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**Fecerak** · 09-23-2009, 12:41 PM

I am looking for an Arcane Gish that is good at both solo/duoing and good at endgame

I am thinking Wiz/Ftr, but if there is really good reasons to be Sor/something I might change my mind...

I want to be WF, and be good at buffing myself, and be a good dps (and possibly an okay tank)

I have already made one, but I can reroll if it is necesarry...

It is Wiz 1/Ftr 2 atm, planning to some more wizard levels soon...

It has 16/10/16/16/6/6 in starting stats, and for feats I picked PA, THF, Extend, Mithral body and WF (slashing)

Any help?

**Mast3rR0b** · 09-24-2009, 03:56 AM

Hi guys, i am looking for a Drow FvS 28 point build.

My primary objective is to be a very good (let's assume a in good/very good/ excellent scale) healer, but still good at melee and offensive casting, in this order.

i don't mind multiclassing a bit, and i think i can afford to purchase a few tome s from store.

As melee i intend not to dual wield, so forget TWF. On this char i would rather prefer go on Longsword/Shield or maybe 2h-greatsword.

Is this doable or is it kinda of a dream?

If not, can you please post me a build complete of spell per levels too? I'm a bit confused on which one should be better use...

Thank you in advance

**Darkrok** · 09-24-2009, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by huxt592

Hey! I'm looking for a Cleric Rogue Hybrid Build. I want an amazing healer than can also be used as a good trap monkey. 28pt Preferably and not a Drow. Evasion would be nice but not a necessity. Also can be able to offensive cast when not needed to heal. not looking for any melee whatsoever, dont expect to be soloing much either. 20 levels.

Thanks in advance!

Offensive casting would be tough due to DC's being lower from levels and limited feats (especially with the level 1 feat off-limits for casting purposes). To be the best healer you can be in this build requires a metric ton of achievements (4 total healing lines costing 34 of your 80 ap's) and a fair number of feats - empower healing and maximize are pretty important while healing and extend is kind of important when you realize that this character may be leaned on to buff due to smaller sp and lower cleric level - if you get two healers you can perform well saving the sp's for the main healer by buffing.

My build concept is the 'walking shrine'. I make sure that all of the healing feats and achievements mentioned above are maxed. Then my next priority is to get as many uses of Turn Undead as possible and max the Divine Vitality line to be able to hand out a ton of SP's to the group. A healing focused pure cleric already has some issues with nuking (DC's hard to optimize, achievements a bit tight, etc). Toss in 2-3 rogue levels and you're really shooting yourself in the foot. My thinking at that point was that you could build a cleric that had the top available healing and could sort of nuke (but would never be that good at it) or you could build a cleric that had the top available healing and nearly the top on providing SP to party members.

This build is pretty equipment and tome-friendly. You'll need a +1 int tome before level 4 for the skill points and a +1 tome for wisdom by level 20 (along with a +6 wis item) to cast your level 9 spells. I've been told that I could actually get away with 11 wis fairly easily so the 12 should give you a decent cushion. This build does everything you asked for except for the nuking. You can still nuke but anything with a DC is going to be highly resisted.

I've balanced the skills out to be mostly useful at most levels all along. They're not maxed in the end game and rather are balanced based on the score + mod to be about even all the way through. There just aren't enough SP's to max everything with a 28-point build and only a +1 int tome. Use a +3 int tome or a 32-point build (dropping cha down two points to add two points to int) or some combination of those two things (ie +2 int tome with 32-point build and an extra point going to charisma to start with 16) and you can nearly max everything at the end.

Possible Modifications:
1) You could swap the Cha and Wis scores (including the bonus points a 8,12,16,20) if you wanted more SP, DC, and will saves. You lose some uses of Divine Vitality and your fairly important bonus to UMD. A starting wis/cha of 16/10 is possible in the 28-point build so you wouldn't be hopeless on the wisdom side of things with your
2) You could drop Improved Mental Toughness to slide Force of Personality in at level 15 or 16 for a +3 to will saves.
3) You could drop Improved Mental Toughness to slide in Skill Focus: UMD. Only really recommended on the 32-point build (especially with a +2 or greater int tome) where you'll be maxing your UMD skill at 23 points, getting 23 points from skills, 5 points from base charisma (requires a +1 tome not listed in current build), 3 points from +6 charisma item for a total of 31. If you can't get to the point you want to get this would be an option but again, this is more of a power-gamer end-game option.
4) You could drop a lot of the survivability achievements I took toward the end (6 AP in Human: Improved Recovery I & II and 8 AP in Racial Toughness I-III and Human Adaptability Constitution) and put those 14 AP's toward rogue skill improvements - maxing out the Disable Device Line and filling out the first two areas for open lock, search, and spot for example.
5) You could dump up to 10 AP's from the survivability areas to get 110 more SP's - an increase of just under 10% of your unbuffed naked amount.

There's definitely some wiggle-room at the tail end and a bit of flavor on which rogue skills to place your focus. You could even drop spot altogether and have plenty of points with which to max your other rogue skills if you feel like you know where everything is well enough to do without it. As I mentioned, this is a good to great healer (only limitation is a lower SP pool than a pure cleric), it's highly survivable, and the Human Versatility line gives you some great boosts to your rogue skills while giving you extra options when those skills aren't needed.

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Cloguen Shrinemobile
Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(3 Rogue \ 17 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 286
Spell Points: 1156 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 12
Will: 12

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength              8                  8                    8
Dexterity             8                  8                    8
Constitution         14                 15                   16
Intelligence         16                 18                   18
Wisdom               12                 13                   13
Charisma             15                 18                   18

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               3                  3                    3
Bluff                 6                  8                    8
Concentration         4                 25                   25
Diplomacy             6                  8                    8
Disable Device        7                 27                   28
Haggle                6                  8                    8
Heal                  1                  1                    1
Hide                 -1                 -1                   -1
Intimidate            2                  4                    4
Jump                  3                  3                    3
Listen                1                  1                    1
Move Silently        -1                 -1                   -1
Open Lock             3                 22                   23
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                3                  4                    4
Search                7                 18                   19
Spot                  5                 19.5                 19.5
Swim                 -1                 -1                   -1
Tumble                3                  3                    3
Use Magic Device      6                 20                   20

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Rogue Search I


Level 2 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Spell (1): Bane
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cause Fear
Spell (1): Command
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Doom
Spell (1): Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light
Spell (1): Obscuring Mist
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (1): Shield of Faith
Spell (1): Summon Monster I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I


Level 3 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1.5)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Empower Healing I


Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Spell (2): Aid
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (2): Close Wounds
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Deific Vengance
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (2): Find Traps
Spell (2): Hold Person
Spell (2): Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Spell (2): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (2): Soundburst
Spell (2): Spawn Screen
Spell (2): Summon Monster II
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I


Level 5 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning II


Level 6 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extra Turning
Spell (3): Bestow Curse
Spell (3): Blindness
Spell (3): Contagion
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (3): Glyph of Warding
Spell (3): Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Protection From Energy
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (3): Summon Monster III
Spell (3): Water Breathing
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality II


Level 7 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Empower Healing II


Level 8 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Spell (4): Chaos Hammer
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Deathward
Spell (4): Dismissal
Spell (4): Divine Power
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (4): Holy Smite
Spell (4): Inflict Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (4): Order's Wrath
Spell (4): Poison
Spell (4): Recitation
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (4): Summon Monster IV
Spell (4): Symbol of Flame
Spell (4): Unholy Blight
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III


Level 9 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 10 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Flame Strike
Spell (5): Greater Command
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Spell (5): Mass Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (5): Protection From Elements
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Spell (5): Slay Living
Spell (5): Spell Resistance
Spell (5): Stalwart Pact
Spell (5): Summon Monster V
Spell (5): Symbol of Pain
Spell (5): True Seeing
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality III


Level 11 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Empower Healing III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV


Level 13 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (6): Banishment
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Spell (6): Cometfall
Spell (6): Create Undead
Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic
Spell (6): Greater Glyph of Warding
Spell (6): Harm
Spell (6): Heal
Spell (6): Heroes Feast
Spell (6): Mass Bear's Endurance
Spell (6): Mass Bull's Strength
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Mass Eagle's Spendor
Spell (6): Mass Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Mass Owl's Wisdom
Spell (6): Summon Monster VI
Spell (6): Symbol of Fear
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion
Spell (6): Undead to Death
Spell (6): Word of Recall
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III


Level 14 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II


Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Spell (7): Destruction
Spell (7): Greater Restoration
Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (7): Mass Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (7): Mass Restoration
Spell (7): Mass Spell Resistance
Spell (7): Protection From Elements, Mass
Spell (7): Resurrection
Spell (7): Summon Monster VII
Spell (7): Symbol of Stunning
Spell (7): Symbol of Weakness
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 16 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 17 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Spell (8): Death Pact
Spell (8): Firestorm
Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (8): Mass Death Ward
Spell (8): Mass Inflict Critical Wounds
Spell (8): Summon Monster VIII
Spell (8): Symbol of Death
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery IV


Level 18 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 19 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Spell (9): Energy Drain
Spell (9): Implosion
Spell (9): Mass Heal
Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
Spell (9): True Resurrection
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+9)
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II

**Lifespawn** · 09-24-2009, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by glug

I'm a level 14 Chaotic Neutral Elf Rogue.

Pure Rogue. As in 14 levels of Rogue. I made choices mostly around being able to handle traps and locks that seem to be handled perfectly fine by people with a single splash level or rogue, if they are not just walked through. I also intended to backstab the **** out of things with two weapons and weapon finesse, although half the things I fight laugh at sneak attack damage.

I have two free respecs now that I'm playing again. It's a 28pt build, but I should be getting a +2 tome in a day or so.

Priorities:
1 - Actually being a useful character.

Here are my current base stats, with levelup stats included.
STR: 10 (includes +1 tome)
DEX: 21
CON: 12
INT: 14 (includes +1 tome.. no idea when/why I got these two..)
WIS: 10
CHA: 10

So.. since apparently Mod10 or Mod11 will allow me to do a full feat respec, I'm keen to know if this character is salvageable. Otherwise, if a feat or two could fix things up with the current respecs, that'd be great.

Feats:
Defensive Roll
Dodge
Improved Evasion
Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
Skill Focus: UMD
Weapon Finesse

Thanks folks. <3

take gtwf at 15 switch out dodge for toughness switch out deffensive roll for crippling strike

def roll and imp evasion are rogue class skills
dodge
itwf
twf
weapon finesse
and sf umd are your regular feats

**Lifespawn** · 09-24-2009, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Diethro

Hey I'm not sure if you are still open to requests, if so I have one for you. I'm hoping to create a Paladin, namely a tanking paladin. I want it to be able to tank very well (probably with intimidate), but also to be able to backup as a damage or support character if there is another tank in the party. I was thinking a good way would be to cross class with either ranger (dual weapon for dps) or if it was plausible, to cross class several levels of sorcerer for some crowd control (for the sake of supporting the group... HOLD PERSON FTW). Note these are only a few options. I am open to any ideas that would make for a good tank/support character.

I do not have 32pt build nor do I have access to tomes. When I do however I may come back and ask for a revamp.

intimitank i'd go dwarf and go 18 pally 2 ftr but if you want dps an intimitank isn't the best way to go to be a really good intimitank you have to devote alot to it.

If you wanted a dps pally i'd stay pure i can build both or neither just let me know what you think.

**Lifespawn** · 09-24-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by high-octane

I would like to request a build that is easy to solo but can also help out if i can get in a group. I play weird hours so sometimes i have to solo. I was thinking along the lines of cleric/rogue. Rogue to diasable/find traps and cleric to heal but hear they are harder to play. What would you recommend? Thanks.

rangers make great rogue splashes without giving up much and they can solo well

Clerics can solo alot at mid to high levels but you really want bladebarrier to do so it's the best cleric AOE.

And taking rogue levels means you will get that spell later along with all other spells.

**Lifespawn** · 09-24-2009, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Twistedlol

Hey Sigtrent ,

thanks for taking the time to do builds for all of us plebs. Was wondering if you could come up with a build which rotates around a bard/fighter build , somewhere along the lines of 15/1 , seeing new mod isn't out.

I have no tomes and it'll have to be a 28 pt build , still new to the game. Would love DPS , and being able to do self buffs and group if possible.

My mate is playing a cleric/rogue build atmo , and i thought that with this i might be able to buff both of us and fight with him

many thanks again and hope to see you in game!!

here you go you could drop improved two handed fighting and take toughness for some extra hp's.

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Level 20 Neutral Good Dwarf Male
(1 Fighter \ 19 Bard) 
Hit Points: 204
Spell Points: 604 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 11
Will: 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    21
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             14                    16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                    27
Bluff                 2                     3
Concentration         6                    26
Diplomacy             2                     3
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                6                    26
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  0                     0
Intimidate            2                     3
Jump                  7                    22
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         0                     0
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               6                    26
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     2
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  3                     5
Tumble                n/a                   1
Use Magic Device      6                    26

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 16 (Bard)


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense III
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery III
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery IV

**pogomonkeys** · 09-24-2009, 05:14 PM

im looking for a good 28pt tank build for a dwarf, any help?

**Zorminster** · 09-24-2009, 11:03 PM

Hey lifespawn, got a request for ya.

I've just started playing on a new server and have drow unlocked but not 32 pt builds. Consider me having access to things easily obtained by a level 7 cleric. (IE: I've got a small amount of plat to burn in the AH if need be, I can get ahold of some plain +2 or +3 armor/weapons, etc). Somehow I convinced myself I wanted that cleric to be melee capable and cast offensively.... he's certainly offensive with his 6 charisma. I can't find a single shopkeep willing to look me straight in the face when he tells me how much he'll buy my **** for!

So heres what i want: Someone with a strong haggle score who doesn't have to function primarily as a caster. I've already got the cleric that does lots of healing and I really don't want to make a haggle bard/healer. You know what i've got access too- take the reigns and point me in a direction

My going thought at the moment is i'd maybe like this to be done via rogue. I know my charisma wont be as high as it would be if i was building this on a bard, but I feel the ability to do strong DPS + trap + having a strong haggle (And by strong I don't mean this has to be earth shattering, just something that's worth it for me to use him for vending most of my stuff and buying my consumables- heck, TBH just having max ranks in haggle will make him a better deal then my cleric ;p ) is the most appealing option to me.

Edit, the urge hit me to try and figure it out myself. Here's what I've come up with but I know there are probably lots of things i've not considered for any innumerable amount of reasons. Concerned with health, saves (they're terrible) and the fact that i seem pigeon-holed into shortswords or a rapier/shortsword combo. Please critique and don't pull punches- lol

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Level 20 Lawful Good Drow Male
(20 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 222
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 8
Reflex: 20
Will: 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             12                    12
Dexterity            16                    26
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence         12                    12
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma             14                    14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    34
Bluff                 2                     6
Concentration         2                     6
Diplomacy             6                    31
Disable Device        5                    35
Haggle                6                    31
Heal                  0                     4
Hide                  3                    12
Intimidate            2                     6
Jump                  5                    28
Listen                0                     6
Move Silently         3                    12
Open Lock             7                    35
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     5
Search                5                    35
Spot                  4                    33
Swim                  1                     5
Tumble                4                    13
Use Magic Device      6                    29

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Search I
Enhancement: Rogue Spot I


Level 2 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Improved Spell Resistance I
Enhancement: Elven Perception I
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I


Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I


Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Elven Perception II


Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device II


Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Search II


Level 7 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Disable Device


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Negotiator


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost IV
Enhancement: Rogue Cheat Death
Enhancement: Elven Perception III
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes II
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing III
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing IV
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device III
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device IV
Enhancement: Rogue Spot II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III

**elyssaria** · 09-25-2009, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by elyssaria

Greetings!

I have a really really tricky build for you experienced players that I would like to have some help with. The criterias are the following:

* Halfling
* Dragon Runes of Healing
* Main class = monk (wind stance)
* Unarmed Weapons
* Tomes allowed mainly +2 tomes and a few +3 tomes
* Splashes Favored Soul and Paladin
* 32 point build
* DPS focused

alternative to above criterias:

* Free choice of race and no requirement of Dragon Runes
* Free choice of splashes as long self healing and good saves are to be expected. Utility is also a plus.

I would truly appreciate as exact build as possible with preferred items and such included.

I know this one gonna be tricky since I have been thinking about at least 10 different builds and now I think I may need some new input to progress.

Thanks in advance!

/Ely

Guess this one is a tricky one?

Any takers?

/Ely

**Artis_Resistance** · 09-25-2009, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by elyssaria

Guess this one is a tricky one?

Any takers?

/Ely

Lol.

**jboyd158** · 09-25-2009, 07:07 AM

Could I have you're opinion on this build? Basically a Acrobat/Monk

Code:

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(7 Monk \ 13 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 238
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 14
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    17
Dexterity            14                    19
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom               14                    19
Charisma             10                    10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                    12
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         3                    26
Diplomacy             0                     2
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     0
Heal                  2                     4
Hide                  6                    27
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  6                    24
Listen                6                    10
Move Silently         6                    27
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     0
Search                4                    17
Spot                  6                    25
Swim                  2                     3
Tumble                6                    31
Use Magic Device      4                    23

Notable Equipment
Ring: Dextrous Ring of  
Ring: Wise Ring of  
Belt: Ogre Power Belt of Greater False Life 

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Balance I


Level 2 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Tumble I


Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Disciple of Breezes
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 5 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Balance II


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking II


Level 8 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Tumble II


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Monk Path) Philosophy - Path of Harmonious Balance
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Fists of Light


Level 10 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III


Level 11 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat I


Level 13 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Wisdom I


Level 14 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV


Level 16 (Rogue)


Level 17 (Monk)
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane II


Level 19 (Monk)
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II


Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II

You're the best Ron!

**-Mojo-** · 09-25-2009, 11:01 AM

I have a elven 28 pt build 2 rang 5 rogue that duel weilds short swords and/or rapiers. I would live to have a max Rogue minor Ranger that goes in for sneak attacks and maxes out the trap/ disarming capibilities.
I looked through all the builds and did not see any good ones for this (see below for qualifications).

If you or anyone has a build or wants to try here is my challange, it needs to have:

Elf
32 pt build
Utilize rapiers
Two Wepon Fighting
Wepon Finesse
strong emphasis on disabling traps and all rogue skills.
take advantage of the ranger al little as possible while doing max backstabbing.
Dex monkey to the max
get high enough use magic device to use the majority of them.

Any takers on this, my bigest probelm is weighing out the least amount of ranger level, when to take them and getting HP up there. This is a tough balance because of the need for all stats in some way.

**RaymondCaleatry** · 09-25-2009, 11:22 AM

I am looking to build a bow fighter that wears heavy armour. Now i think this may be possible with a kensai bow fighter build. I think that it is possible to get +6 usable dex mod with mithril full plate and fighter armour mastery enhancements. Also with the weapon focus, kensai, and elf bow feats, it may be possible to have a decent to hit without rediculous dex. Finally this means that the character could have a high strength.

Currently i am looking at the following, but these can change if you have a better suggestion

elf
Fighter 18
ranger 1
Spellcaster 1

This combo will allow both kensia and arcane archer for infinate +5 arrows. So the weapon of choise would always a low + weapon with lots of extra damage.

Do you think this concept would work?
Is there a better way to make it work?

Ray

**azumakazuma** · 09-25-2009, 11:25 AM

hi. I'm looking for a 28 pt build for my gf to use. we'll probably play together sometimes but our schedules are often at odds and she'll probably solo quite a bit. she's played mmo's before (and usually gets more accomplished in the games then i do to be perfectly frank) so she's not new to gaming. At the moment she's mostly looking for a build that can kill things and not die, so probably a respectable amount of dps, defense and healing. For my part I'm thinking she might want to have some points in UMD, trapskills and such, but I'm fairly new to the game also so if that isn't feasible then disregard it. Also the caster classes seem fairly involved at first glance (limiting yourself to 3 spells at a time, spell reagents, no regenerating mana bar etc) so if they are necessary please try to bear in mind that she's unused to casters like this.

Also, any guide would have to be specific about things such as what/when to take enhancements/feats/skillups etc. a lot of the guides i've seen so far tend to have a list at the end but neither one of us really likes the idea of guessing which will be more useful and when. I understand the idea behind leaving them at the end of the list to give people the option of choosing for themselves, but until we play the game (as opposed to just reading about it) for a number of levels we just don't feel experienced enough to effectively choose what would really be most beneficial for our play-styles. If we start working on a second character at some point then it would be a different story, but for now, a little hand holding would be much appreciated

so in short:
-fun and not overly complicated
-28 point
-race left open (new/free player limit)
-class(es) left open (new/free player limit)
-mostly solo, occasional duo/small group
-the ability to heal self
-decent dps
-UMD a plus (but optional)
-trap/lockpick skills a plus (but optional)
-a detailed guide including starter attributes and skills at creation up to what it should look like at 20, feat selection per level as required, and which enhancements to select and when

**Lifespawn** · 09-25-2009, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by elyssaria

Guess this one is a tricky one?

Any takers?

/Ely

not not a tricky one just tons of requests i try to do 3 aday but i seem to get 5-6 requests aday plus pm's it will take abit but i will get to you.

**ongbak** · 09-26-2009, 03:41 PM

Hi was wondering if you could help me with a build.

A few of us are starting a WF static group soon, and I was planning on playing something a little different. I came up witht he idea of a 28pt WF Bard/Paladin. I've been playing around with the character genertator to no avail.

I would like a toon that has some decent buffs/resists/cc and can definatly handle himself in combat.

**chainlow** · 09-27-2009, 04:56 AM

I am looking for a good 28pt Halfling pure Monk build.

With decent dps and survivability.

Thanks

**Fecerak** · 09-27-2009, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Fecerak

I am looking for an Arcane Gish that is good at both solo/duoing and good at endgame

I am thinking Wiz/Ftr, but if there is really good reasons to be Sor/something I might change my mind...

I want to be WF, and be good at buffing myself, and be a good dps (and possibly an okay tank)

I have already made one, but I can reroll if it is necesarry...

It is Wiz 1/Ftr 2 atm, planning to some more wizard levels soon...

It has 16/10/16/16/6/6 in starting stats, and for feats I picked PA, THF, Extend, Mithral body and WF (slashing)

Any help?

Any help?

**Feadel** · 09-27-2009, 09:19 AM

I'm trying this out myself, but i'm curious to see how you would do it.
Drow Cleric/Rogue trickster priest. I'm focusing mainly on the rogue aspect and plan for 3 or 5 cleric, rest rogue. I guess she would be generalist rouge (no particular skill set focus) and a buff cleric (with healing to ease the main healer's job). Though any suggestions are appreciated. ;-)
(Forgot to mention that it's a 28 point build, no tomes currently)

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