What slot for a torc?

[Kaisheng21]

Found here. Going to be doing a lot of TRing, what slot might be good?

EDIT: lol, always get torc and conc. op. mixed up.

[J1NG]

Torc will only ever go into the Necklace slot. No two ways about it.

Con-Op (Concordant Opposition) items however, I personally favour the goggles slot. As there's not a lot of gear that often goes into there for caster types. And for melee, you won't be using it anyway. So that's why I place my Con-Op there.

J1NG

[Connman]

I have to disagree on the goggles slot for con-op. I have been using a lot of Spell focus (level 10-16), insightful spell focus (10-22), insightful spell pen (10-22) goggles lately. Made from the new CC. I make it at level 10 and roll it all the way to 20.

http://ccplanner.byethost14.com/?i=1.

[Cantor]

I have to disagree on the goggles slot for con-op. I have been using a lot of Spell focus (level 10-16), insightful spell focus (10-22), insightful spell pen (10-22) goggles lately. Made from the new CC. I make it at level 10 and roll it all the way to 20.

http://ccplanner.byethost14.com/?i=1.

Agree, I was going to point out the same thing. Helm is also out and cloak for stats. I'm leaning toward boots.

[Kaisheng21]

Butbutbut... speed 30% + ff boots...

[SirValentine]

Butbutbut... speed 30% + ff boots...

Ideally, you put 30% striding on your Quiver slot.

[Kaisheng21]

Huh. You can get augment slots on your quiver?

[SerPounce]

Huh. You can get augment slots on your quiver?

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Quiver_of_Alacrity

Everyone who was playing during the 10 year anniversary got one free. Can wear from lvl 1 on. It's all but impossible to obtain in the game now (it's rare raid loot from a raid that is very rarely run and impractical to solo).

All part of the system to make sure no one ever catches up.

[Lynnabel]

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Quiver_of_Alacrity

Everyone who was playing during the 10 year anniversary got one free. Can wear from lvl 1 on. It's all but impossible to obtain in the game now.

I actually pulled mine from Abbot myself* around two months ago. It was intensely satisfying. There was a discussion in the office earlier today about tweaking the flagging mechanic of Ascension Chamber to something similar to the Titan Raid, where you just need to hold on to the full sigil forever - rather than collecting 8 new sigil parts per life. The Sigil itself would just be granted by the NPC once you run all the quests, and as long as you have one on you, you can skip doing Necro 4 and just hop right into Litany itself.

Revisiting old, amazing content like that is something I think we're more interested in now that we have some more room to play around, and fighting the Abbot remains one of my favorite experiences in DDO to date. I know there are some groups on some servers that run it every few days with the same group, too, so ask around and maybe set up a rotation if you find other people hunting the same loot. If you ever get the chance to step inside Ascension Chamber, do it - it's one of the best raids in the game.

*A friend passed it to me after 14 long runs, but still, same thing :P

[vryxnr]

...

Revisiting old, amazing content like that is something I think we're more interested in now that we have some more room to play around, ...

*very deep breath in*

YAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!!!!!

[Enerdhil]

There was a discussion in the office earlier today about tweaking the flagging mechanic of Ascension Chamber

Don't forget about SoS. ;P

[Lynnabel]

Don't forget about SoS. ;P

I would love to forget about SoS.

[J1NG]

Well, my personal preference for the goggles, is because I built them back in 09, and have kept them ever since in that slot, as there has never been anything more useful in that slot until more recently. I also run in family group runs through TRs (also, since 09), which means we plow through things, so DC was never really something we considered much about. Old habbits die hard I guess. Forgot to mention that this was my style of play for it (which is basically more than a couple of years out of date in terms of efficiency )

@Lynnabel

I like the sound of that, will certainly get more people at least flagging and then more easily joining in on old Abbot runs.

Quick bug check throw: Can you have a look at the Devour the Soul SLA for Warlocks? Why is it functioning as a Conjuration spell that increases DC via Necromancy boosts? Never quite understood that.

J1NG

[LeoLionxxx]

*SNIP*

There was a discussion in the office earlier today about tweaking the flagging mechanic of Ascension Chamber to something similar to the Titan Raid, where you just need to hold on to the full sigil forever - rather than collecting 8 new sigil parts per life. The Sigil itself would just be granted by the NPC once you run all the quests, and as long as you have one on you, you can skip doing Necro 4 and just hop right into Litany itself.

YES YES PLEASE YES PLEASE PLEASE YES PLEASE.

The fact that you use up the sigil is the main reason I've never run the raid.

IMO, requiring players to collect and trade the sigil pieces is okay as a rewarding flagging mechanic if the sigil is then made permanent.

[CThruTheEgo]

There was a discussion in the office earlier today about tweaking the flagging mechanic of Ascension Chamber to something similar to the Titan Raid, where you just need to hold on to the full sigil forever - rather than collecting 8 new sigil parts per life. The Sigil itself would just be granted by the NPC once you run all the quests, and as long as you have one on you, you can skip doing Necro 4 and just hop right into Litany itself.

Revisiting old, amazing content like that is something I think we're more interested in now that we have some more room to play around

And there was much rejoicing.

I would love to forget about SoS.

I was really beginning to like you.

That quest is awesome, but the flagging is the most ridiculous of them all because you have to re-flag every single time you want to run it. Please don't forget about this one.

[LrdSlvrhnd]

I actually pulled mine from Abbot myself* around two months ago. It was intensely satisfying. There was a discussion in the office earlier today about tweaking the flagging mechanic of Ascension Chamber to something similar to the Titan Raid, where you just need to hold on to the full sigil forever - rather than collecting 8 new sigil parts per life. The Sigil itself would just be granted by the NPC once you run all the quests, and as long as you have one on you, you can skip doing Necro 4 and just hop right into Litany itself.

Revisiting old, amazing content like that is something I think we're more interested in now that we have some more room to play around, and fighting the Abbot remains one of my favorite experiences in DDO to date. I know there are some groups on some servers that run it every few days with the same group, too, so ask around and maybe set up a rotation if you find other people hunting the same loot. If you ever get the chance to step inside Ascension Chamber, do it - it's one of the best raids in the game.

*A friend passed it to me after 14 long runs, but still, same thing :P

While getting rid of the sigil is awesomesauce (especially considering I farmed up a sigil in preparation for my next life when I was about to TR, and accidentally turned it in...) I think part of the problem is also having to run Litany 4 times to flag. That's just ridiculous. Much better would be making it longer and, instead of porting out to the wildy to collect the whatever at the end, collecting the whatever at the end of each section and then getting ported back to the start to run the next side. And once you have all four, you get sent back to the start one final time, talk to the dragon one final time, and *that's* when the quest ends, and you're flagged for Abbot.

[TDarkchylde]

While getting rid of the sigil is awesomesauce (especially considering I farmed up a sigil in preparation for my next life when I was about to TR, and accidentally turned it in...) I think part of the problem is also having to run Litany 4 times to flag. That's just ridiculous. Much better would be making it longer and, instead of porting out to the wildy to collect the whatever at the end, collecting the whatever at the end of each section and then getting ported back to the start to run the next side. And once you have all four, you get sent back to the start one final time, talk to the dragon one final time, and *that's* when the quest ends, and you're flagged for Abbot.

Honestly, I could deal with one or the other - collect the sigil OR run Litany 4x with bosses. Most lives I don't even bother to flag, despite there being weekly guild runs of Abbot, simply because the flagging is way too onerous for a no-longer-endgame raid.

I do like the idea of making Litany self-contained so one only has to run it once, but still get all four bosses. But at this rate, I worry about spaghetti code being a huge impediment. It may simply not be doable this far along.

As to OP, if I'm not bothering with DCs on my Conc-Opp user, goggles it is. If I am, then boots. Striding can be crafted onto a ring or put onto an augment, even if it's a bit harder to get than some of the other "staple" yellow augments.

[Ebondevil]

I actually pulled mine from Abbot myself* around two months ago. It was intensely satisfying. There was a discussion in the office earlier today about tweaking the flagging mechanic of Ascension Chamber to something similar to the Titan Raid, where you just need to hold on to the full sigil forever - rather than collecting 8 new sigil parts per life. The Sigil itself would just be granted by the NPC once you run all the quests, and as long as you have one on you, you can skip doing Necro 4 and just hop right into Litany itself.

Revisiting old, amazing content like that is something I think we're more interested in now that we have some more room to play around, and fighting the Abbot remains one of my favorite experiences in DDO to date. I know there are some groups on some servers that run it every few days with the same group, too, so ask around and maybe set up a rotation if you find other people hunting the same loot. If you ever get the chance to step inside Ascension Chamber, do it - it's one of the best raids in the game.

*A friend passed it to me after 14 long runs, but still, same thing :P

I think I finally collected a complete Sigil on my Main Characters 6th Life, probably be a few more until my Alt gets one, he's a few lives behind.

I thought once you got the Sigil that was it, now I have no intention of even stepping foot inside it if my Sigil's going to vanish...

I think I'd rather Wedgie the Lady of Pain

[Saekee]

so did Lynnabel derail? hah

[NytCrawlr]

I would love to forget about SoS.

Not to get political, but I'm with her.