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    Does No Mercy stack with Brutality?

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    Also add in bully from ravenger ... You have 30% + 20 % + 15% ... And in epics add sense weakness ... Total helpless dps build ... Now just figure out how to make mobs helpless on a barb/rogue. It's doable I suppose ... I wonder if Gxbow counts as two handed weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlorrd View Post
    Also add in bully from ravenger ... You have 30% + 20 % + 15% ... And in epics add sense weakness ... Total helpless dps build ... Now just figure out how to make mobs helpless on a barb/rogue. It's doable I suppose ... I wonder if Gxbow counts as two handed weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlorrd View Post
    Also add in bully from ravenger ... You have 30% + 20 % + 15% ... And in epics add sense weakness ... Total helpless dps build ... Now just figure out how to make mobs helpless on a barb/rogue. It's doable I suppose ... I wonder if Gxbow counts as two handed weapon.
    What about Dire Charge?
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    Well, balanced attacks procs helplessness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amundir View Post
    Soooooo........... yes?
    It should--anyone tested it?
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    We'll for sure TA No mercy stacks with sense weakness ... That I tested.

    Haven't don't the half-orc part yet, but will try at some point here. Question also will be if both no Mercy's from Monk/rogue stack. That would be tasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlorrd View Post
    We'll for sure TA No mercy stacks with sense weakness ... That I tested.

    Haven't don't the half-orc part yet, but will try at some point here. Question also will be if both no Mercy's from Monk/rogue stack. That would be tasty.
    Don't forget about combat brute in dread. That's another 50% with an action boost going.

    I'm totally unsure about both no mercy stacking. I have a toon with enough levels in both so I'll test it tomorrow to see. Personally i can't see running both on a build, only because trying to fit them might be a nightmare. Maybe a dual wield shortsword build at best. Then you could use balanced attacks but lose out on brutality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmanis View Post
    Don't forget about combat brute in dread. That's another 50% with an action boost going.

    I'm totally unsure about both no mercy stacking. I have a toon with enough levels in both so I'll test it tomorrow to see. Personally i can't see running both on a build, only because trying to fit them might be a nightmare. Maybe a dual wield shortsword build at best. Then you could use balanced attacks but lose out on brutality.
    yeah will definitly be interested in those results ... have a build or two in mind to maximize that if it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlorrd View Post
    yeah will definitly be interested in those results ... have a build or two in mind to maximize that if it works.
    I've legit been thinking of a dual wield brush hook build since I posted this. It's a 13 Rogue 6 monk 1 fighter pdk currently that I've parked, might need some love. But the wiki is weird because it's saying deadly striker is a thing but the pic of the enhancement tree shows it isn't.

    Does the haste boost from dread use the same charges as normal haste boost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmanis View Post
    Does the haste boost from dread use the same charges as normal haste boost?
    Unfortunately yes it does. Both the melee/ranged power action boost uses the same charges as LD damage boost and the haste boost counters share the same charges. Would be nice if they didn't. However, the silver lining at least is if you take it in enhancements or vice versa, you have those extra APs or ED APs to spend elsewhere or may save you a twist if you're not in LD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlorrd View Post
    yeah will definitly be interested in those results ... have a build or two in mind to maximize that if it works.
    Using one locks out access to the other. No fun at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmanis View Post
    Using one locks out access to the other. No fun at all.
    Probably the same with leg shot from mechanic and DWS tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlorrd View Post
    Probably the same with leg shot from mechanic and DWS tree.
    Seems it. Ruins my idea of a 13/6/1 brush hook rogue. Probably would have sucked in reaper anyway.

    Still a decent build though. Just get more out of assassin than the dual no mercy design. Might go for it if I'm feeling froggy since i have a heart and a toon i don't play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmanis View Post
    Maybe a dual wield shortsword build at best. Then you could use balanced attacks but lose out on brutality.
    I was actually using epic envenomed blades with ruby of endless night for high skull reaper epics at cap.
    Balanced attacks + paralyze coupled with high attack rate provides great CC. And neg levels only scale better the more skulls you add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eth View Post
    I was actually using epic envenomed blades with ruby of endless night for high skull reaper epics at cap.
    Balanced attacks + paralyze coupled with high attack rate provides great CC. And neg levels only scale better the more skulls you add.
    So an ultra dex/dodge build whose attacks focus on cc and single target damage.

    Yep, that toon is getting an LR.
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