash unless it ups the anty for the build...
High AC would be a huge plus (I like AC builds) but mainly just wanna be a useful caster wearing Full plate...
Also got a skyvault shield that I can take advantage of situationally...
32pt builds are available...Possibly even a TR with a cleric past life but I don't really see that helping much...
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Thoughs/suggestions?Last edited by kinar; 11-19-2010 at 10:01 PM.
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11-19-2010, 10:27 PM #1528Community Member
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Originally Posted by sigtrent
hey im looking for a 2wf dps build With umd can u help?
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11-20-2010, 01:04 AM #1529Community Member
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I do have 32 pts but was interested in a Drow, but if 32 pts/different race would be better...then so be it. Originally Posted by karl_k0ch
Answers in orange.
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Regarding the Clonkmonkey: The requester did mention that he/she was near 32pt, this is why I included my if. Nevertheless, I see that I am not used to Cleric building much and I now realize that I made suggestions which were worse than I thought. I apologize for the confusion caused.
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11-20-2010, 04:14 PM #1530Community Member
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looking for a DPS healer with TWF bastard swrods, can u oblige?
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11-21-2010, 05:13 AM #1531The Hatchery
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Pure str-based rogue. Assasin III. Any race which begins with an H, but doesn't have more than one "lf" in its name is a good choice. Originally Posted by greator
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11-22-2010, 10:50 AM #1532Community Member
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i would love to play a wizard
Hi all,
I would love to play a wizard. Nothing fancy tho, but the main thing i want to do i to solo most of my quests, or be able to solo them with a merc if necessary.
I am in need of a 28point build, only the standard races and i cant buy anything yet (poor little ol' me...)
For all other things i rely on the experience and knowledge of u experienced players to help me out!
Thanks a lot if u can help!
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11-24-2010, 03:39 PM #1533Community Member
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Hi,
I would like to add to that i would like to play a caster wizard. I have seen a lot of wizard builds with a lot of melee. And a sorcerer is great too of course
Cheers,
Fl0w
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11-24-2010, 06:29 PM #1534Community Member
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Awesome thread!
I have a human lvl 5, 3Fi/2Ro, and plan on taking him to 20 as 12Fi/7Ro/1X, THF, UMD, if possible stunning/tripping. Its most likely been done, but if you could provide a good link or insight it would be appreciated. 32 pt build available, will be getting a +2 to all tome lvl 7. I like to keep my rogue skills up near max so was thinking rogue level every 3 levels. Currently have him at:
Str 16
Dex 14
Con 14
Int 14
Wis 12
Cha 8
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11-24-2010, 07:49 PM #1535The Hatchery
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The Prodigy might suit your needs. Originally Posted by Jhaeran
It's a 12 Ranger/7 Rogue/1 Monk and is quite gear and stathungry: It's not the best choice for a first toon. And you would need to reroll because he's ranger-based and not Fighter-based.
Maybe even if you don't roll that build, you get some ideas from it.
Edit: I apologize for not reading properly. I did indeed miss that you were requesting a THF build.
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Have a look at tihocan's builds: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=232660 Originally Posted by TheFl0w
Hi,
I would like to add to that i would like to play a caster wizard. I have seen a lot of wizard builds with a lot of melee. And a sorcerer is great too of course
Cheers,
Fl0wLast edited by karl_k0ch; 11-25-2010 at 06:50 AM.
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11-24-2010, 09:16 PM #1536Community Member
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Thanks, so is THF completely gimped compared to TWF? Everytime I ask about THF I always get a TWF build
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11-25-2010, 12:15 AM #1537Community Member
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Ummm, less DPS, yes (assuming t?f/it?f/gt?f feats all taken). Gimped? Not really, IMHO. There are cases where I want to throw grazing hits around to maintain crowd aggro and beat 'em down (using THF), or you need the extra STR bonus damage to bypass a mob's DR enough to hurt it much, if you cannot/don't have anything to bypass it. But with TWF you get more weapon procs due to the doubled rate of swinging your 1-H weapons, and in most cases that means you can do more DPS due to the added d6's per hand. Originally Posted by Jhaeran
Thanks, so is THF completely gimped compared to TWF? Everytime I ask about THF I always get a TWF build
The "Big F'n Stick" build is usually the first thing to come to mind for THF... and there will be others. But TWF is still king.Goe ahed... korekt mah spelin'.
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11-25-2010, 02:59 AM #1538Founder
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Lightning Mage (caster that both moves quick and can summon lightning)
Thinking a Half Elf Dragonmark Storm caster who hits a reasonable AC. Likely an Archmage instead of a Pale Master if a wizard anything, though I believe Dragonmark of Storm only goes off CHA.
This is a fun build and I'm looking at some ideas myself. Half Elf makes it easier to go 20 in a casting class and get AC if you use the Monk Dil.
With the update of a significant Ice persistent AoE I'm hoping to see Electric get a solid persistent AoE as well, but really can't plan on it.Last edited by Maldavenous; 11-25-2010 at 03:06 AM.
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11-26-2010, 02:41 PM #1539Community Member
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Requesting a barbarian DPS build with sufficient healing power to solo most quests on hard or elite. not VIP in any way so 28pt, no tomes, and free races.
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11-29-2010, 01:18 PM #1540
I'm not so sure this is really possible. You could make a freebie barbarian with some healing ability, but to be able to self sustain in nearly any elite quest... probably not happening. Originally Posted by gone430
Honestly these days, you should simply bring a cleric hireling and make a good solid barbarian that is easy to heal. This will be far more effective than making one that can do a good job healing itself.
I don't have a FtP barbarian so I'll work one up for you and post it.
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