Do Paralyzing Arrows still paralyze?

[redoubt]

From the release notes:

Paralyzing Arrows give 3 seconds of -10% Movement and Attack Speed on a failed Saving Throw.

[jalont]

Probably just a typo. I would assume we'd seem people complaining if this was the case on Lam. I think failed should be made.

[Vargouille]

This is probably my mistake in sending release notes to Cordovan.

This is the full description of Paralyzing Arrows as of Update 28 Patch 1.

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Arcane Archer Imbue Toggle: You imbue your arrows with paralyzing force. On Hit: Target is paralyzed. (Will save vs. DC 20 + Wisdom Modifier + Enchantment Spell Bonuses) On Save: -10% Movement and Attack Speed

Passive: +1 bonus to DC of Enchantment Spells

[Thar]

This is probably my mistake in sending release notes to Cordovan.

This is the full description of Paralyzing Arrows as of Update 28 Patch 1.

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Arcane Archer Imbue Toggle: You imbue your arrows with paralyzing force. On Hit: Target is paralyzed. (Will save vs. DC 20 + Wisdom Modifier + Enchantment Spell Bonuses) On Save: -10% Movement and Attack Speed

Passive: +1 bonus to DC of Enchantment Spells

So what would you need in epics for this to work? 60s?

[Hobgoblin]

So what would you need in epics for this to work? 60s?

its better then it was - but still feels like it was before - only fail on a 1.

however on my pure monk archer (wis based)

I had around a 55 ish and things were getting stopped pretty well.

[Vulkoorex]

So now Arcane Archers have to be monk or cleric (wis based) for them to be a viable build?

[JOTMON]

So what would you need in epics for this to work? 60s?

The mob to roll a '1'

[Ykt]

(Will save vs. DC 20 + Wisdom Modifier + Enchantment Spell Bonuses)

ARCANE archer ... Wisdom modifier ...

Monkchers have a clean butt now.

[grausherra]

At least people had a whole 2 days to test it on Llamania.

[FestusHood]

So what would you need in epics for this to work? 60s?

A friend of mine who plays a swashbuckler respec'd to a spellsinger to test it out. Just by changing enhancements and gear he was able to reach exactly a 60 enchantment dc. We went into epic elite stormhorns. My estimate would be that his dancing ball spell had a success rate of about 85%.

[unbongwah]

So now Arcane Archers have to be monk or cleric (wis based) for them to be a viable build?

You have to be WIS-based if you want good DCs with these imbues. But remember, you can still only have one primary imbue active at a time. So you could decide to ditch WIS and stick with the DPS imbues and ignore the CC effects entirely. It's a build choice as to what's most important to you.

Furthermore, remember before this patch Paralyzing Arrow DC capped at 26; so even if you have a modest WIS score of 22, you're still no worse off than you were before this patch. But now WIS-based AAs might actually be capable of consistent CC.

[Vulkoorex]

Gnomes are coming. Maybe they will be Wis based. So we will see a throng of Gnome Monk Arcane Archers.

[xberto]

The mob to roll a '1'

Do the mobs roll a save for each doubleshot arrow as well? In my mind, even if you dump wisdom, it seems like success on a 1 (5%) isn't so bad, considering the volume of arrows a dedicated archer can put in the air. With focus on the DPS side and paralyzing as a kicker, should be good fun. I'm liking the changes I'm seeing in the AA tree and can;t wait to test them in action.

[patang01]

This is probably my mistake in sending release notes to Cordovan.

This is the full description of Paralyzing Arrows as of Update 28 Patch 1.

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Arcane Archer Imbue Toggle: You imbue your arrows with paralyzing force. On Hit: Target is paralyzed. (Will save vs. DC 20 + Wisdom Modifier + Enchantment Spell Bonuses) On Save: -10% Movement and Attack Speed

Passive: +1 bonus to DC of Enchantment Spells

So a paralyzing arrow will always slow regardless? Neat.

[Thar]

Do the mobs roll a save for each doubleshot arrow as well? In my mind, even if you dump wisdom, it seems like success on a 1 (5%) isn't so bad, considering the volume of arrows a dedicated archer can put in the air. With focus on the DPS side and paralyzing as a kicker, should be good fun. I'm liking the changes I'm seeing in the AA tree and can;t wait to test them in action.

the issue before was they would then save in a second or two and break the paralize. so fail on a 1 wasn't too useful. it sounds like for ranger it still isn't.

[alancarp]

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Arcane Archer Imbue Toggle: You imbue your arrows with paralyzing force. On Hit: Target is paralyzed. (Will save vs. DC 20 + Wisdom Modifier + Enchantment Spell Bonuses) On Save: -10% Movement and Attack Speed

Passive: +1 bonus to DC of Enchantment Spells

Boy, I know it's never been this way, but it so much _feels_ like that oughta be a Dexterity-based DC score instead of Wisdom.

[xberto]

the issue before was they would then save in a second or two and break the paralize. so fail on a 1 wasn't too useful. it sounds like for ranger it still isn't.

Fortunately for me, there is enough fine players on Sarlona that a second or 2 is all it take for that paralyzed mob to be dead

[Ykt]

Boy, I know it's never been this way, but it so much _feels_ like that oughta be a Dexterity-based DC score instead of Wisdom.

Deepwood Sniper is the Dex-based tree.
Arcane Archer should be Wis & Int -based. It's arcane.

[redoubt]

Deepwood Sniper is the Dex-based tree.
Arcane Archer should be Wis & Int -based. It's arcane.

If you get AA from ranger it should use Wisdom.

If you get AA from elf it should use INT or CHA.

[Bluenoser]

If you get AA from ranger it should use Wisdom.

If you get AA from elf it should use INT or CHA.

I'd rather see a multiselector for Wis/Int regardless of your race, to allow this tree to work for someone other than monkchers or divine-based archers. God knows, no pure ranger (let alone a ranger-rogue) would ever put that much investment into Wis, especially with the Harper tree's Know the Angles as an option.