Another sad plea for a better Titan experience

[Blackhammer]

Hi devs (and forum hounds),

I would just like to make another plea to the Dev's to look at the Titan Raid and possibly make, what I would like to affectionately call, a fix. Could you please code the Pillars so that they can respawn after a set time limit so that when the Titan clumsily stumbles into one and shreds it like a quisinart it does not completely hose an otherwise, up till then, successful raid beyond recovery? All this means is that a group would take longer to kill the Titan than if they were successful with the original amount present. Our group the other night was well prepared to take him down and one more pillar would have done it but the Titan destroyed 2 on his own and our laser controller was conveniently knocked off his perch as a 3rd was used. We were hosed beyond repair. Another solution might be to make the pillars immune to any damage that the Titan might dish out, and in retrospect maybe an easier solution. Again, a desperate plea for elimination of a great frustration please. Thanks for listening...

[Gimpster]

Our group the other night was well prepared to take him down and one more pillar would have done it but the Titan destroyed 2 on his own

The titan does not destroy pillars on his own.

However, you are correct that The Titan Awakes has some serious game design problems with it, and that allowing the pillars to recover in some way (like maybe a player casting Reconstruct on them) might be an improvement.

Or, reverting the Titan so that spells like Grease and Cometfall could also help. (Of course, he should have high stability bonuses so those spells rarely work). And of course, there are many other ways to improve that encounter which would entail more drastic alteration.

[Knightrose]

Titan's fine.

Only thing I want fixed in Titan is the barrier, after you defeat the Titan, around the chest to ALWAYS drop. Somtimes the barrier stays up and you can't get at the loot without a Dimension Door.

I prefer raids to have some level of permanent failure. Otherwise its just WoW with a D20. There's no tact involve if everyone can just zerg.

[geoffhanna]

I've run Titan four times, with skilled and knowledgable players.

Succeeded once.

Seems about right to me for an epic raid. If anything, I'd like to see the other raids toughened up.

[JD2134]

I see no problem with the titan raid and the pillars. In fact the biggest problem i find is with the barrers not dropping if the titan is killed with a range weapon and not magic or melee. As for the pillars i notice no problem with the titan damaging them and all.

[Tanka]

I've yet to fail the raid, even done it on Elite twice for favor for myself and others.

Take your time, line up your shots carefully, and always make sure you get power right before firing the laser.

[Zarbryn]

Our Guild runs Titan all the time and after they did patch the pillars so he didn't wreck them, i haven't seen him destroy one yet. I've seen some really weird stuff from the Control perch like, Hackin a pillar, dropping the titan, firing the laser and see another pillar just fall. Now that could be chalked up to someone hitting it, IF the only guy on the floor wasn't dead from the Titan blender hand and everyone else was up top...

I have seen some funny stuff like someone who's never been in there Summon an Pet, who proceeds straight to the pillars hellbent on destroying them... or someone dropping a Blade barrier on him cause he's bugged and won't move and taking down two pillars at once... Ohhhhh good times.

[GHOSTRYDER]

no the titan does not destroy pillars but one time i did have a pillar collapse prematurely while prepping the bottoms, still had about 1/16-1/8 inch of health left and it fell...yes i probably was cutting it too close but the pillar was not destroyed and was laying on the ground, it was only after we completed the raid that i went back to the same pillar and finished it off, and THEN recieved the combat text "you killed pillar"

anyone else ever have this happen?

[Montrose]

Well there is the bug where you hit him 6 times and you get 6 "the titan gets whapped with a spuer beam of energy wow look at that thing go!" message in your general chat log, but his shield stays up.

Happened to us last night. Fun.

Programmer Error: 1 Players: 0

[GHOSTRYDER]

Well there is the bug where you hit him 6 times and you get 6 "the titan gets whapped with a spuer beam of energy wow look at that thing go!" message in your general chat log, but his shield stays up.

Happened to us last night. Fun.

Programmer Error: 1 Players: 0

That isnt a bug, it happens when he gets healed by the laser in the process of running crystals. When this happens you will need to hit him a seventh time to get him down to the 20%

happens to me about once every 3 or 4 runs

so allow me to correct you..

Titan:1 Players:0

[Hence]

When the Titan was first introduced, he was nearly impossible to defeat.
Now, he is just the opposite... he is nearly impossible to fail on.
Everyone just needs to make sure they are on the same page when taking down pillers. And do not destroy the tops completely until you are ready to destroy the bottoms.

If anything, I would love to see some little Warforged spawn up top that can actually attack the group of players.

[Blazer]

And do not destroy the tops completely until you are ready to destroy the bottoms.

We take out the tops completely before prepping the bottoms and haven't had any issues.

[sigtrent]

Never seen the titan take out a pillar, never... I've run it about 8 times and he is all over those things in terms of proximity. We have taken to only prepping one pillar at a time to minimize "accidents". I'm not ruling out the possibility but likely one of the players knocked it down without noticing or was simply covering up their error.

I usualy tell folks to simply not attack while the titan has his shields up. Especialy no damage spells or ranged attacks. A lot of folks seem hell bent on attacking him for no good reason. You can't get agro that way and you can't hurt him.

I love that raid, way better than all the others IMHO.

[GHOSTRYDER]

We take out the tops completely before prepping the bottoms and haven't had any issues.

same here, i see no reason to wait

[Memnir]

I've seen pets damage the pillars - but never the titan.
It's hard, yes. But... I think it's finally working as intended. Personally, I don't have a problem with the raid as-is.

[Murgatroyd]

I've seen many a pillar knocked down by someone swinging their 2hander and dealing glancing damage, but never the titan taking down one the pillars. It also depends on where you place the laser. If you fire in the middle position with 2 pillars prepped you will take out the 2nd pillar.

The safest thing to do is to only have 1-2 people down there with the titan. One person kites while the other does the pillar stuff.

I've also noticed that the chest barriers come up if someone dimension doors at the end of the quest.

Confusion is your biggest enemy in that quest.

[Gimpster]

I've also noticed that the chest barriers come up if someone dimension doors at the end of the quest.

That's backwards. The reason he cast Dimension Door is because the barriers were already there.

[Tavok]

He doesn't destroy pillars on his own, you sure you didn't have anything charmed? A few charmed WF can really bring a party to its knee's in there :P

The Titan needs to be redone possibly with some new technology though, its been very buggy since the day it came out. The last time I was there in fact (3 man run btw, so you think agro would be the least of our worries), we spent 40 minutes f*cking around and testing stuff out and we finally came to the conclusion that when someone changed floors, he changed agro, making it nearly impossible to keep him in one place for more than a second. I have no idea why this is happen, but I can tell ya, it did happen (I know, I know, no SS)(2 Chattering Rings though so all is good )

[Tavok]

Well there is the bug where you hit him 6 times and you get 6 "the titan gets whapped with a spuer beam of energy wow look at that thing go!" message in your general chat log, but his shield stays up.

Happened to us last night. Fun.

Programmer Error: 1 Players: 0

Thats not a bug, or a design flaw, he gets healed as you run by him with the crystal, if you are lucky it only hitshim with Bull's Str, but sometimes it will cast repair on him and make it so you have to knock another pillar on for that extra damage.

[Gimpster]

Thats not a bug, or a design flaw, he gets healed as you run by him with the crystal,

The fact that getting a crystal near him can heal him IS a bug and a design flaw.

Clearly Turbine was thinking of that healing effect as a way to make the Ancient Warforged more dangerous when they were chasing the crystal runner. They obviously didn't do it with the idea: "lets set it so that if the crystal gets near the Titan it heals him so you need more than 6 pillars total"