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[Sal'vation]

Looking to do my next TR as a Warlock (at least 16 lvl) melee who can handle EH and EE solo. I have no raid gear but loaded up on most items from non-raid missions.

I have past lives of; wiz x 2, soc x 2, fvs x 2, and monk. Also have used +5 tomes on all stats.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[pazzerello89]

Hi all. I want start a new pg paladin build 32p no tome, thf. I never play a paladin so can you link me a easy and funny build, pure or mix with other class... I need to do 3 life fast.

I hope that someone can help me ^^

[walkin_dude]

I'm thinking of doing a fvs build for my guy on khyber.

tomes are:
str +3
dex +5
con +3
int +3
wis +3
cha +2

pls are 1 rogue, 1 fighter

his recent fighter life, he's been a swashbuckling fighter with rogue skills. First life was as a mechanic. So his accumulated gear is a lot of light armors, repeaters, and finesse weapons. one idea i'm tossing around is elf 17 fvs/3 paladin. Can use the rapiers and short swords pretty well, go with heavy armor, displacement clickie.

anyway, I figured I'd see if unbongwah or one of those pros has any suggestions.

[unbongwah]

Hi all. I want start a new pg paladin build 32p no tome, thf. I never play a paladin so can you link me a easy and funny build, pure or mix with other class... I need to do 3 life fast.

Pure pallies are pretty straight-forward; you can see my drow paladin and Sacred Vanguards threads. Adjusting them for THF KotC is easy enough. The only question mark is whether or not you MC; for HTR farming, I'd vote to stick with pure pally to get Zeal+HS ASAP, unless you have specific goals for splashing (e.g., trap skills, extra feats for Manyshot, etc.).

Here's an idea I had for a HO paladin. The (admittedly minor) advantage to HO w/DM of Finding over human is Lock Bash makes your OL DC based on Intim skill rather than CHA. Plus let's face it: not a lot of builds can actually spare the APs to invest in HO tree.

Uses a +3 Supreme tome, but honestly the only thing that affects is skill pts, so adapt as you see fit.

HOrcadin
Paladin 20
Lawful Good Half-Orc


Stats
               32pt     34pt     36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     ----     ----     --------
Strength        19       19       19       +3       4: STR
Dexterity        8        8        8       +3       8: STR
Constitution    14       15       16       +3      12: STR
Intelligence     9        9        9       +3      16: STR
Wisdom           8        8        8       +3      20: STR
Charisma        14       14       14       +3      24: STR
                                                   28: STR

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Intim        1     2     2     2     2  1  3  1  3  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
UMD       2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
Heal                                                               2   2
Balance                                                      1         1
Tumble                                                 1               1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
          4  1  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3


Feats

 1        : Power Attack
 1 Deity  : Follower of: Sovereign Host
 3        : Two Handed Fighting
 6        : Least Dragonmark: Finding
 6 Deity  : Unyielding Sovereignty
 9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
12        : Improved Two Handed Fighting
15        : Greater Two Handed Fighting
18        : Empower Healing Spell
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic   : Quicken Spell
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic   : Stunning Blow
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Enhancements (80 AP)

Half-Orc (18 AP)

Orcish Fury
Tharashk Dragonmark Focus II, Mighty Sundering I, Orcish Weapon Training
Lesser Dragonmark of Finding, Lock Bash, Orcish Weapon Training
Improved Power Attack I, Orcish Weapon Training
Brutality, Orcish Weapon Training

Knight of the Chalice (41 AP)

Slayer of Evil, Courage of Heaven, Slayer of Evil II, Improved Courage of Heaven, Slayer of Evil III, Champion of Good
Extra Turning II, Extra Remove Disease II
Divine Might III, Exalted Cleave III, Melee Power Boost III
Divine Sacrifice I, Vigor of Life, Exalted Smite I
Censure Demons, Passion I, Vigor of Life, Empowered Smite
Censure Outsiders, Vigor of Life, Avenging Cleave III, Sealed Life

Sacred Defender (21 AP)

Holy Bastion, Sacred Defense
Extra Lay On Hands III, Resilient Defense III
Bulwark Aura III, Durable Defense III
Resistance Aura III, Strong Defense III
Swift Defense

EDIT: I delay DM of Finding to lvl 6 so if you decide to swap it out later, you can put one of your metamagics there instead.

[unbongwah]

his recent fighter life, he's been a swashbuckling fighter with rogue skills. First life was as a mechanic. So his accumulated gear is a lot of light armors, repeaters, and finesse weapons. one idea i'm tossing around is elf 17 fvs/3 paladin. Can use the rapiers and short swords pretty well, go with heavy armor, displacement clickie.

Forum search function is still borked; but if you go back a few pages, I think I posted both FvS 17 / bard 3 and FvS 12 / bard 5 / ftr 3 Swashbuckler builds. Also see Arlathen's build.

[walkin_dude]

Forum search function is still borked; but if you go back a few pages, I think I posted both FvS 17 / bard 3 and FvS 12 / bard 5 / ftr 3 Swashbuckler builds. Also see Arlathen's build.

Thanks. I found the one with 5 bard/3 fighter, but I couldn't find the 17 fvs one after going back about 20 pages.

Stupid search function. (or lack of one, i mean)

[Plix_O'rix]

This is, for many reasons, the ultimate build in DDO.

Would love a breakdown of Tilomere's tree build "supreme cleavage" or a similar interpretation

[Plix_O'rix]

Awesome thanks,

And level ups into Con? I assume cha/wisdom are dump stats in favor of pre-reqs and as much Con/Str as one can muster?

Would you be able to go over skills and spell choices for the lock portion?

4 Fighter> 3 Barb > 13 Warlock

Alignment: non-lawful for barbarian, non-good for Fiend pact

Feats
1 PA Fighter Bastard Sword Prof. PDK Cleave (Strenght 13)
2 Fighter Dodge (Dex 13)
3 Combat Expertise (Int 13, tomes +1)
4 Fighter Great Cleave
6 Mobility
9 Spring Attack
12 Whirlwind Attack
15 TWF (Dex 15, tomes +4)
18 ITWF (Dex 17, tomes +4)
21 GTWF
24 IC:B
26 PTWF
27 OC
28 GA

Stat Requirements: 13 Strength, Dex 17, Int 13

ED Primal Avatar, with Imp. Combat Expertise, Consecrate, Sacred Ground twists,

Bug1: Supreme Cleave uses base damage die of weapon equipped while shape shifted. Workaround: use Twinblade Cost:
Lose summons from GS Ooze or damage from better weapons. Also costs a complete Tome of Legend.
Bug2: Aura's don't tick with timing as described. Workaround: use Core 6 but do not get core 12. Cost: some damage, Aura of Menace.
Bug3: Primal Avatar generates two spirit from spells max per three seconds and from eldritch blast aura. No workaround needed. Benefit: Don't need cleric levels
for divine healing or healing aura to generate spirit.

Notes: Level 15-19 using bastard sword Twinblade fighting 2handed with cleaves, or unarmed TWF with handwraps.
Cleaves with weapons only perform main hand weapon attacks (this is why THF rules supreme). Unarmed Gcleave, WW,
and Supreme Cleave have offhand attacks.
Some unarmed cleaves double strike.

[unbongwah]

I found the one with 5 bard/3 fighter, but I couldn't find the 17 fvs one after going back about 20 pages.

I can't find the bard 3 / FvS 17 build which I thought I posted here, but I did find an earlier version in another thread.

[Plix_O'rix]

On the 2d8 bastard sword issue-- would you say its worth taking a feat for the twinblade over just using a 2d8 mornlorde longsword? Do you get the DR beating alignment stuff from twinblade in forms? Also do you get a weapons crit profile in tree form or does it use a separate crit profile? Because a nice heavy pick might be brutal.

4 Fighter> 3 Barb > 13 Warlock

Alignment: non-lawful for barbarian, non-good for Fiend pact

Feats
1 PA Fighter Bastard Sword Prof. PDK Cleave (Strenght 13)
2 Fighter Dodge (Dex 13)
3 Combat Expertise (Int 13, tomes +1)
4 Fighter Great Cleave
6 Mobility
9 Spring Attack
12 Whirlwind Attack
15 TWF (Dex 15, tomes +4)
18 ITWF (Dex 17, tomes +4)
21 GTWF
24 IC:B
26 PTWF
27 OC
28 GA

Stat Requirements: 13 Strength, Dex 17, Int 13, lots of Con + level ups in Con. Decent Wisdom for will save. Decent strength for to-hit. Starting stats depend on point of build and tomes and personal preference, but I'd probably do something close to 14 14 17 13 14 8.

ED Primal Avatar, with Imp. Combat Expertise, Consecrate, Sacred Ground twists,

Bug1: Supreme Cleave uses base damage die of weapon equipped while shape shifted. Workaround: use Twinblade Cost:
Lose summons from GS Ooze or damage from better weapons. Also costs a complete Tome of Legend.
Bug2: Aura's don't tick with timing as described. Workaround: use Core 6 but do not get core 12. Cost: some damage, Aura of Menace, lose some spirit.
Bug3: Primal Avatar generates two spirit from spells max per three seconds and from eldritch blast aura. No workaround needed. Benefit: Don't need cleric levels
for divine healing or healing aura to generate spirit, gain some spirit.

Notes: Level 15-19 using bastard sword Twinblade fighting 2handed with cleaves, or unarmed TWF with handwraps.
Cleaves with weapons only perform main hand weapon attacks (this is why THF rules supreme). Unarmed Gcleave, WW,
and Supreme Cleave have offhand attacks.
Some unarmed cleaves double strike.

Spells: As per screenshot. Invis, True Seeing, DDoor, Tensors only spells from spell book, cast with twf weapon swap to reduce ASF.
Skills: Some balance, rest it doesn't matter. Warlock UMD is so high you don't really even need many points in UMD, although it makes heroics easier with faster access to heal scroll. Max haggle I guess. Maybe some spellcraft and spot (optional). Heal skill does not apply to divine healing (consecrate-sacred ground).

[Keriath]

Hey all returning player here and wanted some help with a former build.

So i used to run this build https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...-2Monk)/page21

Now with the changes to enhancements, and feats i am not even sure if its viable anymore. Would like if someone could point me to a similar build or update this one. Builds have never been my strong suit and being away from the game for several years has not helped that in the least.

[unbongwah]

Honestly, unless you need a ftr PL or something, I wouldn't bother with monk / kensei builds right now. A TWF+Manyshot barb or pally will out-DPS them and potentially out-survive them. See my drow paladin thread and Cetus's thread for pally & barb builds, respectively.

[Keriath]

Well he is sitting at 25 now already as a helf, so was trying to not have to do a TR on him. Was hoping there was a viable build for him but it doesn't look like it will be in his current incarnation.

[unbongwah]

Looking back now, I see Helves doesn't even take Gtr Weap Focus; that's a problem, because you need it to take Keen Edge + One w/Blade, without which you can't make a centered toon. So you could LR +0 to fix feats and respec. The problem is you'd still be behind the DPS curve compared to barb or pally.

Still, never say never: let's see what we can come up with for an LR +0 which sticks to the core concept - TWF w/hvy picks + Manyshot - and turns it into a centered toon.

Helves Angels Reborn
12/6/2 Fighter/Ranger/Monk
Lawful Neutral Half-Elf


Level Order

1. Ranger          6. Ranger         11. Fighter        16. Fighter
2. Ranger          7. Monk           12. Fighter        17. Fighter
3. Ranger          8. Monk           13. Fighter        18. Fighter
4. Ranger          9. Fighter        14. Fighter        19. Fighter
5. Ranger         10. Fighter        15. Fighter        20. Fighter


Stats
               34pt     36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     ----     --------
Strength        17       18       +2       4: STR
Dexterity       17       17       +4       8: STR
Constitution    13       12       +2      12: STR
Intelligence     8        8       +2      16: STR
Wisdom          11       11       +2      20: STR
Charisma         8        8       +2      24: STR
                                          28: STR

Feats

 1        : Point Blank Shot
 1 HalfElf: Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
 1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
 3        : Power Attack
 5 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant
 6        : Cleave
 7 Monk   : Precision
 8 Monk   : Zen Archery
 9        : Adept of Forms
 9 Fighter: Improved Critical: Piercing
10 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Piercing
12        : Master of Forms
12 Fighter: Greater Two Weapon Fighting
14 Fighter: Improved Precise Shot
15        : Improved Critical: Ranged
16 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Piercing
18        : Grandmaster of Forms
18 Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus: Piercing
20 Fighter: Greater Weapon Specialization: Piercing
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic   : Combat Archery
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic   : Blinding Speed
28 Destiny: Elusive Target


Enhancements (80 AP)

Half-Elf (4 AP)

Versatile Nature, Human Strength, Human Damage Boost

Kensei (33 AP)

Kensei Focus: Picks and Hammers, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought, Power Surge
Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III
Weapon Group Specialization, Weapon Meditation I, Ascetic Training: Agility I
Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Strike I, Strength
Weapon Group Specialization, Strength
Keen Edge, One with the Blade, Deadly Strike

Tempest (23 AP)

Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest
Improved Reaction III, Whirling Blades
Improved Parry III, Bleed Them Out III, Whirling Blades
Whirling Blades
The Growing Storm III

Shintao (7 AP)

Bastion of Purity
Deft Strikes III

Stalwart Defender (6 AP)

Toughness, Stalwart Defense
Item Defense I, Durable Defense III

Arcane Archer (6 AP)

Arcane Archer, Morphic Arrows
Conjure Arrows, Corrosive Arrows

Deepwood Stalker (1 AP)

Far Shot


Destiny (24 AP)

Legendary Dreadnought

Extra Action Boost III, Strength
Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack
Lay Waste, Critical Damage III
Anvil of Thunder
Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz, Pulverizer

Twists of Fate (14 fate points)

Balanced Attacks (Tier 3 Primal)
Lithe (Tier 2 Shadowdancer)
Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)

If you don't have a +4 DEX tome, you can either put lvl-ups into DEX to make up the difference; or drop Combat Archery and take, say, Great Cleave instead.

Pulverizer works with bows if you have Morphic Arrows active; hence why I have both. Crit profiles using Earth Stance are: 17-18/x4 19-20/x7 hvy picks; 17-18/x3 19-20/x6 longbows (15-18/x3 if Pinion). That's still not as good a TWF pally, unfortunately, but it's not bad.

I would've liked to add Fists of Iron but in this configuration I have only 1 AP to spare (Far Shot) and I need two. This layout emphasizes DPS as much as I could; you could improve survivability by shifting APs from Tempest into Shintao (Iron Skin), SD (Resilient Defense), and HE (heal amp). You could also shift APs from Tempest into DWS to pick up Called Shot, which can be fun.

I've also got an idea for an uncentered toon which uses warhammers instead of picks and take Dance of Death instead of Keen Edge + One w/Blade (since Pulverizer doesn't stack w/KE on hammers). I'm not sure I would say it's any better, but I can post it if you're interested in comparing it.

[Keriath]

I do have a +4 dex tome iirc on the character in question, and if not i can grab one for TP since i think i have like 3k turbine points. I will give the build you posted up a shot tonight when i can do the respec on him. Thanks again

ninja edit; Also forgot to mention that i have the free +20 heart of wood if that changes up how i should level the specific classes and what order etc that can be used for him.

[Nightmanis]

The picture says yes, I do, since I did. As to why, if you don't get it from the synergy map, you could just make the build and since the build uses THF, TWF, S&B, and TWF-Unarmed-Shapeshifting, and you will learn why! I consider it the supreme build in DDO for many reasons, including what it will teach you.

You could help by telling us what gear you're using.

[Abierl]

Hello guys, how are you?

Well, i used to play ddo few years ago (about 2010-2012) and im back.
Im really lost, i have a premium account with 32 pt, i dont know what to do.
Enhancements changed a lot too, and the forum has changed as well. Its hard to find actual builds who take my attention...

I want a melee with high DPS (i remember how i loved to play with this build https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...5b8a19d8d6f9a4 but its really old)
one sorcerer build (i have one lvl 13, im lost with these new enhancements. A have one old fire savant build, but want to start another build, any ideas?)
one pure fighter kensei (for one friend, playing first time, its impossible to me to find one build like this)
and one build with trap skills but cool dps.

Im sorry asking a lot of things and my english hurts, but, could anyone of you help me with it?

[daniel7]

I'm going to do an iTR soon. I'd like a build that will level me through LD and then through Shiradi and possibly the rest of the Primal Sphere. I don't want mostly paladin lives because I already have 3 pally past lives. Looks like a build that does melee and ranged fits best for leveling these EDs. I have two Mornhs I could duel wield which sounds like fun in LD. I'm use to playing builds that can heal themselves in combat but I'm not completely opposed to playing something that doesn't if it can survive by other means. This is a 36 point build with +4 and +5 tomes.

I'm interesting in reading any opinions you guys are willing to give on your ideal build to level up as painlessly as possible LD, Shiradi, and possible more of the Primal Sphere with this life.

Here are some of my thoughts as of right now without much detail:
1. Morninglord Cetus' -ish 18barb/1clr/1rgr. Though I'd like to be self healing this build looks like fun...probably best after I can twist in things like Cocoon.
2. Morninglord 12ftr/6clr/2rgr - TWF, Manyshot, Healing Aura
3. Bladeforged 2-6 levels of paladin / 1-6 levels of ranger / 2-12 levels of fighter
4. Purple Dragon Knight 8-14 levels of fighter/ 5-6 levels of cleric / 1-6 levels of ranger

Thanks for sharing.

[ccd1977]

It has been 7 years since I played and I decided to reactivate me account. I am currently VIP and have access to Bladeforged as well as 32 pts for build. I have no tomes and really cannot afford a full tome build.

I don't have much gear and would like this build to have high DPS or high Crit or both. I would really like TWF build with range if that is possible with survivability. I will be soloing a lot since I have not had the best luck finding active guilds or constructive groups.

Race preferred is human or bladeforged but that is not mandatory.

A listing of feats, skills, etc. would be great. Sorry to be such a pain but my current builds suck.

[unbongwah]

I don't have much gear and would like this build to have high DPS or high Crit or both. I would really like TWF build with range if that is possible with survivability. I will be soloing a lot since I have not had the best luck finding active guilds or constructive groups.

Unless you want to want for the ranger overhaul next update, I vote for either barb or pally for a TWF+Manyshot build. See my drow paladin thread and Cetus's latest for examples of both. Any build can be adapted to 32-pt builds; the only tricky part is how you hit DEX 17 for ITWF & GTWF feat pre-reqs. Alternatively, you could start leveling a pure ranger and anticipate a big DPS boost when the rgr upgrade goes live.

It is also still possible to do a TWF+ranged rogue build (Assassin+Mechanic), however they're pretty feat-constrained because the biggest DPS upgrades got backloaded into the lvl 18 & 20 core Enhancements; so if you MC for extra feats, it means sacrificing those higher-lvl Enhs (and thus taking a DPS loss).