Such A shame...

[Muravi]

I had such high hopes for this game. Having previously beaten my head against the wall through 2+ years of SWG, I prayed this would be different. And honestly for the most part, it has. The game was fun, the response from the dev team was adequate, content was added, and our level cap grew. That being said, the overall plan for the game was poorly executed. Hence my extreme boredom now. I was a hardcore player. I have well over 2000 favor. I have much uber loot, I have played on risia, I have rolled and re-rolled toons, and I am a member of a fairly large and active guild. I have no interest in permadeath or PVP. Perhaps it's my explorer nature but since Mod4 and our rapid progression from lvl 12 to 14 ( a matter of hours ) I have steadily found myself losing interest, focus, etc. How many times from now until lvl 20 will those of us with capped toons be forced to sit through months and months of scant content? The lower end stuff is for new players and re-rollers. IMHO, new players have plenty of content to run through. Again IMHO, Dev focus should be expansion up to lvl 20. Once that goal is reached then by all means, add all the content you can muster for every lvl. I AM TIRED of rerolling characters. Some of you may not be and that's fine. I would like some honest feedback from anyone. Perhaps it's a mental scar from SWG but I now despise wasting a significant portion of my time on games that are clearly having serious issues.

P.S. This opinion was penned before the announcement for server merging. I will have to side with the doom camp on this one. I sense an NGE level event in the near future. SWG refugees will know what I mean.

[Ironik]

I totally agree with people having and voicing their opinions.

In my opinion the DDO community can do without the negative gloom and doom that you bring about. The server merge is a good thing, you will see.

[HumanRogue]

Remember that the next mod (which is advertised to come out next month) claims to have 11 new high level dungeons, 1 new high level wilderness area, and 1 new raid. All high level stuff there...

[Jolani]

To be fair, we don't know the level of content yet. Some will likely be lower level (10-12) and some high level (14-16). When the merge is complete and mod 5 comes out, there will be A LOT of lag and crashes. I predict 5-7 instances of Necropolis.

However, the merge is the best plan to save DDO that I've heard, and I don't want DDO to die.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Again, adding quests, be it 11 or 1100, isnt going to solve the OP's problem.

We NEED timesinks. We NEED something where people can log for 6 hours, not run a single quest and feel they acomplished something. Like crafting.

Think of other MMO's, they have content that has nothing to do with questing. And yes, some of you dont want gathering/crafting/travelling, but these are the things that keep a game alive. These are the things that people need. It creates a sense of realism. It bonds you with your character, it makes you feel that you are actually living in Eberron. Thats what people need/want. Give us housing, give us our own inns with PvP pits, give us THINGS that make us feel at home. Dont have me log in to be standing around the streets. Give us realism and I promise you the game will flourish.

We play these games to escape. At the moment the only escape is quests. Well, when you are done with those what else do you have?? Nothing. More quests. And what are you going to have when you add more quests? Nothing. More quests.

Turbine NEEDS TO NEEDS TO NEEDS TO implement some sort of timesink to the game that DOES NOT involve questing. Favor, raid loot, high-end loot, XP are all good, but they are all tied to the same thing, questing. Or you get tired of them. Crafting never ends. Gathering never ends.

You see what Im getting at?

I honestly, 100% believe if something like that was put into DDO it would be a thriving game. Best character gen, best combat engine, best spells, best weapons, best everything out there...AND its Dungeons & Dragons!!

For the sake of this most awesome games lifespan Turbine MUST implement some sort of timesink realism to the game. And no, I dont want a WoW or LOtR clone either...but I also dont want this game to die.


Edit; I also know all these things are in the pipeline, but IMO they need to be put in ASAP, even before another level raise.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

We NEED timesinks. We NEED something where people can log for 6 hours, not run a single quest and feel they acomplished something. Like crafting.

Think of other MMO's, they have content that has nothing to do with questing. And yes, some of you dont want gathering/crafting/travelling, but these are the things that keep a game alive. These are the things that people need. It creates a sense of realism. It bonds you with your character, it makes you feel that you are actually living in Eberron. Thats what people need/want. Give us housing, give us our own inns with PvP pits, give us THINGS that make us feel at home. Dont have me log in to be standing around the streets. Give us realism and I promise you the game will flourish.
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Timesinks are bad. Collections are bad. Travel is bad. We have enough of that garbage in the game now. The more this looks like other MMOs, the more likely players like me leave. I'm willing to bet at least some other players are here because we don't need to do that garbage.

[Invalid_25]

Again, adding quests, be it 11 or 1100, isnt going to solve the OP's problem.

We NEED timesinks. We NEED something where people can log for 6 hours, not run a single quest and feel they acomplished something. Like crafting.

Think of other MMO's, they have content that has nothing to do with questing. And yes, some of you dont want gathering/crafting/travelling, but these are the things that keep a game alive. These are the things that people need. It creates a sense of realism. It bonds you with your character, it makes you feel that you are actually living in Eberron. Thats what people need/want. Give us housing, give us our own inns with PvP pits, give us THINGS that make us feel at home. Dont have me log in to be standing around the streets. Give us realism and I promise you the game will flourish.

We play these games to escape. At the moment the only escape is quests. Well, when you are done with those what else do you have?? Nothing. More quests. And what are you going to have when you add more quests? Nothing. More quests.

Turbine NEEDS TO NEEDS TO NEEDS TO implement some sort of timesink to the game that DOES NOT involve questing. Favor, raid loot, high-end loot, XP are all good, but they are all tied to the same thing, questing. Or you get tired of them. Crafting never ends. Gathering never ends.

You see what Im getting at?

I honestly, 100% believe if something like that was put into DDO it would be a thriving game. Best character gen, best combat engine, best spells, best weapons, best everything out there...AND its Dungeons & Dragons!!

For the sake of this most awesome games lifespan Turbine MUST implement some sort of timesink realism to the game. And no, I dont want a WoW or LOtR clone either...but I also dont want this game to die.


Edit; I also know all these things are in the pipeline, but IMO they need to be put in ASAP, even before another level raise.

You know whats funny (well maybe only to me) but me and the 18 friends I play with experience none of that in this game. Why? We play D&D online like its D&D.

I have 2 groups I play once a week with a one group we play every other week. Same day same time every week or ever other week. You know just like you would normally play D&D.

None of us even have a toon over lvl 10 we do every dungeon and its every ones first time through no hand holding no tour guiding.

For those of us that want those other things like time sinks we play games like Vanguard EQ2 and LOTR.

When you play DDO like D&D meaning once a week with your old D&D friends this game is more fun than a barrel of monkeys on crack.

[apollojuly]

We NEED timesinks.... We NEED something where people can log for 6 hours, not run a single quest and feel they acomplished something. Like crafting.

...these are the things that keep a game alive. These are the things that people need. ... Thats what people need/want.

Turbine NEEDS TO NEEDS TO NEEDS TO implement some sort of timesink to the game that DOES NOT involve questing.

Turbine, please understand WE and NEED above really mean I and WANT.

I log on to play and have fun, not to sink time.

[Mirta]

Again, adding quests, be it 11 or 1100, isnt going to solve the OP's problem.

We NEED timesinks. We NEED something where people can log for 6 hours, not run a single quest and feel they acomplished something. Like crafting.

Think of other MMO's, they have content that has nothing to do with questing. And yes, some of you dont want gathering/crafting/travelling, but these are the things that keep a game alive. These are the things that people need. It creates a sense of realism. It bonds you with your character, it makes you feel that you are actually living in Eberron. Thats what people need/want. Give us housing, give us our own inns with PvP pits, give us THINGS that make us feel at home. Dont have me log in to be standing around the streets. Give us realism and I promise you the game will flourish.

We play these games to escape. At the moment the only escape is quests. Well, when you are done with those what else do you have?? Nothing. More quests. And what are you going to have when you add more quests? Nothing. More quests.

Turbine NEEDS TO NEEDS TO NEEDS TO implement some sort of timesink to the game that DOES NOT involve questing. Favor, raid loot, high-end loot, XP are all good, but they are all tied to the same thing, questing. Or you get tired of them. Crafting never ends. Gathering never ends.

You see what Im getting at?

I honestly, 100% believe if something like that was put into DDO it would be a thriving game. Best character gen, best combat engine, best spells, best weapons, best everything out there...AND its Dungeons & Dragons!!

For the sake of this most awesome games lifespan Turbine MUST implement some sort of timesink realism to the game. And no, I dont want a WoW or LOtR clone either...but I also dont want this game to die.


Edit; I also know all these things are in the pipeline, but IMO they need to be put in ASAP, even before another level raise.

Agree 100%

Timesinks are bad. Collections are bad. Travel is bad. We have enough of that garbage in the game now. The more this looks like other MMOs, the more likely players like me leave. I'm willing to bet at least some other players are here because we don't need to do that garbage.

No, timesinks and collections aren't bad. They give us an alternative. When I log in I don't usually even feel like questing. I just sit around and use the only timesink we currently have (the auction house) or wait for a raid or help some guildies with favor quests. We need something else than just looting looting looting favor favor favor all the time. What am I supposed to do now that I have the most uber loot and perfect favor, make another character? Oh, joy! Gotta love running another lowbie through boring repetitive quests just so he ends up capped with uber loot and total favor like the rest of my guys.

[rpasell]

We NEED timesinks. We NEED something where people can log for 6 hours, not run a single quest and feel they acomplished something. Like crafting.

Think of other MMO's, they have content that has nothing to do with questing. And yes, some of you dont want gathering/crafting/travelling, but these are the things that keep a game alive. These are the things that people need. It creates a sense of realism. It bonds you with your character, it makes you feel that you are actually living in Eberron. Thats what people need/want. Give us housing, give us our own inns with PvP pits, give us THINGS that make us feel at home. Dont have me log in to be standing around the streets. Give us realism and I promise you the game will flourish.

We play these games to escape. At the moment the only escape is quests. Well, when you are done with those what else do you have?? Nothing. More quests. And what are you going to have when you add more quests? Nothing. More quests.

Turbine NEEDS TO NEEDS TO NEEDS TO implement some sort of timesink to the game that DOES NOT involve questing. Favor, raid loot, high-end loot, XP are all good, but they are all tied to the same thing, questing. Or you get tired of them. Crafting never ends. Gathering never ends.

You see what Im getting at?

...it's called Real Life. I play DDO to get away from the grind. The reason this game attracted me was because you don't have to do any of that tedious garbage other games require you to do. Log on, form group, adventure.

[Tavok]

I totally agree with people having and voicing their opinions.

In my opinion the DDO community can do without the negative gloom and doom that you bring about. The server merge is a good thing, you will see.

Obviously not all opinions then, so your first sentence is moot.

[WestiesMA]

I would like to see guild halls where we can have a guild bank and "park" our toons, gather for raids etc. I really am not interested in crafting, and I DEFINITELY don't want traveling. I can't stand getting to the desert quests let alone traveling 30 minutes ot each dungeon. The way TR/GH did it is perfect - run it the first time, then after that you can teleport!

[Opar]

One thing that hasn't been brought into this thread, but has been discussed many times that I think would do wonders. Randomization of things in the quests. Random trap placement, random chests, random mobs, etc.

Not that everything should just be completely random because then you break the quest designers vision of the quest, but some random elements in all new quests could go a long way towards making them more interesting to repeat.

[Deusxmachina]

Hence my extreme boredom now. I was a hardcore player. I have well over 2000 favor. I have much uber loot, I have played on risia, I have rolled and re-rolled toons, and I am a member of a fairly large and active guild.

Congratulations. You have beaten DDO.

I will say this: I don't play MMOs to solo things since it is the groups and people who help keep things interesting, and it's still usually easier to get a group together here than it is on the high-population WoW servers I've played on. Plus, real quests there are few and far between. A typical quest there is often only like one decent fight in DDO.

Still waiting for Turbine to do a package monthly deal on DDO and LoTRO. When people want big timesinks and to run around in a world, they can play LoTRO, when they want faster action, they can play DDO. Each game would help publicize the other, and with the games having different playstyles, they might wind up with a big piece of the market.

[Thrudh]

Congratulations. You have beaten DDO.

Exactly...

Take a break dude... You got your money's worth... Think about all the hours you've spent on this game... and all the fun you've had...

Now go take a break and play something else (or better yet, LEARN something new)... come back in a month or two...

I can't believe how many people are actually upset because a computer game is unable to keep them entertained for 6+ hours a day, EVERY DAY after a YEAR+ of playing.... Are you all insane? Every computer game has so many hours of playtime in it... Once you've done everything... you're done!!

Yes, MMOs are dynamic... new content gets added every so often... But NO team of developers can keep up with powergamers... It's impossible...

Sheesh... go play something else... go DO something else...

[Levit]

Exactly...

Take a break dude... You got your money's worth... Think about all the hours you've spent on this game... and all the fun you've had...

Now go take a break and play something else (or better yet, LEARN something new)... come back in a month or two...

I can't believe how many people are actually upset because a computer game is unable to keep them entertained for 6+ hours a day, EVERY DAY after a YEAR+ of playing.... Are you all insane? Every computer game has so many hours of playtime in it... Once you've done everything... you're done!!

Yes, MMOs are dynamic... new content gets added every so often... But NO team of developers can keep up with powergamers... It's impossible...

Sheesh... go play something else... go DO something else...

Let's face it leet guys. The game is over for you. No way content can satisfy your appetite. Step away, wait for the level raise, or even a couple of mod updates. You will have a fresh attitude.

Another thing, when you come back limit your playing time to different level toon. Play your newbies one day, mid levels another and caped guys on another.

I have a curse in RL. A horrible memory. It is a true blessing in this game. I don't remember a quest even if I run it like 10 times! Too many brain cells killed in college!

I love this game! I think that Turbine needs to spend more cash on marketing to get new players in. There is soooooo much content for a newbie to do. The problem is all the D and D guys have found this game and are either playing it or found it lacking and moved on. DDO needs to bring in non- D and D players to keep the game alive for the rest of us.

Let's hope this merger helps. I think we have a wonderful platform for the casual player to enjoy this game for years. Feel bad for you leets. Guess you will have to master something else.

Will miss ya! You can leave me your vorpals if you wish

[Allorious]

I'm sorry, I have to address something here because frankly I'm tired of seeing it. Please dont assume that because you can powerlevel and blow through content that someone is somehow missing out on another part of life. This comment is becoming more frequent when a poster wants to silence a power gamer. I have played this game well over a year now and I have completed every quest in the game on one toon or another. Its not my fault you cant, really I'm sorry. Let me tell you why...

I'm not a kid, I'm 40 years old. I have a wife and 3 younger children and I manage all of my life including this game the way I managed business. I retired at the age of 34, because I could and LIFE was no longer challenging. In a given day I swim, play games with my kids clean the house, cook dinner and spend time with my wife. We take trips, go to ball games and I take my kids to their respective spots games.

At night I play DDO for hours...why? Because I can. I require about 2 to 3 hours sleep a night. Other than that, I play. I'm sorry you cant, but I can.

I dont post that you are somehow inferior to me (other than this rant) because you cant, please dont assume my life is lacking or somehow inferior to yours.

This would be like my saying since you cant run all the content quickly then you're a poor player. Since you have to take time away from the game you are a poor time manager. Sleep less, play more. If you cant its because you are weak and inferior.

Now, that being said, I love this game. I have taken the time to travel and meet several of the people I play with in person and have dinner to get to know them better. Please, just enjoy the game. I'm bored with it and could use a little random action in the dungeons, but I play for the people.

I'm done, enough said.

[MrRotten]

I'm sorry, I have to address something here because frankly I'm tired of seeing it. Please dont assume that because you can powerlevel and blow through content that someone is somehow missing out on another part of life. This comment is becoming more frequent when a poster wants to silence a power gamer. I have played this game well over a year now and I have completed every quest in the game on one toon or another. Its not my fault you cant, really I'm sorry. Let me tell you why...

I'm not a kid, I'm 40 years old. I have a wife and 3 younger children and I manage all of my life including this game the way I managed business. I retired at the age of 34, because I could and LIFE was no longer challenging. In a given day I swim, play games with my kids clean the house, cook dinner and spend time with my wife. We take trips, go to ball games and I take my kids to their respective spots games.

At night I play DDO for hours...why? Because I can. I require about 2 to 3 hours sleep a night. Other than that, I play. I'm sorry you cant, but I can.

I dont post that you are somehow inferior to me (other than this rant) because you cant, please dont assume my life is lacking or somehow inferior to yours.

This would be like my saying since you cant run all the content quickly then you're a poor player. Since you have to take time away from the game you are a poor time manager. Sleep less, play more. If you cant its because you are weak and inferior.

Now, that being said, I love this game. I have taken the time to travel and meet several of the people I play with in person and have dinner to get to know them better. Please, just enjoy the game. I'm bored with it and could use a little random action in the dungeons, but I play for the people.

I'm done, enough said.

/signed

I look at my play style as somewhat a power leveler/gamer, I can admit that. Although I do the favors and I do enjoy every bit of content this game does have to offer. I honestly love DDO, think its great.

I can admit to being somewhat of a power gamer as the previous poster mentioned and still can agree pretty much 100% what he said.

Although in another post I said that Turbine could introduce a few more content pieces to give power gamers or even casual gamers more options. Thats all i'm saying.. You have to keep in mind when you're developing an MMO that you want to appeal to the masses and also maybe even entice people to try things they would normally not try in your game.

I for one would warn turbine to not go overboard with any new implamentation of some additional content/options for if you do, then you bring in all the farmers and kiddies. One reason I really enjoy DDO is the maturity (Atleast on Sarlona) that this game seems to bring to the table. You don't find alot of ignorant little kids and immature mentality people in this game.

So any additional things that are added, keep it simple, don't take anything away from the core part of the game.. Don't change how quests are setup, don't change how you travel. And god, don't change the combat system. Just add something like a small crafting engine, maybe using those useless gems or even those collectables. Or shoot, even make it more rewarding to collect collectables. That would maybe even work. Just something that is basically never ending, something thats going to take alot of time to finish. So you can cap a toon in a week or a year, but wether your capped or not, you're still progessing in something.

So power levelers, power gamers, casual players or not... All i'm asking is stick more OPTIONs in the game to appease everyone. Don't force us to make decisions that we NEED to craft (IE: Some games do crafting, and to get some of the best items in game you have to craft. DUMB) i'm sure there someone out there thats getting payed to come up with ideas that could introduce something thats not going to change the game, but give us some new options and things to do that both power gamers and casual people can enjoy and get satisfaction out of.

[LogannX]

Well you arent ever going to find yourself a game that will occupy you the way you desire. The worst thing thats come out of the mmorpg evolution is the hardcore gamers who live their games. Yes this is a criticism of powergamers. Your demands are unreasonable and unreachable. Im even a little shocked for you coming out of SWG where the game had almost no creative content whatsoever. DDO is jammed with it and more is added regularly. Yes its spread out over levels but thats the curse of a game that has levels. I used to think different playstyles didn't matter much but powergamers really are grief for any game and any non powergamer. They make the game a lot less fun when you find yourself in their groups, and jam the forums with laughable ranting and whining. In the end its great for a game to lose as many as possible.
Hey I get bored sometimes but its not the games fault it's mine for running PoP too many times in a day. I sit back shut off the comp and go for a run. Take a day off hang with the wife and bam its fun again.

[Tallyn]

I cant believe someone even speaks SWG and DDO in the same breath. SWG BETRAYED their customers, seemingly intentionally. Changing the game mechanics SO radically without even consulting their player base, alienated so many players. I know MMO players who will not support any SOE endeavor from now on because of SWG. Also SWG seemingly betrayed some of their employees who left their employ.



DDO's team is way better than SWG's team, the only fault they may have is not having enough content out there for us, but it's improving all the time. Add in crafting and guild housing and I will continue to play DDO for a LONG time.