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  1. #1
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    Default CHA Based drow SS/SB Critique

    I've been away from the game for a bit and haven't played with the updated Bard trees. Any advise?

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    Level 28 Neutral Good Drow Male
    (20 Bard \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 306
    Spell Points: 858 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 9
    Reflex: 21
    Will: 13
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             10                    13
    Dexterity            16                    21
    Constitution         12                    16
    Intelligence         12                    15
    Wisdom               10                    13
    Charisma             18                    36
    
    Tomes Used
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 20
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 20
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 20
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Single Weapon Fighting
    Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Feather Fall
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Precision
    Spell (1): Focusing Chant
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Spell (2): Blur
    Spell (2): Heroism
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
    Spell (2): Rage
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Spell (2): Invisibility
    Spell (3): Displacement
    Spell (3): Haste
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Spell (3): Good Hope
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
    Spell (4): Dimension Door
    Spell (3): Remove Curse
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Spell (5): Greater Heroism
    Spell (5): Shadow Walk
    Spell (4): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Spell (5): Mind Fog
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Spell (6): Otto's Irresistible Dance
    Spell (6): Greater Shout
    Spell (5): Greater Dispel Magic
    Spell (1): Master's Touch
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Spell (2): Hypnotic Pattern
    Spell (6): Heroes Feast
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Spell (3): Crushing Despair
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
    Spell (6): Mass Charm Monster
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Spell (5): Mass Suggestion
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Lasting Inspiration
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Great Charisma
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Forced Escape
    Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Drow Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Drow Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spellsinger (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Haunting Melody (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charlatan (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charlatan (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Suggestion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Yellow Marigold Crown (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Enthrallment (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Shout (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Song Trance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Swashbuckling (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Uncanny Dodge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Panache (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Roll with the Punches (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Evasive Maneuvers (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Tavern Shanties (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Tavern Shanties (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Tavern Shanties (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Deflect Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Fast Movement (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Elegant Footwork (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Dashing Scoundrel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Smooth Flourishes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Slap in the Face (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Thread the Needle (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Coupe De Grace (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Second Skin (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Second Skin (Rank 2)
    Last edited by junta64; 06-03-2015 at 02:18 AM.

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    Since you didn't list your Enhancements or spells, I'm not sure what you want to accomplish here. So instead I'll just point you at the Count of MC.
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    Been a while since I used the character generator it would seem. Edited now.

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    +3 tomes apply at level 11, not 20 (+1 at 3, +2 at 7 and +3 at 11)

    A 12 CON is really going to hurt you in Epics. Trade in a bit of Dex for more HP (you can make up for the loss reflex save points with items and Swashbuckler enhancements).

    Take Freedom of Movement as soon as you can so Take D Door and FoM at 10 and Cure Critical at 11. Neutralize Poison, isn't a good spell as you can buy potions for it.

    Epic feats...You should look at Perfect Two Weapon fighting as a bonus to Doublestrike.

    Shield Mastery line works very nicely if you are using a Buckler. I would recommend going with that over Extend and Improved Shield Mastery over Great Charisma (a feat for +1 CHA doesn't make much sense). This will allow you to twist in Legendary Shield Mastery for even more doublestrike

    If you only get one metamagic feat I really recommend Quicken, because you will need that cure to go off and with Heal Amp and Devotion spell power (rework your spellsinger Enhancements to get more of the core abilities +2% positive critical chance per core after first is very nice), you won't miss it; however you'll regret not having Quicken when your Concentration can't overcome a champion doublestrike.

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