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[unbongwah]

I Like the trap monkey/tempest ideas

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[Oeuoe]

Given the recent Fvs pass, i was wondering if an old favorite build of mine, Sole Survivor, could be almost reincarnated now? and how viable of a build it is through the levels.

[schroebj13]

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Thank you

[unbongwah]

Given the recent Fvs pass, i was wondering if an old favorite build of mine, Sole Survivor, could be almost reincarnated now? and how viable of a build it is through the levels.

We started discussing them in this thread. Warsoul got some welcome melee DPS buffs, particularly if you run with (e)SOS. The new Falconry tree opens some new synergies for WIS-based melee FvS builds too. Beacon of Hope is...honestly, I find it more than a little underwhelming, but if you want a healer-specced FvS, well, now you have a tree for it.

[unbongwah]

Build by request: WIS-based Aasimar AA ranger using the Falconry tree.

Falcon Archer
Ranger 20
True Neutral Aasimar


Stats
               36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength         8                4: WIS
Dexterity       16       +5       8: WIS
Constitution    16               12: WIS
Intelligence     8       +2      16: WIS
Wisdom          20               20: WIS
Charisma         8               24: WIS
                                 28: WIS

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Concent   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Heal      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spot      2  3     2     2     2     2     2     2     2     2     2  23
Spellcr   2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
UMD       2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
Perform            1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1   9
Search       1                                                         1
Tumble    1                                                            1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         20  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6


Feats

 1        : Point Blank Shot
 3        : Precision
 6        : Quicken Spell
 9        : Improved Critical: Ranged
12        : Empower Healing Spell
15        : Spell Focus: Enchantment
18        : Completionist OR Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
21 Epic   : Combat Archery
24 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Pierce Damage Reduction: Silver OR Epic Spell Power: Acid
27 Epic   : Blinding Speed OR Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Doubleshot
29 Destiny: Embodiment of Law OR Deific Warding
30 Epic   : Epic Reflexes OR Epic Damage Reduction
30 Legend : Scion of: Feywild OR Plane of Earth

 1 Aasimar: Bond of the Protector

 1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
 5 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant
10 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
15 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Construct
20 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Elemental OR Elf


Enhancements (80+12 AP)

Arcane Archer (42 AP)
Arcane Archer, Morphic Arrows, Metalline Arrows, Aligned Arrows, Shadow Arrows, Mystical Archer
Conjure Arrows, Energy of the Wild III, Corrosive Arrows
Force Arrows I, Elemental Damage
Terror Arrows, Soul Magic, Elemental Damage, Wisdom
Banishing Arrows, Paralyzing Arrows, Smiting Arrows, Elemental Damage, Wisdom
Moonbow, Arrow of Slaying, Final Strike, Elemental Damage, Runebow

Falconry (27 AP)
White Falcon, Wisdom, Well Rounded
Hunter's Knowledge, Out in Nature III
Killer Instinct I, Diving Shot III
Killer Instinct II, Strike for the Eyes: Shot III, Conditioning
Deadly Instinct II, No Mercy III, Coordinated Shot, Expose Weakness

Aasimar (12 AP)
Stronger Bonds, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds II, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds III
Improved Recovery
Divine Purpose
Improved Recovery

Deepwood Stalker (11 AP)
Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Sniper Shot
Favored Defense I, Stealthy III
Faster Sneaking I, Melee/Range Power Boost III


Destiny (24 AP)

Fury of the Wild
Primal Scream III, Fast Healing III, Constitution
Acute Instincts III, Constitution
(none)
Gird Against Demons II, Sense Weakness III
Fury Eternal
Unbridled Fury

Twists of Fate (36 fate points)
Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
Otto's Whistler (Tier 3 Shiradi)
Pin (Tier 2 Shiradi)
School Specialist: Enchantment (Tier 2 Magister)
Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)

Going heavy into Falconry tree doesn't leave a lot of APs left over for Deepwood Stalker. So the build philosophy here is to focus on burst DPS via FotW's Adrenaline and the various CC abilities: i.e., Paralyzing Arrows, Hunting Bird attacks, and the two Shiradi twists (Pin and Whistler). Perhaps you'll even get the DCs on Terror Arrows high enough for the instakill to proc reliably. The downside is I don't have the APs to spare for Killer + Advanced Sneak Attack, so overall ranged DPS takes a bit of a hit there; though hopefully No Mercy combined with all the helpless attacks at our disposal makes up for that (knock on wood).

The 12 racial APs are - shall we say - aspirational in nature. There's nothing you really need from the racial tree; Healing Hands, +2 WIS, and extra heal amp are definitely in the "nice to have but not essential" category, IMO.

It's unclear from the description whether Deadly Instinct applies to ranged attacks or Hunting Bird strikes; and I don't have Falconry yet to test it. If it turns out not to work, we can always drop it for another point of WIS or something.

[Captain_Wizbang]

Build by request: WIS-based Aasimar AA ranger using the Falconry tree.
[code]Falcon Archer
Ranger 20
True Neutral Aasimar

perfect, only 2 questions,

Enchantment vs Transmutation. It's not a biggie, doubt Id do it, but for snare & spike growth on Lamma I tested it maxed out and they both worked to a degree in epics. (reaper isnt in my vocab)

Secondly, alignment. Im so used to lawful good....... again it doesnt matter, just asking

[unbongwah]

Enchantment vs Transmutation. It's not a biggie, doubt Id do it, but for snare & spike growth on Lamma I tested it maxed out and they both worked to a degree in epics. (reaper isnt in my vocab)

I have literally never bothered using those spells because WIS-based ranger wasn't viable until now. Obviously I focused purely on Enchantment / Hunting Bird DCs; feel free to experiment with other DCs at your own risk.

Secondly, alignment. Im so used to lawful good....... again it doesnt matter, just asking

True Neutral is my default largely to avoid neg-leveling from evil-tainted or Anarchic / Axiomatic gear as well as to avoid alignment-based damage like Unholy. [In the good old days, it was also for Stability items back when they were actually relevant.] Otherwise it doesn't really matter unless alignment restrictions are a concern.

[Captain_Wizbang]

feel free to experiment with other DCs at your own risk.

Exactly.


My comment about alignment is due to the massive amount of LG gear the TR toon has. Like most, proverbial packrat

[unbongwah]

Interestingly enough, Killer Instinct does allow Wisdom to hit/damage with shields. However, using Wisdom as a damage/hit stat isn't all that useful for Bards.

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED

Scourge Falconer Skirmisher
15/3/2 Bard/Fighter/Rogue
True Neutral Aasimar Scourge


Level Order

1. Rogue           6. Bard           11. Fighter        16. Rogue
2. Bard            7. Bard           12. Fighter        17. Bard
3. Bard            8. Bard           13. Bard           18. Bard
4. Bard            9. Bard           14. Bard           19. Bard
5. Bard           10. Fighter        15. Bard           20. Bard


Stats
               36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength        10       +4       4: WIS
Dexterity       10       +4       8: WIS
Constitution    16       +4      12: WIS
Intelligence    14       +4      16: WIS
Wisdom          20       +4      20: WIS
Charisma         8       +4      24: WIS
                                 28: WIS

Feats

 1        : Single Weapon Fighting
 3        : Power Attack
 6        : Cleave
 9        : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
10 Fighter: Great Cleave
11 Fighter: Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
12        : Precision OR Quicken Spell
15        : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
18        : Shield Mastery
21 Epic   : Improved Shield Mastery
24 Epic   : Inspire Excellence
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction OR Quicken Spell
28 Destiny: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting OR First Blood
29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Deific Warding
30 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea


Enhancements (80+2 AP)

Falconry (41 AP)
White Falcon, Wisdom, Well Rounded, Wisdom, Well Rounded II, Master Falconer
Hunter's Knowledge, Out in Nature III
Killer Instinct I, Diving Strike III
Killer Instinct II, Strike for the Eyes: Strike III, Conditioning
Deadly Instinct III, No Mercy III, Coordinated Strike, Expose Weakness
Dangerous, Death from Above: Strike III, Thrill of the Hunt: Strike III, Mark the Prey: Strike

Aasimar Scourge (17 AP)
Stronger Bonds, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds II, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds III
Scourge Weapons, Improved Recovery
Improved Scourge Weapons, Divine Purpose
Greater Scourge Weapons, Improved Recovery
Destroyer of the Dead

Stalwart Defender (13 AP)
Toughness, Stalwart Defense
Item Defense I, Durable Defense III
Resilient Defense III, Instinctive Defense I
Tenacious Defense III

Swashbuckler (11 AP)
Confidence, Swashbuckling
Blow By Blow: Melee III, Tavern Shanties I
Fast Movement, Double Strike Boost I
Skirmisher


Destiny (24 AP)

Legendary Dreadnought
Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III
Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack
Lay Waste, Haste Boost III
(none)
Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz, Pulverizer

Twists of Fate (35 fate points)
Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
Legendary Shield Mastery (Tier 2 Sentinel)
Hail of Blows (Tier 2 Flowers)

Features:

• Full Falconry tree on WIS-based Scourge Aasimar (requires LR +1)
• Uses light maces which become 14-18/x4 19-20/x6 weapons in Dreadnought. [Skullsmasher is 14-18/x5 19-20/x7 but unfortunately can't be Sentiented; drow light mace is 12-18/x4 19-20/x6 and should be Sentient-compatible.]
• Most bardsongs including Inspire Heroics + Excellence for party buffage. [Bard 12 / ftr 6 / rog 2 would have extra feats but lose Heroics+Excellence.]
• Usual survivability perks from Stalwart Defender (i.e., +25 PRR/MRR and +20% HPs)
• one instakill (Death from Above), two AoE stuns (Dire Charge + Coordinated Strike), and two single-target stuns (Diving Attack + Strike for the Eyes), all based on WIS

This build is an attempt to address one of the dilemmas of Falconry builds; namely if you want to use Death from Above, you're pretty much "locked" into taking the capstone as well, because without the cooldown reset chance, DfA can't be used often enough to really be useful. So the trick is to find builds which get the rest of their DPS from other sources than tier-5 and/or capstone abilities. Scourge Swashbuckler using light maces get 15-18/x4 19-20/x5 critical threat range from Swashbuckling stance + IC:Blunt feat + Destroyer of the Dead + Overwhelming Crit; other crit bonuses come from LD (i.e., Pulverizer + Devastating Crit).

Ironically, I don't have the feat nor APs to spare to invest into more shield-bashing, which was actually the original impetus to making this build. Oh well, just bang out more racial PLs, how hard can that be?

[unbongwah]

Responding to a PM here because the person's Inbox is full:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...arper-Mechanic
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...-mechanic-xbow

Great xbow Mechanic builds basically all look the same, since once you have all the essential ranged feats, there's really not much room with what's left. Plus you definitely want tier-5 Mechanic + Expert Builder, which pretty much locks you into at least rogue 18. About the only practical splashes are (A) Artificer or fighter for extra feats (arty 2 also lets you equip a Runearm) or maybe (B) barbarian for the extra +10% runspeed (even if you're not a zerger, kiting is a useful life skill). If you have a +7 DEX tome you can start with base DEX 14 and still hit 21 for your epic feats (Combat Archery + Epic Sneak Attack).

[Elindel22]

Build by request: WIS-based Aasimar AA ranger using the Falconry tree.

Falcon Archer
Ranger 20
True Neutral Aasimar


Stats
               36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength         8                4: WIS
Dexterity       16       +5       8: WIS
Constitution    16               12: WIS
Intelligence     8       +2      16: WIS
Wisdom          20               20: WIS
Charisma         8               24: WIS
                                 28: WIS

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Concent   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Heal      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spot      2  3     2     2     2     2     2     2     2     2     2  23
Spellcr   2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
UMD       2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
Perform            1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1   9
Search       1                                                         1
Tumble    1                                                            1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         20  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6


Feats

 1        : Point Blank Shot
 3        : Precision
 6        : Quicken Spell
 9        : Improved Critical: Ranged
12        : Empower Healing Spell
15        : Spell Focus: Enchantment
18        : Completionist OR Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
21 Epic   : Combat Archery
24 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Pierce Damage Reduction: Silver OR Epic Spell Power: Acid
27 Epic   : Blinding Speed OR Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Doubleshot
29 Destiny: Embodiment of Law OR Deific Warding
30 Epic   : Epic Reflexes OR Epic Damage Reduction
30 Legend : Scion of: Feywild OR Plane of Earth

 1 Aasimar: Bond of the Protector

 1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
 5 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant
10 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
15 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Construct
20 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Elemental OR Elf


Enhancements (80+12 AP)

Arcane Archer (42 AP)
Arcane Archer, Morphic Arrows, Metalline Arrows, Aligned Arrows, Shadow Arrows, Mystical Archer
Conjure Arrows, Energy of the Wild III, Corrosive Arrows
Force Arrows I, Elemental Damage
Terror Arrows, Soul Magic, Elemental Damage, Wisdom
Banishing Arrows, Paralyzing Arrows, Smiting Arrows, Elemental Damage, Wisdom
Moonbow, Arrow of Slaying, Final Strike, Elemental Damage, Runebow

Falconry (27 AP)
White Falcon, Wisdom, Well Rounded
Hunter's Knowledge, Out in Nature III
Killer Instinct I, Diving Shot III
Killer Instinct II, Strike for the Eyes: Shot III, Conditioning
Deadly Instinct II, No Mercy III, Coordinated Shot, Expose Weakness

Aasimar (12 AP)
Stronger Bonds, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds II, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds III
Improved Recovery
Divine Purpose
Improved Recovery

Deepwood Stalker (11 AP)
Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Sniper Shot
Favored Defense I, Stealthy III
Faster Sneaking I, Melee/Range Power Boost III


Destiny (24 AP)

Fury of the Wild
Primal Scream III, Fast Healing III, Constitution
Acute Instincts III, Constitution
(none)
Gird Against Demons II, Sense Weakness III
Fury Eternal
Unbridled Fury

Twists of Fate (36 fate points)
Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
Otto's Whistler (Tier 3 Shiradi)
Pin (Tier 2 Shiradi)
School Specialist: Enchantment (Tier 2 Magister)
Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)

Going heavy into Falconry tree doesn't leave a lot of APs left over for Deepwood Stalker. So the build philosophy here is to focus on burst DPS via FotW's Adrenaline and the various CC abilities: i.e., Paralyzing Arrows, Hunting Bird attacks, and the two Shiradi twists (Pin and Whistler). Perhaps you'll even get the DCs on Terror Arrows high enough for the instakill to proc reliably. The downside is I don't have the APs to spare for Killer + Advanced Sneak Attack, so overall ranged DPS takes a bit of a hit there; though hopefully No Mercy combined with all the helpless attacks at our disposal makes up for that (knock on wood).

The 12 racial APs are - shall we say - aspirational in nature. There's nothing you really need from the racial tree; Healing Hands and extra heal amp are definitely in the "nice to have but not essential" category, IMO.

It's unclear from the description whether Deadly Instinct applies to ranged attacks or Hunting Bird strikes; and I don't have Falconry yet to test it. If it turns out not to work, we can always drop it for another point of WIS or something.

Hello unbogwah,

A few questions on that build.

First off, why twist ottos whistler if you are going to get a good DC for paralyzing arrow ?

It is my understanding that ottos and paralyzing work on same mobs, and do not work on the same mobs.

Same question on falconry CC abilities you are taking. Why bother taking those falconry CCs with paralyzing arrow ? Once again, it is my understanding that paralyze and blind and trip work on the exact same mobs.

Also,why only 1 point in force arrows ? Don’t you use force as a backup to acid for acid immune mobs and for incorporeal mobs ?

And how high a DC do you need for the instakill to work on terror arrows ? Have any idea ?

And a last question for my curiosity, why take perform ?

Thanks

[unbongwah]

First off, why twist ottos whistler if you are going to get a good DC for paralyzing arrow ?

Because extra CC is never a bad thing?

It is my understanding that ottos and paralyzing work on same mobs, and do not work on the same mobs.

Correct, but Whistler has no save.

Why bother taking those falconry CCs with paralyzing arrow ?

Hunting Bird attacks cause helplessness; Paralyzing does not. Thus the bird boosts your DPS as well as CCing mobs. No Mercy and Sense Weakness stack for an extra +60% damage to helpless mobs in addition to the usual +50%. So use your bird, then follow up with Adrenaline + <Slaying Arrow | Sniper Shot>.

Also,why only 1 point in force arrows ? Don’t you use force as a backup to acid for acid immune mobs and for incorporeal mobs ?

It was either +2 WIS or two more ranks of Force Arrows; I chose the former.

And a last question for my curiosity, why take perform ?

Boosts Sonic spellpower to go with Feywild feat; it was either that or Search.

[supps2]

OK, how about an old school thf bladeforged FvS. What do you think? I have completionist, 1 racial point , some epic past lifes but not many and +7 tomes. I don't have the new tree but am willing to get it. Not sure if anymore info is needed. Thanks in advance.

[unbongwah]

OK, how about an old school thf bladeforged FvS.

I just posted a WF FvS 20 THF build using Falconry. Converting to BF is easy enough: you can either LR +1 into pure FvS or do FvS 18 / pal 2; the Warsoul capstone is still kinda weaksauce, IMO, so losing it is no big deal. You could do a deeper MC, but dropping FvS 18 means losing Haste and +1 crit range bonus from lvl 18 Warsoul core enhancement.

If you don't have Falconry, you can shift those APs into either AoV or Beacon of Hope. You also have the option of going for a conventional STR+CHA build using Divine Might if you're not building for caster / Falconry DCs.

[Drelak]

It is time for me to TR after two swashbuckler lives. I was thinking about FVS Vistani, but I don't have Falconry.
+3 tomes except +5 to INT. I have all races except iconic gnome. I hope for good DPS, and tend to solo a lot.

[Garthog77]

Looking for a bladeforged build that keeps at least 1 level of paladin with main class as arti, since I have all my paladin past lives, but need some arti lives. Don't want to use a lesser heart to get rid of paladin, so any builds out there that incorporate those criteria? Otherwise any pitfalls I should know about? Mainly wondering if there are any abilities that arti has that would be hurt from wearing heavy armor if I was to try doing a tanky type build.

[unbongwah]

Looking for a bladeforged build that keeps at least 1 level of paladin with main class as arti, since I have all my paladin past lives, but need some arti lives.

The most obvious idea which occurs to me: take slarden's Reaper build and convert it to BF arty 12 / ftr 6 / pal 2. Rather than Evasion, you build around Adamantine Body + Stalwart Defender + RMM. Could go melee or ranged; melee version can go either SWF+Runearm or THF depending on which tier-5 you're aiming for (BE or Kensei).

Mainly wondering if there are any abilities that arti has that would be hurt from wearing heavy armor if I was to try doing a tanky type build.

If anything it's the opposite; Renegade Mastermaker is biased in favor of medium / heavy armor and Adamantine Body.

[Drelak]

Since my last request did not inspire anyone and I am in hurry to TR, lets try something else:
I did not find any detailed gnome build either here or on the discord.
How about gnome artificer? 36 points, +5 Int tome, +3 others, not much past lives, mainly solo.

[unbongwah]

How about gnome artificer?

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...used-artificer
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...elee-Artificer
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...k-Reaper-Build

Any of them should be fine as gnome.

[gringofoot]

Hello,

I have not run a Pale Master in a while. I have triple completionist on Heroic and Iconic. I am currently running Racial + Epic TR's, lvl 1-30, eTr, rTR...lather, rinse, repeat.

Most PM guides I've found are current up to U28 or so. I've used those guides and was happy with them, but I'd like to see what else I might do.

3x all Heroic class Past Lives
3x all Iconic Past Lives
2x Elf Racial Past lives
2x Primal Epic Past Lives
+7 Stat tome
+3 or better on Skill tomes
All sorts of named gear with set bonuses from lvl 8+

I'm not hanging out at lvl 30 when I cap. Just doing immediate eTR+rTR.

Playing style: I love walking into a room and freezing the whole mob with Hold Monster and/or Otto's. Rest of party can bang away at them and I can Finger of Death or Wail. I can do melee in lower levels, but above level 7 I prefer to be castin'.

Thanks!