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    Quote Originally Posted by tekn0mage View Post
    You don't really know who you're talking to ... do ya Gimp?
    You really can't follow a conversation, can you?

    Quote Originally Posted by tekn0mage View Post
    AFAIK - Aesch's guild were the first ones to take down the Reaver game-wide. If he's talking about other people using a cheeseball sploit
    But he is not. Somebody else is the OP who is making this complaint.

    There are two distinct tricks that can be used in the Reaver's Fate. The OP is incorrectly claiming they are using the first one (which was a blatant exploit of bugs), when really they have moved on to the second (which is much less clear-cut as to whether or not the developers intended it to work).
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cataclysm View Post
    Could have sworn you have to go inside the quest to be listed as the party leader for the completion message. When I was party leader of a reaver raid on my cleric (before he was raid ready) he was not listed as the party leader.
    Maybe they entered the raid to buff everyone and then switched characters.
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    trust me, if you reported a single guild soo many times, and nothing has happened, simply means a dev in stealth came and watched and left with the same intent that it isnt a exploit ok?

    so either people think its one, or it really isnt one, as the OP stated he reported several weeks, and nothing has yet to be done, so the only conclusion is nothing is wrong, in what tactic they are using
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furgulder View Post
    and the moral of the story is:

    If you see someone you think is exploiting the Reaver raid, walk away. Because if you come here and post about it, they will come with their friends and call you a tattle tail.


    Until just today I, nor Tekno to my knowledge, have characters on Fernia. I don't know anyone there. How, then, could I be buddies with them?

    Even if this is a joke with your , I don't think it's terribly funny.

    I don't like exploits. I hated watching people use holy-smite wands when they were glitched. However, I don't think that coming in, uninformed, and caterwalling ON THE FORUMS is the way to get your point across. PM Sparker, or get the attention of a GM in the game, but this isn't really the place for it if you find that you absolutely have to mind other people's business.
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    /sign

    Fix it please, I'm getting tired of it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gol View Post
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    Fix it please, I'm getting tired of it too.
    /sign as well.

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    what are u guys signing?
    Quote Originally Posted by KindoRaber View Post
    - What bothers me about buffer types and patient characters can be summed up like this... Nothing. It's their style but I am usually on a strict time limit and need to complete as much in as little a time as possible. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. Hate me because I am better than you.

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    Default Absolute fix

    The RIGHT way to fix it is to adjust every warded raid chest so that simply holding the Glyph of Unwarding is not enough to allow you to loot the special item. You must also be marked as complete for the corresponding quest stage to be allowed to have the item.

    Additionally, as a special rule, opening the warded chest should boot any disconnected players out of your party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaitee View Post
    what are u guys signing?
    I think they're generally signing to have the forcefield stay up across the door of Reaver's Fate after the mission is complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimpster View Post
    The RIGHT way to fix it is to adjust every warded raid chest so that simply holding the Glyph of Unwarding is not enough to allow you to loot the special item. You must also be marked as complete for the corresponding quest stage to be allowed to have the item.

    Additionally, as a special rule, opening the warded chest should boot any disconnected players out of your party.

    Another way to solve it is to make it so that you can not enter a completed raid quest. From what I heard on the European forums, they have already made a change making it so you can't re-enter if you die and release from the quest.

    No need to remove disconnected members since they will get quest completion as soon as they reconnect. Leaving the forcefield up also doesn't solve the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimpster View Post
    You really can't follow a conversation, can you?
    I think you missed the part where he states there are exploits that you DON'T know about.

    I guess that means you don't have all the answers eh?

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    Default fix the raid

    I agree, and my guild all voted to stop exploiting also. We started then voted against. Yes, you can exploit the raid.

    In the end, we don't think it's fair.

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    here exploit over.
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=115504
    NEW - The primary warded chest in all raids has been converted to the standard format for all chests in DDO. Every player in the raid will have their own treasure generated and assigned to them when they look into the chest. The locking glyphs are no more.

    Each character has a 1 in 6 chance to receive a special item from that raid’s loot table. Otherwise, a standard treasure from the maximum treasure table appropriate for that raid will be generated for that character. Players may re-assign any items to other characters in the raid using the new treasure re-assignment feature. This includes any special raid only items.

    The raid only items are still bound once they are removed from the chest. A warning confirmation box appears when attempting to grab a bind on acquire raid item from the chest.

    In addition, the primary warded chest creates the list of characters that are allowed to loot the chest at the time chest spawns. This list contains all the members of the raid at the time the list was created. Characters not on the list do not have treasure generated for them when they open the chest and may not have items re-assigned to them.
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    Thanks for the research Ziggy. No comments on the exploit. Kudos on the idea, Turbine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tekn0mage View Post
    I think you missed the part where he states there are exploits that you DON'T know about.
    No, I saw that he said so. But he's WRONG. I do know of them, and all my previous posts reflect that knowledge.

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    I'll reserve judgement on how well that works for raid loot in general, but it looks awesome for squishing cheaters.

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    Well... I cannot believe the real exploit slipped by my own eyes until I read this post.

    I see now exactly what is going on, seems like this exploit can be used for all raid quests to repeat them. Titan, DQ, Dragon, Reaver.

    All I can say is DUH! The exploit here has been around since the begining of this game, but was mostly used for a different reason than to repeat raids.

    Hmm, I think I can file a meaningful bug report about it... but since it hasn't been fixed since the start of the game, it is not likely to get fixed anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimpster View Post
    No, I saw that he said so. But he's WRONG. I do know of them, and all my previous posts reflect that knowledge.
    Wow Gimpster knows everything. Geez, do you realize how wrong that sounds?

    Just by him posting knowledge of an exploit you are obviously not aware of, does this not invalidate your claim of omniscience?

    I just find it funny after all the times you have used the word "Wrong." today in your posts, that you end up being there too.

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    I have to say two things to this.

    1) THANK YOU, Turbine, for finally fixing this. This action will finally shut up all the people who were claiming it wasn't an exploit, and they weren't cheating, etc.

    and

    2) HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! How do you like THEM apples, members of aformentioned guild which I won't name!
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    They didn't fix this quest... they created a new loot mechanic. Which is far, far worse. So before you go thanking them I would go do 100 raids, and find out how much less raid loot you have, than the 100 raids with the old system.

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