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That soundburst build is styling Unbongwah!
Ok, so I need a caster build that deals (high reaper level) dps for Damonzz. Got an idea for aasimar or aasimar scourge DC casting pure barb, con + wisdom based, ultimate completionist + tomes, using mass frog + visage + healing hands + wisdom to hit/dmg. Ideas on fleshing it out as THF vs. twf?
Thinking TWF with heavy warfare set is higher boss dps if we instant kill the trash.
Last edited by Tilomere; 08-23-2018 at 11:13 PM.
Why pure barb? Why not Scourge rgr 6 / cleric 14 (War domain)? Take your 14/5/1 toon and swap the FvS splash for an extra rgr lvl (don't need Div Will w/Falconry). Something like 17 Scourge (DotD) / 40 Tempest (tier-5s) / 27 Falconry (No Mercy etc.). That's "only" 4 extra racial APs, I'm sure you must have twice that by now. Mass Frog -> <Soundburst | Dire Charge> the survivors -> DoD + TC vs trash mobs.
EDIT: ah I see you want two AoE instakills - Visage of Terror + Mass Frog. Well VoT is CON-based while MF is WIS-based and I have a hard enough time get one DC stat high enough to be useful let alone two so good luck with that.
Last edited by unbongwah; 08-24-2018 at 10:00 AM.
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Ahh ... I got it figured out. It's gonna be epic. Two stat DC casting is easy. Especially when one of the stats is Con where you will bump it up anyways on any build. It's adding in damage on top where it gets tricksy hobbity.
But I have that figured out as well.
Last edited by Tilomere; 08-25-2018 at 02:47 AM.
The Genasi are planetouched humans with elemental affinities. We don't have Genasi in DDO, of course, but we do have Aasimar and druids get elemental forms, so consider this a "homebrew" Genasi.
The important part is requester wanted a druid 15 / monk 5 build using handwraps. They have Falconry and a +7 Supreme tome, so that lets us go all-in on a WIS-based build.
EDIT: tweaked build
Prey on the Weak, No Mercy, Sense Weakness, and Combat Brute should stack together for 15% + 30% + 30% + 50% = +125% helpless damage on top of the usual +50% helpless damage. This build gets Stunning Fist, Balanced Attacks (knockdown on vorpal), BoGW, and Dire Charge, all of which cause helplessness. As an added bonus, it also has Earthquake for extra CC and Mass Frog for lulz. Caster DPS isn't a significant contributor, but you can use Body of the Sun, Firewall, etc. as well; or the ice equivalents if you choose water elemental form.Code:Shintao Falconer Genasi 15/5 Druid/Monk Lawful Neutral Aasimar Level Order 1. Druid 6. Druid 11. Monk 16. Druid 2. Monk 7. Druid 12. Monk 17. Druid 3. Monk 8. Druid 13. Druid 18. Druid 4. Druid 9. Druid 14. Druid 19. Druid 5. Druid 10. Monk 15. Druid 20. Druid Stats 36pt Tome Level Up ---- ---- -------- Strength 8 +7 4: WIS Dexterity 12 +7 8: WIS Constitution 18 +7 12: WIS Intelligence 8 +7 16: WIS Wisdom 20 +7 20: WIS Charisma 8 +7 24: WIS 28: WIS Skills D M M D D D D D D M M M D D D D D D D D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Concent 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Heal 4 3 1 1 1 1 1 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23 Spellcr 4 2 2 2 1 1 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 23 Spot 1 1 4 2 1 1 1 1 1 3 16 UMD 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 11 Tumble 1 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ 12 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 6 6 Feats 1 : Quicken Spell 2 Monk : Stunning Fist 3 : Precision 3 Monk : Two Weapon Fighting 6 : Adept of Forms 9 : Maximize Spell 12 : Improved Critical: Bludgeoning 15 : Improved Two Weapon Fighting 18 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting 20 Swap : Spell Focus: Evocation replaces Maximize Spell 21 Epic : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic : Burst of Glacial Wrath 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 27 Epic : Master of Forms OR Epic Damage Reduction 28 Destiny: Mass Frog 29 Destiny: Dire Charge 30 Epic : Grandmaster of Forms OR Empower Healing Spell 30 Legend : Scion of: Astral Plane OR Plane of Air 1 Aasimar: Bond of the Fallen 10 Monk : Path of Harmonious Balance 4 Druid : Wild Shape 1: Wolf 7 Druid : Wild Shape 1: Bear 13 Druid : Wild Shape 2: Winter Wolf 16 Druid : Wild Shape 2: Dire Bear 18 Druid : Wild Shape 3: Fire Elemental OR Water Elemental Enhancements (80+12 AP) Shintao (34 AP)Falconry (28 AP)
- Bastion of Purity, Protection from Tainted Creatures
- Difficulty at the Beginning, Deft Strikes III
- Lifting the Veil, Smite Tainted Creature, Iron Skin III, Knock on the Sky, Conditioning III
- Restoring the Balance, Jade Strike, Dismissing Strike, Wisdom
- The Receptive Earth, Tomb of Jade, Instinctive Defense I, Wisdom
- Empty Hand Mastery, Violence Begets Violence
Aasimar (12 AP)
- Falcon, Wisdom
- Hunter's Knowledge, Out in Nature III
- Killer Instinct I, Diving Strike III, Sprint Boost I
- Killer Instinct II, Strike for the Eyes: Strike III, Conditioning
- Deadly Instinct III, No Mercy III, Coordinated Strike, Expose Weakness
Nature's Warrior (12 AP)
- Stronger Bonds, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds II, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds III
- Improved Recovery
- Divine Purpose
- Divine Charge II
Nature's Protector (6 AP)
- Natural Adept, Nature's Senses
- Extra Wild Empathy II, Beastial Nature II
- Flight I, Double Strike Boost III
- Prey on the Weak II
Destiny (24 AP) Legendary Dreadnought
- Nature's Protector, Nature's Defense
- Enchanted Defense III, Fey's Blessing I
Twists of Fate (35 fate points)
- Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III, Attack Boost I
- Damage Boost III
- Critical Damage III, Haste Boost III
- (none)
- Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
- Master's Blitz, Pulverizer
- Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
- Balanced Attacks (Tier 3 Primal)
- School Specialist: Evocation (Tier 2 Magister)
- Dance of Flowers (Tier 1 Flowers)
- Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)
Single-target CC (helpless): Stunning Fist, Salt Ray, Tomb of Jade, Hunting Bird attacks, Balanced Attacks (vorpal KD)
AoE CC (helpless): Coordinated Strike, BoGW, Dire Charge
AoE CC (no helpless): Sleet Storm, Earthquake
AoE "instakill": Mass Frog
The extra racial APs are optional; you can drop points from either Aasimar or Nature's Warrior.
Last edited by unbongwah; 08-30-2018 at 12:11 PM.
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Okay, below this section are the lyrics..... this build is one my wife wants to play so multiclassing woulod be okay I suppose.
She needs to have a constant fire shield
She needs to be relatively dark skinned
She needs to have extremely high social skills
Her main means of attacking needs to be through charmed minions.
Ideally she'd be equipped with a dagger that allows her to summon a Succubus (legendary greensteel)
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Hey, am looking for a possible build for a Pally life. Was thinking Dwarf Hammer/Pike & Board. Toon is Epic Completionist, has +6 Supreme Tome and access to Falconry if needed.
Past lives inc: 3xBard; 2xSorc & 1 each of FvS, Cleric, Fighter, Rogue, Druid, Barb, Ranger, Monk, Warlock , Wiz. 3 Iconic PL's BF, PDK & Deep Gnome once each.
Am Open to other suggestions, and am not married to my original concept but I have never run a heavy armour/shield build before. I am not a great fan of Melee Classes but they need doing!! Mainly run Solo or Duo, so survivability /DPS mix important.
Thanks In Advance
Hi, I used to play this game a long time ago, and a lot has changed. I never really got very far and right now I am playing with a few friends. I want to be a wizard and I really like the idea of being an eldritch knight. The pale master also seems really cool, is there any easy way to incorporate the two? Also, I don't really know what spells are good.
Hrmm... the Eldritch Knight tree is one of the weaker trees currently. It's doable (altho' more as a flavor build), but, generally speaking, not something that's strongly recommended.
Would a weapon-using Pale Master, but one that doesn't rely heavily on the EK tree, be acceptable? Also, how heavily would you be willing to dip out of Wizard to achieve this mix?
Without editing good/bad/indifferent/outdated, here are some links I've saved - HOWEVER, some are older, and some are simply inferior - others can tell you better which are still viable, and/or are salvageable w/ some updates.
o Gish https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5850691
& x3+ https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6052392
& https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5850691
& https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5935962
& https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5908841
o 1st Life GISH https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...r-First-Lifers
o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5829445
o Gishes https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6021260
& https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6061730
I would be fine using more of a weapon pale master with just a couple enhancements from eldritch knight since it isn't very good. I would be fine dipping out of wizard as long as it will still work well. I was also thinking of doing drow as the race, the extra intelligence should be good right? I like the idea of the wraith blade, what are the main differences between having 2 levels of rogue vs 2 levels of monk? I would also definitely like to get at least some splash of wizard in the first 4 levels or so rather than do something like six levels of fighter then 14 levels of wizard.
Last edited by Uberepic; 09-18-2018 at 05:15 PM.
I've never run a Gish (in DDO - D&D is a separate discussion ), so was hoping someone would either chime in w/ the Voice of Experience, or use those links to suggest a definitively modern build.
However, I do know the simple theory - and this is a key part:
When deciding how to go, remember that the deeper you splash from pure Wizard, the more your offensive DC's will suffer. So while Wiz 18 can make DC-dependent spells work (usually, ahem), Wiz 12 builds/etc. are relying far more on buffs (and possibly SLA's, which are usually char-level based) rather than blastem spells. Web is a waste of time if everyone walks right thru it.
There are some low-hanging EK choices that are nice - it's just that chasing the tree to Tier 5 (or even 4) is AP that could be better spent elsewhere.
Drow for +1 DC and access to cheap/additional* Armor ASF reduction, Human for +1 Feat and 2 AP HAMP enhancement. Dealer's choice.I was also thinking of doing drow as the race, the extra intelligence should be good right?
(* EK has some too.)
Rogue = Trapping, Monk = +2 ("Martial Arts") Feats. Both = +Evasion.I like the idea of the wraith blade, what are the main differences between having 2 levels of rogue vs 2 levels of monk?
o http://ddowiki.com/page/Martial_arts_feats
Also, Monk is not F2P, which is a dealbreaker for many.
Those are either 1) optimized for Level 20, or 2) a quick-and-dirty (read "lazy") spread of the classes. (Usually speading diff classes out helps Skills, but since the only thing Fighter can contribute is Jump - which you only need a few ranks in - or Intimidate or Swim - which, yeah - I don't think that matters here.)I would also definitely like to get at least some splash of wizard in the first 4 levels or so rather than do something like six levels of fighter then 14 levels of wizard.
The only reason to force-feed early Fighter is 1) to make BAB for a certain martial Feat, or 2) to grab higher-Tier Fighter enhancements asap. Without grinding the build level by level (read "lazy"), I'd think that grabbing some Wizard early shouldn't hurt, and things like Jump/Shield could help a lot.
Use a character planner to confirm that all the Feats still work, and you should be good to go:
o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5534437
Wizard gets 4 sources of AoE helpless to synergy with melee damage. Mass hold, color spray, burst of glacial wrath, and dire charge. In a modern build, only color spray arrives early enough to build around, and only dire charge has DCs high enough for all legendary content. Since color spray is only available by gnome racial SLA but is good enough until epics, modern builds entirely dump wizard.
Last edited by Tilomere; 09-19-2018 at 07:45 PM.
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Hi,
I was thinking about building Artificer using Renegade Mastermaker enhancements. The idea for this character is to be tanky, supportive, stunning unbreakable wall.
Since I do not have warforged race I was thinking about dwarf. Requirements for the build:
-Dwarven waraxe profiniency (I am not sure if I need a feat for that)
-Heavy armor user
-Int to damage (12 points in Harper tree - I guess that's reasonable)
I am not sure about feat choices (maybe single weapon fighting line? precision or power attack? dragonmark?) or enhancements worth taking from other trees. Maybe we can squeeze 20 points in dwarf for dwarf fortress and dwarven tactics?
My character has 6 past lives, all ability tomes +2.
Thanks for ideas!
Last edited by Hasacz; 09-24-2018 at 03:57 AM.
Hi all. I'd like to request a build for the character described above. I'd like max dps and max AC with a splash of rogue for disabling traps. I was thinking dwarf for +2 CON and their inherent good balance. If I'm not in a group, I'll always have a cleric hireling for healing, so maybe dps is more important to me than AC. I love THF so that's a must. WIS and CHA can be dump stats. I'm thinking to max STR and CON, with a mix of DEX for balance and INT for search and disable traps. Any suggestions gladly accepted. I tried searching the archives, but couldn't find a good match. Thanks!