what if turbine is working on a new ddo?

[gelgoog]

say........ddo forgotten realms.
you would be able to bring all your toons and gear from eberron.
be able to travel back and forth between forgotten realms and eberron.

think of this game with more content but set in forgotten realms in new cities and such.

i know many posts have been posted on the fr settings since the begining.
but, this combat system in ddo is i think the best for a mmorpg.

so if they tweaked it, fixed the bugs that we all know in ddo eberron, had more classes, races, weapons, gear, crafting, customizeable options for our toons, guild halls,
a real explorable huge area where we could fight enemies and run into others playing and help them if need be all in the same instance.

i know some of these things are coming to ddo eberron but, it might be too little to late. turbine needs to advertise a new game that combines this game with the new ddo forgotten realms, or something.

i dig ddo and want this game and combat system to last for at least 2 more years. right now i'm wondering if i should invest time into a game that will be no more in less than a year?

oh......and they need to take off the red named boss immunties in ddo eberron...he he ...i will always be after that fix. since it forces many to make dps builds, which in turn makes a lot of people playing the same...yawn boring.....but, thats for another post.


/shrug

[Zarlon]

I agree with you 100% that I am getting reluctant to support a game that is dying. Turbine has done nothing to make game attractive & exciting for last couple of months. I am a p&p D&D player that has waited for them to implemenate the rest of classed & races. They seem to think that we will keep paying them for more bugs, lag and really no new content (dragon hold is the exception) since at least Jan. I am tired of them constantly going in an changing the existing quests so that they can (claimed by them) fix bugs. But all they have done is redo the existing quests to make them harder while claiming that they are doing this because users claim that the quests are too easy. A remedy to this is not change the existing quests but add content that is different, exciting and not a reroll of old quests. I would support Turbine more if they were responsive to the customers who pay the bills. I have noticed that less & less people are playing the game on a continous basis, why? Because the game is getting repetitous and has (in general) no new content or surprises except for them changing the existing dungeons. Wake up Turbine, your customers are leaving in droves yet you seem to think this is not happening. I really like playing D&D but Turbine has lost focus on what D&D really is.

[Uska]

Umm the realms bites and wouldnt work no warforged in the realms another company has gaming rights for the realms. How about you try enjoying the world of Eberron its so much better then the others.

[Ithrani]

We need to have a fully developed Sharn. Plain and simple, I am sick of Stormreach. Before level 18 we should have Sharn in the works. Get the license Turbine, how hard can it be. You have nearly a year, make DDO Sharn the City of Towers. Make it cheaper to download if you have an account then to buy the new update if you need to make some money off it. I bet you will find new players and old players coming to the game. Real new content, the only other thing i would love to see in the game is some more interaction with the world. the graphics are awesome, but who designed chairs. But I know this is not important and probably very time consuming and cost to make chairs that actually let you sit. And way yeah new City, we need it, and not as an explorer zone, though some parts would make greats zones, but the City itself as a new place to go and search for quests.Hell make it the heart of crafting, you have to go to Sharn and somehow fly to the top to be able to craft an item. Taadaa, you should hire me Turbine. I can make you rich.

[bandyman1]

Umm the realms bites in my opinion and wouldnt work in my opinion no warforged in the realms which by not being a " classic " DnD race, I realize a lot of people don't like another company has gaming rights for the realms. How about you try enjoying the world of Eberron which, by playing DDO, I realize you have and still don't like it its so much better then the others again, in my opinion.

Fixed it for you Uska.

[Dimicron]

I'd second Uska's posts. The realms is overplayed. Move on and experience some other setting

An awesome setting for DDO would have been Planescape, but the sheer size of it would be impractical. Dark Sun would have been different too, and fun. But the powers that be chose Eberron, and I have no problem with that, though I would like to see other continents and locations besides Stormreach/Xen'drik.

[Silverblade-T-E]

Vastly more peopel preffer the Realms, to Ebberon, despite WOTC marketing.
So, this is another nail in DDO's coffin.
While initally folk wanted a new settign to provoke and inspire, it has been a bit of a "damp squib".
oh, and too hell with taking the Monty Haul stupid gear from DDO into any other campaign setting, ugh!

The original 1st boxed set of the Realms, rules. Awesome! But, they ruined the Realms by "Elminsterization"....never EVER reveal too much of a game setting, or you destory its mystery and thus, it's fun.

Yeah, I'd have preffered Dark Sun

[Uska]

Fixed it for you Uska.

WRong

[Uska]

I'd second Uska's posts. The realms is overplayed. Move on and experience some other setting

An awesome setting for DDO would have been Planescape, but the sheer size of it would be impractical. Dark Sun would have been different too, and fun. But the powers that be chose Eberron, and I have no problem with that, though I would like to see other continents and locations besides Stormreach/Xen'drik.

Would love to see sharn or the mournlands

[Uska]

Vastly more peopel preffer the Realms, to Ebberon, despite WOTC marketing.
So, this is another nail in DDO's coffin.
While initally folk wanted a new settign to provoke and inspire, it has been a bit of a "damp squib".
oh, and too hell with taking the Monty Haul stupid gear from DDO into any other campaign setting, ugh!

The original 1st boxed set of the Realms, rules. Awesome! But, they ruined the Realms by "Elminsterization"....never EVER reveal too much of a game setting, or you destory its mystery and thus, it's fun.

Yeah, I'd have preffered Dark Sun

The realms is boring and unorignal if they wanted to use the true dnd world they should have used greyhawk.....

[Shecky]

Vastly more peopel preffer the Realms, to Ebberon, despite WOTC marketing.

Numbers, please - sweeping statements like this BEG to have actual evidence supporting them. Heck, I could say that every group I've seen since the introduction of Eberron has played nothing BUT Eberron. But my experience, exactly like yours, is far from a statistical universe.

My $0.02: FR is overdone, overangsty and overdrowed.

So, this is another nail in DDO's coffin.
While initally folk wanted a new settign to provoke and inspire, it has been a bit of a "damp squib".
oh, and too hell with taking the Monty Haul stupid gear from DDO into any other campaign setting, ugh!

The original 1st boxed set of the Realms, rules. Awesome! But, they ruined the Realms by "Elminsterization"....never EVER reveal too much of a game setting, or you destory its mystery and thus, it's fun.

Yeah, I'd have preffered Dark Sun

That's you. You knew from the beginning that DDO was based in Eberron. Staying in DDO has removed all justification for griping that it isn't FR.

[bandyman1]

WRong

So....how many posts have we had about this now? So your saying that it is not a matter of opinion that Ebberon is superior to FR, that FR blows, ect., ect.?

If that was the case, then why so many posts from peeps asking for a DDO II set in FR? Maybe because in their opinion, Eberron blows. Ever think of that?
Or about the fact, that historically FR has been the highest selling D&D campaign world of all time? It must not suck too bad.

You think Ebberon is great. THAT'S YOUR OPINION!!! I'm sure alot of peeps agree with you. But I'll also bet there are as many or more peeps who don't. If asked, I'm sure alot of peeps ( myself included and I'm a 20+ year DnD palyer who's played both campaigns ) think Ebberon blows.

[Bloodmech]

The developers said rom the begening that thay choose eberon because it was the newest world, and thaat they had the most abillty to expand freely honistly I would prefeer to see mor of ebberon, not even a full city but a town, settalment or garrison, than to employ a diferent setting esoecaully the over used relms....I really dont want another NWN

[Dimicron]

So....how many posts have we had about this now? So your saying that it is not a matter of opinion that Ebberon is superior to FR, that FR blows, ect., ect.?

If that was the case, then why so many posts from peeps asking for a DDO II set in FR? Maybe because in their opinion, Eberron blows. Ever think of that?
Or about the fact, that historically FR has been the highest selling D&D campaign world of all time? It must not suck too bad.

You think Ebberon is great. THAT'S YOUR OPINION!!! I'm sure alot of peeps agree with you. But I'll also bet there are as many or more peeps who don't. If asked, I'm sure alot of peeps ( myself included and I'm a 20+ year DnD palyer who's played both campaigns ) think Ebberon blows.

I could be mistaken, but doesn't FR also have the distinction of having the most books in print at this time? Hard to compare settings with more than a 2 to 1 advantage in print

[gelgoog]

i only used forgotten realms as an example really.
it could be any setting i suppose.

but, ithrani is right they need to expand on ebberon at least.
ebberon has other cities then stormreach.

it would be awesome to go into another city with over 140 missions.
new weapons, gear, monsters, races and such like in the ebberon books.

just a ton of more time sink stuff in game.
that was my main point not forgotten realms.
the updates for the game are cool and all, just not enough...not nearly enough.

i know a good amount of people that prefer forgotten realms over the others.
so everyone has an opinion about what magical lands they would like to visit with/without there ddo toons. hey it's a forum say what you want.

i want this game to last longer than what i think it will last.
i just hope a dev or someone from turbine just looks and reads our posts and suggestions, thats all.

its a good mmorpg, not the greatest nor the best. but for now my favorite, bugs and all. i know it's a niche player base that plays ddo, as does turbine.
lets give suggestions to turbine on what each of us would like in game.
maybe ...just maybe turbine will listen and adapt to there playerbase? maybe.

lets hope that turbine is working on a ddo2 wherever it may be set in.
/shrug

[szalkerous]

Well since we all want a game customized to our own preference of campaign, I'll toss my two cents in on the Dragonlance campaign. Probably the least popular, but I always enjoyed it. The books were/are great.

/end fantasy

[Deragoth]

I've always enjoyed the FR more than Eberron. In my opinion FR seems to fit prestige classes and epic level play much better. I also think the "History" of the FR is more fulfilling. <Opinion>Eberron still feels empty to me... Mishmashed together to save a waining customer interest, filled with silliness to appeal to the younger masses.</Opinion>

I often wonder if it's the preconceived notions I have from the FR that make me feel this way. For example, Dragon alignments, typical race alignments, a more fleshed out "higher plains". I can't really put my finger on it.

Either way, I still like Eberron, but I'd rather play FR. If they released a DDO: FR, I'd move immediatly, and yes, you could have my stuff.

[ORCRiST]

Vastly more peopel preffer the Realms, to Ebberon, despite WOTC marketing.
So, this is another nail in DDO's coffin.
While initally folk wanted a new settign to provoke and inspire, it has been a bit of a "damp squib".
oh, and too hell with taking the Monty Haul stupid gear from DDO into any other campaign setting, ugh!

The original 1st boxed set of the Realms, rules. Awesome! But, they ruined the Realms by "Elminsterization"....never EVER reveal too much of a game setting, or you destory its mystery and thus, it's fun.

Yeah, I'd have preffered Dark Sun

The Forgotten Realms, Elminster, and Drizzt Do'Dumbazz blow goats for milk money. FR is for munchkin power-kiddies that need to be spoon fed every minute detail. Worst. Campaign. Setting. EVER.

The realms is boring and unorignal if they wanted to use the true dnd world they should have used greyhawk.....

<Salute!>

Yes, Greyhawk would have been the best choice, but I would have been happy with seeing Dragonlance or even Birthright as well.

ORCRiST

[bandyman1]

Well since we all want a game customized to our own preference of campaign, I'll toss my two cents in on the Dragonlance campaign. Probably the least popular, but I always enjoyed it. The books were/are great.

/end fantasy

Oh absolutely. Always loved the book series myself. The point of my posts in this thread, were that every time Uska makes a post, he proclaims it as if he's some divine power handing down a mandate. What he needs to understand is that his own opinions ( which are all ANYONE'S posts really ever are ), while valid, ARE NOT ANY MORE VALID THAN THE OPINIONS OF ANY OTHER SUBSCRIBER TO THIS GAME.

I added text to his OP to reflect that such statements are his opinion, and his response was;

WRong

Simply laughable, as are most of his posts and responses.


Furthermore, making a sweeping statement that FR bites is just that, HIS OPINION. If that were truly the case, do you think that campaign setting would have been the most successful one ever for both TSR and WotC?

I agree that by playing a game based in Ebberon, we have agreed to play in Ebberon, but that doesn't mean that there are not a lot of people who wish that the only official DnD MMORPG had been set in another of the pregenerated worlds. To act as if everyone " loves Ebberon, and hates FR " is simple egotism and stupidity.

Originally posted by Dimicron
I could be mistaken, but doesn't FR also have the distinction of having the most books in print at this time? Hard to compare settings with more than a 2 to 1 advantage in print

Nope, you are absolutely right. But think about that statement for a minute. If FR was as horrible as Uska would have everyone believe to be fact, then why would TSR and then WotC, spend so many resources developing fiction and game play materials for a setting that no one had any interest in?

[dragnmoon]

I just said this in another Post...

The OP wants the ability to Move characters from Eberron to FR.

If you stick to the Cosmology of Eberron it can not be done (Which Turbine has to).

The Cosmology of Eberron Does not allow for movement between seperate Campaign worlds as set by WotC.

Now in your own home brewed Eberron game you can do anything you want. But Turbine has to stick with what WotC has set.

Edit: Besides I Hate FR