NoDoze, thanks for the links.
I was actually trying to think of a way to make a wizard bladeforged build, since it would ease alot of feat chosing.
The Nova Shiradi build you mentioned looks quite nice but wouldn't fit either of my qualifications (LR20 from pure cleric, and would need paladin levels if BF) unless I could do Wiz/Monk/Pal or Wiz/Fvs/Pal, but one loses mana regeneration from fvs, and the scond loses evasion and two feats, so am unsure how well the split would work. If the spell regen is less important, I would sub paladin for favored soul, though this may be rough as I still don't have a torc. Alternately, for using a LR20, divine disciple in cleric is a poor substitute for favored soul levels, but may still be viable. I'd need to go Wiz/Cleric/Rogue, since he's true neutral (wish I'd made him LG years ago).
With regards to the fvs build, how important is the shadowscale docent? Also how would this do after the paladin changes? A comment in there seemed to say losing 10 saves (Current plan is to cap at +8 with 2 PAL levels).
Right now I'm leaning away from LR20'ing, since so many of the better builds rely on monk and/or paladin, which would be locked out. That would leave either a sorc shiradi or the fvs build. The fvs build seems a bit more reliant on gear in order to bring up the MM caster level, so may be less viable?
Oh, and the semi-adapted fvs build:
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male (2 Paladin \ 6 Wizard \ 12 Favored Soul \ 8 Epic) Hit Points: 538 Spell Points: 2021 BAB: 14\14\19\24 Fortitude: 28 Reflex: 22 Will: 23 Starting Ending Abilities Base Stats Base Stats (34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28) Strength 8 8 Dexterity 6 6 Constitution 17 22 Intelligence 16 18 Wisdom 14 15 Charisma 14 24 Tomes Used +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2 +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2 +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2 +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6 +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10 +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10 +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 14 +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 17 Starting Ending Base Skills Base Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 28) Balance -2 -2 Bluff 2 7 Concentration 7 30 Diplomacy 6 25 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle 2 7 Heal 2 12 Hide -2 -2 Intimidate 2 7 Jump -1 0 Listen 2 2 Move Silently -2 -2 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform 3 8 Repair 5 27 Search 3 4 Spellcraft 3 27 Spot 2 2 Swim -1 -1 Tumble n/a -1 Use Magic Device 4 18 Level 1 (Paladin) Skill: Concentration (+4) Skill: Diplomacy (+4) Skill: Perform (+1) Skill: Repair (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+2) Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric Level 2 (Paladin) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Diplomacy (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Level 3 (Favored Soul) Skill: Spellcraft (+5) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Level 4 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Spellcraft (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Level 5 (Wizard) Skill: Repair (+5) Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell Level 6 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Spellcraft (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation Level 7 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Heal (+4) Level 8 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Diplomacy (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire Level 9 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Spellcraft (+2) Skill: Tumble (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness Level 10 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Diplomacy (+3) Skill: Spellcraft (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Level 11 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+3) Skill: Spellcraft (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Level 12 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Diplomacy (+3) Skill: Spellcraft (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness Level 13 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Heal (+3) Skill: Spellcraft (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity Level 14 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Diplomacy (+2) Skill: Spellcraft (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Level 15 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Diplomacy (+3) Skill: Spellcraft (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 16 (Wizard) Skill: Repair (+6) Level 17 (Wizard) Skill: Repair (+6) Level 18 (Wizard) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Repair (+2) Skill: Spellcraft (+3) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 19 (Wizard) Skill: Concentration (+3) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Spellcraft (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Empower Spell Level 20 (Wizard) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Spellcraft (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5) Level 21 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Toughness Level 22 (Epic) Level 23 (Epic) Level 24 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Mental Toughness Level 25 (Epic) Level 26 (Epic) Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Force Level 27 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Ruin Level 28 (Epic) Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Hellball Enhancement: Bladeforged - 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