Weekly Dev Activities 08/06/07

[binnsr]

THEY CHANGED HER BOOTS?

Thats it Im outta here

That was the real meaning behind the feet/feat snafu -- there was a horrible collision in Quarions word processor and the two Notes got inexplicably merged..

[binnsr]

DARN

EDIT: Gotcha again.

actually, I think that's the first time you've got me at all

[Ziggy]

double post

[Ziggy]

actually, I think that's the first time you've got me at all

maybe today

[Mercules]

Wrong. It was impossible to predict how Listen might be involved in there- in fact, even now the announcements have not been accurate enough for us to know what it means.

Except for the fact that Listen has said it would help detect foes for as long as I can remember. Only recently has the manual changed to reflect the fact that it never actually worked that way. Also, there was a tool tip that said something about "Want to detect hidden monsters? Raise your Spot and Listen skills." So, it was pretty easy to predict how Listen was supposed to work and proving it to the devs that it didn't was the hard part.

[Mercules]

And let's be honest, you don't need spot/listen as a tank.

Right, it could be like right now where 45% of the "tanks" out there just blindly walk past the mobs that just agro'd on the caster in the back of the group because they never bother to invest in the Spot skill or an item. Except that now it will be 90% since that other 45% at least was clicking to "tab-target" hidden things.

[Symar-FangofLloth]

I've had a decent listen on a couple characters and have been able to "see" stealthed monsters while they were moving, but not standing still. You sure it didn't work?

[Mercules]

bring a rogue along.

have him throw a dagger at the enemies.

Why? We have voice chat. I have ALWAYS let the tanks know where the mobs are via voice chat.

"Two more coming in from the left."

"There is a wolf right in front of you Player1."

"Player2, watch it, two Slimes just came in on you from 4'o-clock. We wouldn't want that pretty vorpal damaged."

"Two more mobs."

"Two more, more mobs."

"Barbarian/Shaman in front of us."

Sometimes I'll shoot to unhide them, but I prefer to just let people know and keep the agro off me. My tanking characters tend to use spot items.

[Mercules]

Just like the balance change, I'm sure everyone will adjust -- either by finding somewhere to squeeze in a spot item, or by putting skill points into future levels when they are available-- and in time, no one will remember that you didn't always need a +spot or +listen item on your tanks.. But, for skill-starved classes, it's goingto be a long, slow road having to maintain both balance and spot/listen as cross-class skills (paladins and fighters, in particular)

What?!? Min-maxing isn't all it should be? Gimping Int was a bad idea? Who could have predicted that?

[Mad_Bombardier]

I've had a decent listen on a couple characters and have been able to "see" stealthed monsters while they were moving, but not standing still. You sure it didn't work?

Same here. I have seen red footsteps from monsters, too.

[Daerius of the Blessed Blades]

ehh.. people leave everytime they change something.. They could change the color of Cidonie's boots and someone would quit.

They say the best humor is based on truth. And you nailed it.

Thanks for the laugh!

[Talon_Moonshadow]

That's because doing any quest in the necropolis is like going to the dentist

LOL

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Why? We have voice chat. I have ALWAYS let the tanks know where the mobs are via voice chat.

"Two more coming in from the left."

"There is a wolf right in front of you Player1."

"Player2, watch it, two Slimes just came in on you from 4'o-clock. We wouldn't want that pretty vorpal damaged."

"Two more mobs."

"Two more, more mobs."

"Barbarian/Shaman in front of us."

Sometimes I'll shoot to unhide them, but I prefer to just let people know and keep the agro off me. My tanking characters tend to use spot items.

It's hilarious to watch them turn in place.....looking around, but not completly believing you or taking any action, since they cannot see it for themselves.

[Targitaj_Silverskin]

NEW - Monsters that are hiding or invisible can no longer be tab (or `) selected unless a player can detect the monster using their Spot or Listen skills

cool

[Bizbag]

[*]NEW - It is now possible to trade a feat for a feat which can be aquired multiple times when the player already has one. So players can now aquire Toughness as many times as they like through feet respec.

Feet Respec?