What's the Current State of Hand and a Half Feats?

[Kodwraith]

I'm about to re-roll into a Fighter/Monk/Sacred Fist hybrid and was looking to use my large collections of Bastard Swords since I'l be rolling a PDK. Since I'm an 8 fighter, GSword is also an option, but it's much harder to pick up favored weapon until 23 whereas Tyr I get at 1. As such I started looking at feats and trying to plan.

I can't use shield since I'm centered. Of all the threads I can find, the consensus seemed to be that for BSword use, the 2HF line was more damage than the SWF line assuming the full number of mobs is present to be struckthrough. Has this changed with the addition of the legendary feats at 31? I'm assuming the regular SWF and 2HF feats are still exclusive. Does Leg2HF feat granted even stack with SWF?

[ahpook]

I can't use shield since I'm centered.

Can you stay centered wielding a Bsword? I didn't see anything indicating that favored weapons keep you centered. I may have been pointlessly dipping into Vistani for centering with my dagger SF when I could just grab Vol diety to get the benefit.

[unbongwah]

Since I'm an 8 fighter, GSword is also an option, but it's much harder to pick up favored weapon until 23 whereas Tyr I get at 1.

I thought Sacred Fist was stuck with Follower of The Path of Light (handwraps) unless you splash a different divine class first, which your build does not.

Can you stay centered wielding a Bsword?

OP is staying centered due to Kensei's One with the Blade: "Your melee Focus weapons are considered Centering."

[misterski]

I'm about to re-roll into a Fighter/Monk/Sacred Fist hybrid and was looking to use my large collections of Bastard Swords since I'l be rolling a PDK. Since I'm an 8 fighter, GSword is also an option, but it's much harder to pick up favored weapon until 23 whereas Tyr I get at 1. As such I started looking at feats and trying to plan.

I can't use shield since I'm centered. Of all the threads I can find, the consensus seemed to be that for BSword use, the 2HF line was more damage than the SWF line assuming the full number of mobs is present to be struckthrough. Has this changed with the addition of the legendary feats at 31? I'm assuming the regular SWF and 2HF feats are still exclusive. Does Leg2HF feat granted even stack with SWF?

The legendary feats work best with bastard swords or dwarven axes. You can take the 2hf feats while leveling and then take the legendary SWF feat at 31 (or vice versa) and get the benefits of both (stat bonuses don't stack).

Also Sacred Fists are autogranted the Path of Light deity feat at level 1, you won't be able to choose another deity.

[Kodwraith]

The legendary feats work best with bastard swords or dwarven axes. You can take the 2hf feats while leveling and then take the legendary SWF feat at 31 (or vice versa) and get the benefits of both (stat bonuses don't stack).

Also Sacred Fists are autogranted the Path of Light deity feat at level 1, you won't be able to choose another deity.

Correct. Favored Weapon kicks in at 23 when I pick up Helm/Tyr as honorary diety. I'd be getting centered from Kensai T5. Right now I'm running 1 FV/3 monk/16SF as WSS, but I need a fighter life. My question is what stacks with what between SWF and 2HF with BSwords. From Pally lives, I know the SM and THF lines stack.

And I can't alas be a 1 Fvs, 2 Monk, 9 fighter, 8 SF which is what I really wanted. There didn't seem to be any way I could find to have a weapon both centered and favored outside of HWs, longsword, dagger, shortsword and staff.

So I've been debating Sacred Fist vs. regular Pally. Regular FR Pally gets the proficiency and favored weapon much earlier, but is much less optimal for defenses since you loose all the SF centered defensive abilities. The current level split plan is PDK: 8 fighter / 6 monk / 6 SF. I'd be wielding a not-yet-favored-weapon from 15->23 but I would at least be centered.

Alternatively, Regular pally and GSword opens up some interesting options since you get Favored GS from T4 KotC, but at that point I might as well just armor up and ditch monk. I've run SWF pally before with BSword and it's fun. The spin attacks in SF seem a better synergy for monk style play. If I go GSword, It probably a 8 fighter 6 regular pally 6 monk.

(I totally get this is a flavor jedi style build. I really just needed a fighter life and a PDK life and happen to have a large BSword collection)

[unbongwah]

You can take the 2hf feats while leveling and then take the legendary SWF feat at 31 (or vice versa) and get the benefits of both (stat bonuses don't stack).

I think it's better to take the heroic SWF feats so you can also take Offhand Versatility and Perfect SWF (both of which requires SWF feat) while leveling. Then you can take Perfect THF (doesn't require THF feat) and Two Handed Specialty at level 31 for +150% Strikethrough.

Though obviously this presumes an endgame build which wants the best of SWF+THF for bastard swords. If it's just an ITR life, it's not so relevant.

[Umbra_Carmen]

Apologies if slightly off topic - also (but strange build for CHA Monk) Eidolon of the Shadow

[Arkat]

I think it's better to take the heroic SWF feats so you can also take Offhand Versatility and Perfect SWF (both of which requires SWF feat) while leveling. Then you can take Perfect THF (doesn't require THF feat) and Two Handed Specialty at level 31 for +150% Strikethrough.

Yes