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    hello, Posted a cleric build on the cleric forums. It should be enough to get an idea of what I am trying to do. I would appreciate it if you could take a look at it, make suggestions, rip it to shreds whatever. I tend do solo a lot, slayers ect ect when no groups are available so I am just looking for a simple, character that is somewhat self sustaining but also melee.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellibean2 View Post
    all I know is that Pally Dil is a strong choice for H-Elf FvS.
    Actually, it's a terrible choice, because AFAIK it's still bugged and not providing full bonus to saves like it should. But even if it did work right, spending 17 APs for a mere +5 to saves is a terrible ROI. I'd play a CON-based dwarf healer before I ever bothered with HE pally feat; at least the dwarf racial bonus (+3 to saves) is only 3 APs (presuming you're going heavy into dwarf in the first place).

    Anyway, normally I would say make a WIS-based Evoker build which makes a strong healer as well; except I don't have any experience with first-life casters in Reaper, so I've no idea how well they do in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Actually, it's a terrible choice, because AFAIK it's still bugged and not providing full bonus to saves like it should. But even if it did work right, spending 17 APs for a mere +5 to saves is a terrible ROI. I'd play a CON-based dwarf healer before I ever bothered with HE pally feat; at least the dwarf racial bonus (+3 to saves) is only 3 APs (presuming you're going heavy into dwarf in the first place).

    Anyway, normally I would say make a WIS-based Evoker build which makes a strong healer as well; except I don't have any experience with first-life casters in Reaper, so I've no idea how well they do in there.
    Okay, thanks for the reply, I've seen some Dwarf clerics knocking about, So i'll likely run one of them instead.

    Thanks

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    Default Sun Elf Warlock

    I need a Sun Elf warlock build to get through 3 iconic TR's. I just want the Sun Elf Past life feats. I will be keeping the Cleric starter class for sun elf and going mostly with Warlock since that is how I am equipped. I am not interested in jumping through hoops to get rid of the cleric class or anything weird, just straight up cleric/warlock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snook59 View Post
    I need a Sun Elf warlock build to get through 3 iconic TR's. I just want the Sun Elf Past life feats. I will be keeping the Cleric starter class for sun elf and going mostly with Warlock since that is how I am equipped. I am not interested in jumping through hoops to get rid of the cleric class or anything weird, just straight up cleric/warlock.

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    Go 6 Warlock, 3 paladin, 11 Cleric for the heal spell.
    Max Con, rest into Cha and Int. All level ups in Con.
    Skills: Spellcraft, Perform, Umd
    Feats: Maximize, Empower, Quicken and whatever. (I like shield mastery and improved shield mastery or the +1% crit chance sp ones depending on dps or survivability.)
    Enchantments. ES up to tier 5. Pally for the extra 20% hp and defences, TS for utterdark blast and strong pacts, cleric ones for more light spellpower.
    You will be very survivable, your dps will be low but AOE.
    Epic destinies: Exalted angel or Unyielding sentinel or Shiradi Champion.

    Hope that helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by contantinos1990 View Post
    Go 6 Warlock, 3 paladin, 11 Cleric for the heal spell.
    Max Con, rest into Cha and Int. All level ups in Con.
    Skills: Spellcraft, Perform, Umd
    Feats: Maximize, Empower, Quicken and whatever. (I like shield mastery and improved shield mastery or the +1% crit chance sp ones depending on dps or survivability.)
    Enchantments. ES up to tier 5. Pally for the extra 20% hp and defences, TS for utterdark blast and strong pacts, cleric ones for more light spellpower.
    You will be very survivable, your dps will be low but AOE.
    Epic destinies: Exalted angel or Unyielding sentinel or Shiradi Champion.

    Hope that helps!
    Wow that was a fast response, thank you very much.

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    Dear builders!

    Please can you create me a build that will:

    have at least 2 rog, 2rng and 2 monk levels, and will take all enhancements related to sneaking faster!
    Full trapping and sneaking skills
    Decent self sufficiency
    Has imp evasion preferably though can drop this if it means massive improvements in dps or something

    I have:
    36 Point spend
    Completionist
    Most gear that would be needed
    +6 tomes for stats
    +5skill tomes for most useful skills, except +2 to umd
    All classes/races/harper tree (Dont want to use iconic for this though)


    Dont mind if its ranged or melee, but it will be doing 1-30 so would like to be viable throughout heroic and epic levelling.

    Many Thanks!

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    Default epic destiny help

    my thing is I like the warlock but want to be in the shiraidi epic destiny. this requires one of the three classes
    must have at least six levels of
    1. druid
    2.ranger
    or 3.bard
    I was thinking of a split like 12/6/2 and I want to play my warlock class,just don't have time to level threw all those epic destiny just to get to shiradi .
    I would like to start there.Any help would be great as I cant seem to get it right.

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    Default bard swash mix

    id really appreciate it if someone could help me make a bard DPS swashbuckler with barbarian splashed to get some dodge / rage, etc.

    i have 28 point build. if someone could draw up something maybe to level 20 that would be awesome! ive been looking for a build for a while but i havent found something quite to my liking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraliaf View Post
    id really appreciate it if someone could help me make a bard DPS swashbuckler with barbarian splashed to get some dodge / rage, etc.
    First off, remember that Precision and barb Rage don't play nice together, so you'll be building around Power Attack instead. But Swashbuckling still restricts you to light armor, so a rogue splash for Evasion still makes sense.

    Also note that if you plan to use T5 Ravager, Crit Rage will only stack with Swashbuckling if you use rapiers or kukris. I usually go with rapiers, since there are a lot more named options and Balizarde is still pretty nice for mid-epics.

    If you have Harper, you can even go INT-based, as odd as that sounds on a barb.
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    Default Utility build

    Can someone point me to a build that plays very similarly to the exploiter build of old times. The 18 ranger / 1 monk / 1 rogue. That could do just about anything.

    Is there a new utility build like this that can push the limits of the game on a 36 point build while also being an updated version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    First off, remember that Precision and barb Rage don't play nice together, so you'll be building around Power Attack instead. But Swashbuckling still restricts you to light armor, so a rogue splash for Evasion still makes sense.

    Also note that if you plan to use T5 Ravager, Crit Rage will only stack with Swashbuckling if you use rapiers or kukris. I usually go with rapiers, since there are a lot more named options and Balizarde is still pretty nice for mid-epics.

    If you have Harper, you can even go INT-based, as odd as that sounds on a barb.
    do you think that the advantages of rolling a rogue splash bard for evasion would have better dps and combat output than any sort of barb bard variant?

    could you help me make a 28 pt human build showing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedi View Post
    Can someone point me to a build that plays very similarly to the exploiter build of old times. The 18 ranger / 1 monk / 1 rogue. That could do just about anything.
    Is there some reason not to stick with Tempest Trapmonkey?
    Quote Originally Posted by Iraliaf View Post
    do you think that the advantages of rolling a rogue splash bard for evasion would have better dps and combat output than any sort of barb bard variant?
    Are you looking for a max melee DPS build; or are you looking for a melee build which makes the most of bard + barb classes? The two goals are not necessarily the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Is there some reason not to stick with Tempest Trapmonkey?

    Are you looking for a max melee DPS build; or are you looking for a melee build which makes the most of bard + barb classes? The two goals are not necessarily the same thing.
    thanks for the prompt response.

    i'll just quickly outline what it is, exactly, that i want:

    1) must be a bard and have decent abilities to buff teammates, debuff enemies, heal self/team, etc
    -this means i dont want a 13/6/1 fighter/rogue/bard or something like that

    2) must be an agile swashbuckler or potentially spellsword/warchant (but preferably without a shield, unless i could somehow increase dps). i don't care whether the weapon is a sword, rapier, or whatever

    3) must be able to pop into a pile of mobs and single out a few targets, emitting massive dps with said sword
    -cleave may be nice
    -some sort of evade/dodge ability needed

    4) must rely on a 28 point build

    i heard about a cool pale master bard build that accomplished many of these tasks. what do you think, based off this information?

    even though i have played for many years, i still need some help designing the character with the character planner, if you are capable of doing that. thanks in advance!
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    Default Second life: FvS with blood flavor. some help please?

    Hi everyone,

    I'd like some help with an idea I have, but for which I dont have any idea how to build it.

    I'd like to try TR'ing my first life wizard into a pure FvS with melee focus, based on TWF with daggers (deity is Blood of Vol)

    Anyone have any ideas how (or if) it can be done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraliaf View Post
    1) must be a bard and have decent abilities to buff teammates, debuff enemies, heal self/team, etc
    -this means i dont want a 13/6/1 fighter/rogue/bard or something like that

    2) must be an agile swashbuckler or potentially spellsword/warchant (but preferably without a shield, unless i could somehow increase dps). i don't care whether the weapon is a sword, rapier, or whatever

    3) must be able to pop into a pile of mobs and single out a few targets, emitting massive dps with said sword
    -cleave may be nice
    -some sort of evade/dodge ability needed
    TBH, most Swashbuckler builds are going to have all of these to a greater or lesser extent:
    • Any bard can CC mobs via Fascinate. A CC specialist will go heavy into Spellsinger too, though this can leave you AP-, stat- and/or feat-constrained if you also want melee DPS.
    • Any bard has at least some buffing potential via Inspire Courage and other songs. But the "true" buffbards will want at least 15 bard levels, IMO, to get Inspire Heroics, which also enables them to take Inspire Excellence.
    • Any decent Swashbuckler build will have good melee DPS, but the fighter buffs last year opened up some interesting Swashbuckler / Kensei options using handaxes or light picks, the only weapon types for which the crit bonuses from Swashbuckling and Strike w/No Thought (SwNT) will stack. Light picks become 17-20/x5 while handaxes become 15-20/x4 (x5 if you equip AotUB ) with the relevant Improved Crit feat; and that's before you add epic crit bonuses like Overwhelming Crit et al.


    Unfortunately, Inspire Heroics / Excellence req's bard 15 while SwNT req's ftr 6; which means you can't have both. So the first thing you have to do is decide if melee DPS or full party buffs is more important to you.

    Bard 15 / ftr 3 / rog 2 is probably the most common MC split for Swashbucklers; here's one (somewhat obsolete) example: Shadow Bard. There are also multiple builds based on rog 2 / ftr 6-8 / bard 10-12 to take advantage of SwNT (and possibly tier-5 Kensei): sample build.

    There are also freeze-specced Warchanter builds, with or without Swashbuckler involved. These builds work best as PDK due to the DC bonus from Cormyrian Knight Training. Couple of examples: Icebreaker (see the last page or two), White Dragon.

    TBH, TWF / THF bards lag behind Swashbuckler DPS, but there are a few holdouts; see my Axesinger thread.
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    Default Request: Simplest build possible

    I have been getting a new friend to try to play the game. However, after 4 months, they still do not understand that they do not have to click a hotbar item to damage the enemy. (I think this comes from many years of playing "League of Legends.")

    I want a character for them to play that has as few "clickies" as possible. I want them to be able to play the way a barbarian *used* to play, where they might use one thing before combat (like Rage), but they don't have to cycle through literally anything.

    I am thinking a fighter might be the way to go, but I am not sure. Thanks in advance, if this is even possible nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeccaBop View Post
    I want a character for them to play that has as few "clickies" as possible. I want them to be able to play the way a barbarian *used* to play, where they might use one thing before combat (like Rage), but they don't have to cycle through literally anything.
    Define "few" - One? Three? Ten? Are we talking "Xbox controller" simple or "Atari 2600 joystick" simple?

    I actually think ranged toons are simpler than melee toons for newbies to play, particularly if duoing with a buddy who's willing to handle heals. [Or if they get good at avoiding damage thru kiting, of course.] A pure AA ranger or Mechanic is fairly straight-forward, IMO.
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    As few as possible. If it's possible to do with 1, then 1.
    If 2, then 2. And so on.

    Combat up to this point has been:
    They rush into melee range.
    Once within melee range, sprint boost.
    Swap weapons furiously.
    Accidentally click the mouse button, actually swinging the sword for the first time.
    More weapon swaps.
    Equipment swaps.
    Rage, because the first one ran out.
    Accidentally click on the "shards" button on the XP bar, bringing up the prompt to buy more astral shards.

    And so on.

    Atari 2600-simplicity would be optimal. But I know that that level of simplicity may simply not be possible, and the character still be decent. (Like, you *could* be a wizard that just never casts spells. You'd be terrible, but you could do it.)

    I know they really love diving into the fray, so if we could keep it melee, that'd be best.
    I intend to be their dedicated healbot until they figure out how to actually play.
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    Default 12/8 Kensai/Shintao PDK Unarmed build needed

    This build will be used to get my 3 Fighter and PDK PLs. I came back to the game after a 5-6 year hiatus (forgot my old login info and which email it was on so I started a new account) about two months ago. I am thoroughly enjoying the game again and my Character (20 Monk X epic) already has 3 Divine PLs (Brace). My biggest issue is that I want to get some of my iconic and heroic past lives, but my end goal is still going to be a 20 Monk, and I'd like to reuse as much of my gear as possible since some of it is at least passable.

    Can a Kensai/Shintao build work to help me attain my 3 fighter and PDK PLs? It doesn't have to be 12/8, it does need to qualify for heroic fighter PLs. Any and all help appreciated!

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