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**Lifespawn** · 11-22-2008, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Barliman

I am looking for a 32 pt defensive build that doesn't require lots of raid gear to get to a good end game AC without outside help. Not worried about race. Want UMD for utiliy. Khopesh user so I can recycle some old weapons would be nice, but if there is a much easier way I am all for it.

i built this without umd but it can be switched with rogue instead of monk and a +2 int tome would allow you to keep intimidate and umd max'd

the build doesn't go for the highest ac possible because that does require some hard to get gear but it will have mid 50's ac and very good blocking dr with just a heavy shield but if you wanted more dr switching the enhancments around and getting the mastery lines would only lose you 1-2 ac.

evasion works for the monk in armor and shield you just won't be centered mith bp is your best bet till they get a good dt mith set.

pally levels lets you use all pally wands up to cure serious and 2 loh that will hit for maybe 50 each nothing special but in a pinch it's there.Also for the saves bonus with a +1 tome and +6 item you gain 2 to all saves easy to get.

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Level 16 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(10 Fighter \ 4 Paladin \ 2 Monk) 
Hit Points: 293
Spell Points: 5 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 12
Will: 12

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             16                    23
Dexterity            16                    16
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         12                    13
Wisdom               10                    11
Charisma              6                     7

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               5                    25
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         3                     5
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -2
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  3                     3
Intimidate            2                    24
Jump                  7                    15
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         3                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     1
Search                1                     3
Spot                  0                     0
Swim                  3                     6
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 4 (Paladin)


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Trip


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Paladin)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Iron Will


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery II
Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery III
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness I
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

if you would like the build with rogue in it let me know it's easy enough to switch

**Lifespawn** · 11-22-2008, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Flex

I'm a returning noob looking to roll a rogue for the first time. This has to be a 28 pt. build. I don't have any tomes. I have been thinking of the possibility of a Halfling or Dwarf 10 rogue / 6 ranger, TWF, Tempest, good at rogue skills, with good survivability, good UMD and heal wands. I prefer Halfling as a race I am open to an additional class to mix with the primary rogue. I am open to a number of suggestions since I am pretty green when it comes to builds.

Priority List:
- DPS
- Rogue Skills
- Survivability (not too squishy - I solo / duo quite a bit)
- Self Sustained Healing (wands are good)

Thanks in advance.

lots of ways to do this but halfling with the sneak attack enhancments is the best only problem is you say you solo/duo alot.

I see you only have 28 pt available so you don't play a whole lot so shrouding to make a radiance item might be hard but if you were commited to it i think thats the best way to go for dps against anything that can be critted.That being said i think a str based rogue would be the best for dps but you don't need so many rogue levels to get max skills so going along with your priority list here goes.

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Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(2 Monk \ 3 Rogue \ 11 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 176
Spell Points: 140 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 19
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             14                    18
Dexterity            14                    20
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence         12                    13
Wisdom               10                    12
Charisma             12                    12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 12
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               6                    13
Bluff                 1                     1
Concentration         1                     1
Diplomacy             1                     1
Disable Device        5                    21
Haggle                5                     6
Heal                  0                     1
Hide                  2                     7
Intimidate            1                     1
Jump                  6                    12
Listen                0                     3
Move Silently         2                     7
Open Lock             6                    19
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     1
Search                5                    22
Spot                  4                    22
Swim                  2                     4
Tumble                6                     9
Use Magic Device      5                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device


Level 10 (Ranger)


Level 11 (Ranger)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Ranger)


Level 14 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise


Level 16 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost III
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost IV
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Will)
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Ranger Search I
Enhancement: Ranger Search II
Enhancement: Ranger Spot I
Enhancement: Ranger Spot II
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I

this gets you tempest all rogue skills maxed except for ol greater two weapon fighting
manyshot improved precise shot max ranks in umd your own +4 ac from barkskin minimal tome use i assumed a +1 int by lvl 12 and 2 other +1 by 16
good dex for ac wisdom mod adds to ac some sneak attack and wand healing/scroll healing with some items and a boost.

**Flex** · 11-22-2008, 11:13 AM

This build looks good. I never considered adding a splash of Monk. I'm looking forward to trying it out.

**Lifespawn** · 11-22-2008, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by RespawnFury

I would like a sorcerer / wizard intimitank build. Feel free to go 32 point or drow as you see fit. Assume a full set of +2 tomes if necesarry. Must take at least 12 levels of sorcerer or 11 levels of wizard to cast tensers transformation. Would like an AC that breaks 60 self-buffed and a shield on.

need a bit more info going to melee with this build?
just nuking fine or do u want good dc's on your spells

how do you see yourself playing this build as a frontline melle with buffing or a nuker with the ability to get dirty when you need to

ac assuming raid loot?

**RespawnFury** · 11-24-2008, 02:46 AM

I mostly see this build doing buffs and fighting on the front line with the barbs and rangers. I don't have any particular weapons in mind however any of bludgeon, slash or ranged would be cool. It would be nice to be able to grab a bunch of agro, drop a firewall / cloud kill, and stand there with a complimentary weapon to finish everything off. I'd like to maxout my intimidate just to ensure everything is trying to kill me. For any bosses i would expect to be doing melee over the typical caster nuking. Spell dc's are unimportant and aside from knock am not counting on any spell's that can be saved on.

Raid loot is fair game too. I hope that helps some.

**Lifespawn** · 11-24-2008, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by RespawnFury

I mostly see this build doing buffs and fighting on the front line with the barbs and rangers. I don't have any particular weapons in mind however any of bludgeon, slash or ranged would be cool. It would be nice to be able to grab a bunch of agro, drop a firewall / cloud kill, and use a complimentary weapon to finish everything off. I'd like to maxout my intimidate just to ensure everything is trying to kill me. For any bosses i would expect to be doing melee over the typical caster nuking. Spell dc's are unimportant and aside from knock am not counting on any spell's that can be saved on.

Raid loot is fair game too. I hope that helps some.

10 base
11 dex (13) with +3 tome and +9 dex item
6 wis (8 )with +3 tome +9 item
5 prot
5 ce
1 dodge
4 rainment
8 bracers
3 chattering ring
1 alcy ritual
4 insight shroud weapon

=58(2 dex) (1 wisdom because u need a slot for insight)=61

4 selfcast 24 min shield
3 bark pot
1 haste

66(69)

5 pally
2 full ranger
4 bardsong
77(80)

don't think i screwed up anywhere but let me know if some1 catches something

dropping sf intimidate and bullheaded would be a net 4 intimidate loss but you could take twf and improved twf

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Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Male
(2 Monk \ 1 Rogue \ 13 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 144
Spell Points: 726 
BAB: 7\7\12
Fortitude: 9
Reflex: 17
Will: 17

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength              8                    10
Dexterity            18                    26
Constitution         12                    14
Intelligence         12                    16
Wisdom               16                    20
Charisma             10                    12

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               9                    16
Bluff                 5                     5
Concentration         2                     2
Diplomacy             1                     1
Disable Device        6                     7
Haggle                5                     5
Heal                  4                     5
Hide                  5                     8
Intimidate            5                    26
Jump                  4                     4
Listen                4                     7
Move Silently         5                     8
Open Lock             9                    13
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                     3
Search                2                     5
Spot                  4                     7
Swim                  0                     0
Tumble                9                    12
Use Magic Device      5                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 4 (Wizard)


Level 5 (Wizard)


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate


Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise


Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device


Level 13 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse


Level 16 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Empowering I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Maximizing I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Quickening I
Enhancement: Way of the Tenacious Badger I
Enhancement: Disciple of Breezes
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements II
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements III
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements II
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements III
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation II
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation III
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I

**Furysetzer** · 11-25-2008, 02:21 PM

Hi. Would it be possible to get a Barbarian/ Monk build? He needs to be a 32 pt. chaotic good human. Basically I want a dps focused handwraps master of destruction first and foremost. I won't be using weapons, but his first level needs to be Barb. He won't be using any Raid gear right off the bat. The level split doesn't matter with him. I was thinking either focusing secondary on many HP's or superb saves. Thirdly, and I don't know if it's possible or not, but it would be nice to have a decent haggle with him. Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give me.

**Tanka** · 11-25-2008, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Furysetzer

Would it be possible to get a Barbarian/ Monk build?

No, it's not possible. Barbarians must be non-Lawful and Monks must be Lawful.

**kinar** · 11-27-2008, 12:28 PM

Perhaps I missed it somewhere in this emense thread (thanks) but...

Is it possible to get a "fully capable rogue" out of a "fully capable cleric"?

Meaning, has to be at least 13 cleric (prefer 14) capable of healing endgame (max/emp at a minimum ..prefer ext too....with ~1500sp) with full set of rogue skills (open lock, search, disable, umd)...

Must have a "high enough" reflex save for evasion to be useful...around 25ish unbuffed.

I've been working on this idea in my head for quite some time and just cant get it to work without gimping the cleric too much...

32pt build and +1/+2 tomes available as needed...

**Lifespawn** · 11-27-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by kinar

Perhaps I missed it somewhere in this emense thread (thanks) but...

Is it possible to get a "fully capable rogue" out of a "fully capable cleric"?

Meaning, has to be at least 13 cleric (prefer 14) capable of healing endgame (max/emp at a minimum ..prefer ext too....with ~1500sp) with full set of rogue skills (open lock, search, disable, umd)...

Must have a "high enough" reflex save for evasion to be useful...around 25ish unbuffed.

I've been working on this idea in my head for quite some time and just cant get it to work without gimping the cleric too much...

32pt build and +1/+2 tomes available as needed...

bes i could come up with was a 23 reflex unbuffed with head of good fortune +5 item and alchemecal ritual without lowering the cleric duties tho gh and nightshield will net u another7 and

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Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Male
(3 Rogue \ 13 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 158
Spell Points: 1066 
BAB: 11\11\16\21
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 12
Will: 17

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength              8                     8
Dexterity            12                    17
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom               18                    26
Charisma             10                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               6                     7
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         3                     4
Diplomacy             0                     0
Disable Device        7                    23
Haggle                4                     4
Heal                  5                     8
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  3                     3
Listen                5                    10
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             6                    13
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                3                     3
Search                7                    28
Spot                  9                    22
Swim                 -1                    -1
Tumble                6                     7
Use Magic Device      4                    18.5

Notable Equipment
Ring: Dextrous Ring
Ring: Health Ring
Necklace: Wise Necklace
Trinket: Kardin’s Eye
Belt: Health Belt of Greater False Life 
Belt: Belt of Greater False Life 

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Lightning Reflexes


Level 2 (Cleric)


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 4 (Cleric)


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Cleric)


Level 8 (Rogue)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness


Level 16 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Perception I
Enhancement: Elven Perception II
Enhancement: Elven Perception III
Enhancement: Elven Perception IV
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes I
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Cleric Concentration I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Rogue Search I
Enhancement: Rogue Spot I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I

**BoundByChains** · 11-27-2008, 02:28 PM

I am looking to get a bard with maxed haggle and UMD.
Dual-wields daggers and uses Light repeaters.
Needs to be relatively sturdy.
+1 tomes available, as well as 32 point build.

No raid loot if possible.

**Lifespawn** · 11-27-2008, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by BoundByChains

I am looking to get a bard with maxed haggle and UMD.
Dual-wields daggers and uses Light repeaters.
Needs to be relatively sturdy.
+1 tomes available, as well as 32 point build.

No raid loot if possible.

had to do 2 ftr lvls to get everything you wanted tho you could drop the improved crits piercing if you crafted 2 min 2's for daggers and thats all you used then you could do 15 bard to get the ac song neway here you go

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Level 16 Neutral Good Human Male
(2 Fighter \ 14 Bard) 
Hit Points: 156
Spell Points: 676 
BAB: 12\12\17\22
Fortitude: 9
Reflex: 13
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             10                    10
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         15                    15
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             16                    24

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 5

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               7                    21
Bluff                 3                    24
Concentration         2                    11
Diplomacy             7                    24
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                7                    26
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  3                     4
Intimidate            3                     7
Jump                  4                     7
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         3                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               7                    25
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     0
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  0                     0
Tumble                7                     9
Use Magic Device      7                    28

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Bard)


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Light Crossbow


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Reload


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Spellsinger I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity II
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Bard Concentration I
Enhancement: Bard Concentration II
Enhancement: Bard Haggle I
Enhancement: Bard Perform I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma III

**Lifespawn** · 11-27-2008, 08:52 PM

for chadman

i'd suggest +2 tomes on str cha wisdom dex and con but str wis to be the most important

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Level 16 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(2 Paladin \ 14 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 289
Spell Points: 930 
BAB: 12\12\17\22
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 7
Will: 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             16                    22
Dexterity            12                    12
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               15                    20
Charisma             10                    13

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               2                     6
Bluff                 0                     1
Concentration         5                    23
Diplomacy             0                     1
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     1
Heal                  2                     5
Hide                  1                     1
Intimidate            0                     1
Jump                  3                     6
Listen                2                     5
Move Silently         1                     1
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                  2                     5
Swim                  3                     6
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 2 (Cleric)


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 4 (Cleric)


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Cleric)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 16 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith I
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith II
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness I
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness II
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness III
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness IV
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Cleric Concentration I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Smiting I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Smiting II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Smiting I
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting I
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting II
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting III
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting IV
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma I
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I

**mytalkingbox** · 11-29-2008, 02:29 PM

I was hoping you could construct a battlebard build for me, 15 bard, 1 fighter, with high umd? I have +1 tomes available, would like to be support tank

**Lifespawn** · 11-30-2008, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by mytalkingbox

I was hoping you could construct a battlebard build for me, 15 bard, 1 fighter, with high umd? I have +1 tomes available, would like to be support tank

racial toughness isn't added in there because i don't have it in the builder

also remember high cha and warchanter aren't usually mixed but this build is decent shouldn't have any trouble hitting with your songs active

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Level 16 Neutral Good Human Male
(1 Fighter \ 15 Bard) 
Hit Points: 207
Spell Points: 608 
BAB: 12\12\17\22
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 12
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             12                    13
Dexterity            16                    17
Constitution         15                    18
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             16                    24

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               7                    22
Bluff                 3                    14
Concentration         7                    23
Diplomacy             3                     8
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                7                    28
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  3                     3
Intimidate            3                     7
Jump                  1                     3
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         3                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               7                    28
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                    -1
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  1                     1
Tumble                7                     8
Use Magic Device      7                    26

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Bard)


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Warchanter I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Bard Haggle I
Enhancement: Bard Haggle II
Enhancement: Bard Perform I
Enhancement: Bard Perform II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I

**AmsterdamHeavy** · 11-30-2008, 10:39 AM

Feeling a little bored and looking for something new to play and have no idea as to the potential efficacy of this concept. Maybe you can help if you have time?

Some type of 32 pt halfling intimitank. Mith full plate is available, +1 tomes and other decent gear that doesnt require raiding. I actually have some nice kopeshes laying around that Ive collected but never used.

So I guess this is my "play what I havent yet build" in that Ive never played a halfling or a khopesh user before. I'd like to be able to soak aggro with good survivability while still being able to kill something if need be. Im seeing the last guy standing, able to survive what kills most others even if it means collecting stones and fleeing for a shrine or slowly hacking away at mobs to clean up because this is no dps build. Ive also never played a paladin if a mostly paladin build might fit...

If you have any suggestions or questions before you go to the trouble to build something please let me know.

Thanks in advance for your time.

**Lifespawn** · 11-30-2008, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by AmsterdamHeavy

Feeling a little bored and looking for something new to play and have no idea as to the potential efficacy of this concept. Maybe you can help if you have time?

Some type of 32 pt halfling intimitank. Mith full plate is available, +1 tomes and other decent gear that doesnt require raiding. I actually have some nice kopeshes laying around that Ive collected but never used.

So I guess this is my "play what I havent yet build" in that Ive never played a halfling or a khopesh user before. I'd like to be able to soak aggro with good survivability while still being able to kill something if need be. Im seeing the last guy standing, able to survive what kills most others even if it means collecting stones and fleeing for a shrine or slowly hacking away at mobs to clean up because this is no dps build. Ive also never played a paladin if a mostly paladin build might fit...

If you have any suggestions or questions before you go to the trouble to build something please let me know.

Thanks in advance for your time.

remember you will always be behind on intimidate because of being a halfling but you'll be able to intimidate everything but the raid booses all the time pally lvla for better healing u have 2 loh unyielding soverignity for a full heal every 10 minutes and the dragonmarks i left out 6 ap so you could decide what pre you would like be it kensai or one of the new pally ones.

I did a a +2 int tome but if you don't care about any umd don't bother eventually when +3 tomes drop you could get a +3 int tome and take combat expertise but ac with dt armor will be quite nice as is and the improved shield mastery really lets you soak up damage.

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Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(10 Fighter \ 6 Paladin) 
Hit Points: 280
Spell Points: 10 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 16
Will: 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             14                    20
Dexterity            14                    16
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             16                    18

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               2                     7
Bluff                 3                     4
Concentration         2                     2
Diplomacy             3                     4
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                     4
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  2                     5
Intimidate            7                    31
Jump                  2                     7
Listen               -1                     1
Move Silently         2                     5
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     1
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                n/a                   6
Use Magic Device      5                    13

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate


Level 4 (Paladin)


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 8 (Paladin)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Reflex)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate II
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate III
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV

**Oolung** · 12-01-2008, 11:08 PM

hey, the build is working rly well, so i thought id give you a challenge...I want to see a chuck norris monk...

**Lifespawn** · 12-02-2008, 04:24 AM

hmm so a high ac str monk that never dies and teaches other little monks how to harness their powers?

p.s and always gets the female elf in the "end"

**Oolung** · 12-02-2008, 10:24 PM

same as last time, 32 pointer no race preferance but dont have +2 tomes atm

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Thanks Lifespawn!

human 32 pt bard twf warchanter?

me again!

yep thats what im looking for

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