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    Default Half-Orc TWF Occult Slayer with Ravager Splash

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    Level 21 Chaotic Good Half-Orc Male
    (20 Barbarian \ 1 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 404
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 19
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 21)
    Strength             20                    28
    Dexterity            15                    18
    Constitution         16                    23
    Intelligence          6                     9
    Wisdom                8                    11
    Charisma              6                     9
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 21)
    Balance               2                     5
    Bluff                -2                     0
    Concentration         3                     7
    Diplomacy            -2                     0
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle               -2                     0
    Heal                 -1                     1
    Hide                  2                     5
    Intimidate           -2                    13
    Jump                  9                    33
    Listen               -1                     1
    Move Silently         2                     5
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                    n/a
    Repair               -2                     0
    Search               -2                     0
    Spellcraft           -2                     0
    Spot                 -1                     1
    Swim                  9                    33
    Tumble                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a
    
    Level 1 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Weapon Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Travel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Kinetic Bond (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Travel (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Kinetic Bond (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 6 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Elemental Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Travel (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Kinetic Bond (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Arcane Encumbrance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Bond of Retribution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Viscious Strike (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Arcane Encumbrance (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Arcane Encumbrance (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Viscious Strike (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Nature (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Nature (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Viscious Strike (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Nature (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 12 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Blank Thoughts (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Bond of Destruction (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Vampiric Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Vampiric Bond (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Vampiric Bond (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Cold Iron Bond (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Hate (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Toughness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Toughness (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Pain Touch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Hate (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Mutilate (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Mutilate (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Demoralizing Success (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Hate (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Mutilate (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Slaughter (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Slaughter (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Pain Touch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Force Ward (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Slaughter (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Laughter (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Subsiding Fury (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Do You Like Pain? (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - I Like Pain (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Mind Over Magic (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

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    Default Only level 21

    This is my current build i am working on Ghallanda on my first life TR. I only have +3 tomes. I'm only on a hero build. I'm hoping to do much better in epic questing than a necromancer adventurer build did in the past life.

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    Default Slightly out of date

    the actual build will have the same style but all of the core enhancements in half orc will also be there and the ravager and occult slayer will be slightly different

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    basics look solid - am sure if you had 32 point you would up CON. Keep playing around with the enhancements until you find the right mix to suit your style.

    Uurlock is currently doing the Ozymoronic Barbarian build (link in sig) and is solid (albeit some of that is past lives and gear).

    Have fun!

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    Default New Update!

    Barb Ravage Slayer
    Barbarian 20, Epic 1
    Chaotic Good Half-Orc


    Stats
    . . . . . . . .34pt . . Tome . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . --------
    Strength. . . . 20. . . .+3. . . .4: STR
    Dexterity . . . 15. . . .+3. . . .8: STR
    Constitution. . 16. . . .+3. . . 12: STR
    Intelligence. . .6. . . .+3. . . 16: STR
    Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+3. . . 20: STR
    Charisma. . . . .6. . . .+3. . .



    Skills
    . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Jump. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Swim. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Intim . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 14
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . . 8. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3
    . . . . . 8. 2. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Power Attack
    .3. . . . : Two Weapon Fighting
    .6. . . . : Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    .9. . . . : Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
    12. . . . : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    15. . . . : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    18. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing
    21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical


    Enhancements (80 AP) - Errors

    Half-Orc (5 AP)
    • Orcish Fury, Orcish Strength, Orcish Fury II, Orcish Strength II, Orcish Fury III

    Ravager (41 AP)
    • Furious Rage, Pain Touch, Demoralizing Success, Pain Touch II, Subsiding Fury, Visage of Terror
      1. Ritual Scarring III, Hate III, Barbarian Power Attack III, Hardy Rage III
      2. Fear Me!, Mutilate III
      3. Aura of Fear III, Slaughter III, Strength
      4. Laughter, Strength
      5. Uncanny Balance, Critical Rage II

    Occult Slayer (34 AP)
    • Weapon Bond, Resistance, Elemental Defense, Blank Thoughts, Force Ward
      1. Extend Rage III, Parrying Bond III, Uncanny Dodger I
      2. Guarding Bond III, Lessons of Travel III
      3. Arcane Encumberance III, Kinetic Bond III, Constitution
      4. Vicious Strike III, Constitution

    the enhancements are slightly off due to miscalculations in the builder but all the choices will be the same if not one or two different

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    looking good - but why no tier 5 Blood Strength: Each time you land a hit there is a 12% chance you heal positive damage equal to your Barbarian level. Each time you kill an opponent you are healed for 20 hit points. This healing scales with 100% Melee Power?

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    Like i said the AP is off on the builder so a little bit is different. that much is for sure in the build that's the main reason why i'm switching over to ravager.

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    ....wha?...whut?.....swim, intimidate??????

    Oversized Two Weapon Fighting????????????
    since when do barbarians have a problem hitting things?

    Why not umd? (utility spells&buffs outside of rage/combat)
    Why not heal (consecrated ground)
    Why not spot, haggle. anything but swim.
    Why intimidate? are you tanking? having trouble to keep agro? can you reach intimidate numbers high enough to pull mobs away or reach quest objectives to begin with?

    why orcish fury 3? are you expecting to be around 1-39% hp a lot to justify the enh point? it is just a +2 str modifier
    No melee power boost????
    i don't know how other people play their barbs but stuff usually doesn't live long enough for stuff like Viscious Strike to make an actual impact

    34 ap is not a splash anymore, is force ward worth it? all i get at high levels is chain missiles, the 5% Competence bonus to entirely avoid incoming Force damage doesn't look that hot
    Aren't you (dps wise) better of with FB?

    Why half orc in general, the character modle looks cool for a barb but if all you take is str aren't you better of with human?
    Extra feat and skill points, damage boost that stacks with melee power boost (or haste boost if you use LD/twist it) all sounds better then half orc
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    I play a guy with a two-hander not just in this game, but in every game that has 'em.
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    Not to derail the thread, but then can you make 2hf NOT suck so much compared to 2wf or swf?
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    8 pages in, that train has already sailed. The dead horse is canned into cat food by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyrecono View Post
    ....wha?...whut?.....swim, intimidate??????

    Oversized Two Weapon Fighting????????????
    since when do barbarians have a problem hitting things?

    Why not umd? (utility spells&buffs outside of rage/combat)
    Why not heal (consecrated ground)
    Why not spot, haggle. anything but swim.
    Why intimidate? are you tanking? having trouble to keep agro? can you reach intimidate numbers high enough to pull mobs away or reach quest objectives to begin with?

    why orcish fury 3? are you expecting to be around 1-39% hp a lot to justify the enh point? it is just a +2 str modifier
    No melee power boost????
    i don't know how other people play their barbs but stuff usually doesn't live long enough for stuff like Viscious Strike to make an actual impact

    34 ap is not a splash anymore, is force ward worth it? all i get at high levels is chain missiles, the 5% Competence bonus to entirely avoid incoming Force damage doesn't look that hot
    Aren't you (dps wise) better of with FB?

    Why half orc in general, the character modle looks cool for a barb but if all you take is str aren't you better of with human?
    Extra feat and skill points, damage boost that stacks with melee power boost (or haste boost if you use LD/twist it) all sounds better then half orc
    I understand your point(s). The actual build is only 31 AP in occult slayer and im using viscious strike mainly to get enough AP for the 5th core enhancement, and the more moves the merrier. skill points were just basic and there they could definitely be well spent elsewhere.

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    ahhh, i see,

    the build still raises so many questions though.....
    Quote Originally Posted by FlimsyFirewood View Post
    I play a guy with a two-hander not just in this game, but in every game that has 'em.
    Quote Originally Posted by J-mann View Post
    Not to derail the thread, but then can you make 2hf NOT suck so much compared to 2wf or swf?
    Quote Originally Posted by FlimsyFirewood View Post
    8 pages in, that train has already sailed. The dead horse is canned into cat food by now.

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    Default I know

    Quote Originally Posted by lyrecono View Post
    ahhh, i see,

    the build still raises so many questions though.....
    The character builders i used are very out of date. The current build im using i did change the feats up a tad. PA>>HA-PROF>>>TWF>>>OTWF>>>ITWF>>>GTWF>>>improved crit piercing(for heavy picks)>>>Overwhelming Crit. This build switches from THF to TWF at lvl 15, and it uses heavy picks. also, the tier five enhancements are all in ravager, it goes out to the core enhancement in occult for immunity to magic missiles and 5% dodge of force damage and extra health + positive healing amplification. The final build will have +540hp from the enhancements alone so it will be close to 1k health at lvl 20 if not over. and right now i'm only lvl 9 im at 296 health 57prr 45mrr and 38 AC with 3% dodge i use potions for haste and rage usually and cure serious pots. with all the pos healing amplification at lvl 20 i should be able to heal enough for epic quests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainsmyth11 View Post
    The character builders i used are very out of date. The current build im using i did change the feats up a tad. PA>>HA-PROF>>>TWF>>>OTWF>>>ITWF>>>GTWF>>>improved crit piercing(for heavy picks)>>>Overwhelming Crit. This build switches from THF to TWF at lvl 15, and it uses heavy picks. also, the tier five enhancements are all in ravager, it goes out to the core enhancement in occult for immunity to magic missiles and 5% dodge of force damage and extra health + positive healing amplification. The final build will have +540hp from the enhancements alone so it will be close to 1k health at lvl 20 if not over. and right now i'm only lvl 9 im at 296 health 57prr 45mrr and 38 AC with 3% dodge i use potions for haste and rage usually and cure serious pots. with all the pos healing amplification at lvl 20 i should be able to heal enough for epic quests.
    i assume that's a first (or low amount of pl) life build? i break 200 at lv 3/4....(non dwarf)
    the immunity to magic missile is useless, they use chain missile past lv 5 (on elite, not sure if the same is true on norm), not magic missile.
    the 5% is pathetic compared to the dps in other tree's, your hp and heal amp is more then enough to survive the extra 5% force damage avoidance you would miss out on, especially since the enh points in the occult slayer tree are so pathetic. those points are truly wasted in there.
    Quote Originally Posted by FlimsyFirewood View Post
    I play a guy with a two-hander not just in this game, but in every game that has 'em.
    Quote Originally Posted by J-mann View Post
    Not to derail the thread, but then can you make 2hf NOT suck so much compared to 2wf or swf?
    Quote Originally Posted by FlimsyFirewood View Post
    8 pages in, that train has already sailed. The dead horse is canned into cat food by now.

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    Default misuderstood

    Quote Originally Posted by lyrecono View Post
    i assume that's a first (or low amount of pl) life build? i break 200 at lv 3/4....(non dwarf)
    the immunity to magic missile is useless, they use chain missile past lv 5 (on elite, not sure if the same is true on norm), not magic missile.
    the 5% is pathetic compared to the dps in other tree's, your hp and heal amp is more then enough to survive the extra 5% force damage avoidance you would miss out on, especially since the enh points in the occult slayer tree are so pathetic. those points are truly wasted in there.
    I said 5% dodge because its a 5% chance to dodge all the damage not 5% reduction

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainsmyth11 View Post
    Barb Ravage Slayer
    Barbarian 20, Epic 1
    Chaotic Good Half-Orc


    Stats
    . . . . . . . .34pt . . Tome . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . --------
    Strength. . . . 20. . . .+3. . . .4: STR
    Dexterity . . . 15. . . .+3. . . .8: STR
    Constitution. . 16. . . .+3. . . 12: STR
    Intelligence. . .6. . . .+3. . . 16: STR
    Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+3. . . 20: STR
    Charisma. . . . .6. . . .+3. . .



    Skills
    . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Jump. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Swim. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Intim . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 14
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . . 8. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3
    . . . . . 8. 2. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Power Attack
    .3. . . . : Two Weapon Fighting
    .6. . . . : Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    .9. . . . : Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
    12. . . . : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    15. . . . : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    18. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing
    21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical


    Enhancements (80 AP) - Errors

    Half-Orc (5 AP)
    • Orcish Fury, Orcish Strength, Orcish Fury II, Orcish Strength II, Orcish Fury III

    Ravager (41 AP)
    • Furious Rage, Pain Touch, Demoralizing Success, Pain Touch II, Subsiding Fury, Visage of Terror
      1. Ritual Scarring III, Hate III, Barbarian Power Attack III, Hardy Rage III
      2. Fear Me!, Mutilate III
      3. Aura of Fear III, Slaughter III, Strength
      4. Laughter, Strength
      5. Uncanny Balance, Critical Rage II

    Occult Slayer (34 AP)
    • Weapon Bond, Resistance, Elemental Defense, Blank Thoughts, Force Ward
      1. Extend Rage III, Parrying Bond III, Uncanny Dodger I
      2. Guarding Bond III, Lessons of Travel III
      3. Arcane Encumberance III, Kinetic Bond III, Constitution
      4. Vicious Strike III, Constitution

    the enhancements are slightly off due to miscalculations in the builder but all the choices will be the same if not one or two different
    max strength and con, rest in dex. I can see instead maybe putting the rest in wisdom, but will saves will suck regardless. putting points into wisdom you should also be equipping a wis item.

    don't bother with jump and swim skills. jump is a little low in the low levels but by 20 with rage going and strength items, shouldn't be a problem, plus you can use jump clickies or potions if you really wanted. swim is a useless skill for any class. intimidate, balance, listen is a class skill, but I prefer spot are better choices.

    no need for OTWF. take the cleave line.

    never played a Horc but looks fine to me.

    Ritual Scarring is only +3 PRR. player preference, but you wont miss it if you don't have it.

    Fear Me isn't that good, especially in epics

    Aura of Fear is a waste of AP honestly. you should be killing mobs too fast in heroics to notice -2 to ability scores and it does nothing in epics.

    overall, its not a bad build. just I think some better enhancement choices would help out better.
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    Default Thanks for the feedback

    I wish i could show you a screenshot of how i want the enhancements to be because i'm only lvl 10 and the character builders are slightly off. at lvl 20 i will make sure to post a pic of it so that all confusion is gone. I'm only going TWF because i like it better as a playstyle plus X4 crits with heavy picks is a nice bonus. I definitely should rework my skill points the same if not similar to what you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyrecono View Post
    i assume that's a first (or low amount of pl) life build? i break 200 at lv 3/4....(non dwarf)
    the immunity to magic missile is useless, they use chain missile past lv 5 (on elite, not sure if the same is true on norm), not magic missile.
    the 5% is pathetic compared to the dps in other tree's, your hp and heal amp is more then enough to survive the extra 5% force damage avoidance you would miss out on, especially since the enh points in the occult slayer tree are so pathetic. those points are truly wasted in there.
    are you saying you break 200 hp at level 3?

    could you break that down

    and no they don't stop using force missile at 5, they keep using it. Some of them around gh start using force missile.

    and while i agree that the 5% is wasted, its more because you can cast shield and block it.

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    Default Ravager first

    After consulting with a friend on a much similar dwarf build. I have decided to build into tier five enhancements on lvl 12 ( currently banking 7 AP at lvl 11) This way i get the tier five heal, +2 crit threat when raging, and immunity to knockdowns as a slight plus( not necessary) I'll also have the frenzied beserker enhancements for +2/+4/+6 rage use per rest so i can basically use my barbarian rage whenever i want to. after lvl 12 i will start building enhancements in occult slayer up to 31ish spent just for the core enhancements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobgoblin View Post
    are you saying you break 200 hp at level 3?

    could you break that down

    and no they don't stop using force missile at 5, they keep using it. Some of them around gh start using force missile.

    and while i agree that the 5% is wasted, its more because you can cast shield and block it.
    maybe, but gh is lv 14-16 ish, force ward comes at 18!

    magic missiles and chain missiles can easily be healed/brute forced through, shield works wonders too

    as for hp:
    i did say i break 200 around lv 3/4
    lv 3
    24 (3XD12 barb hp)
    30 (barb past lives)
    27 (9X3 primal epic pastlives)
    30 (Heroic Durability)
    24 (3X8 con mod, 18 starter, 1 tome, 2 completionist, +3 item, +2 ship)
    20 (FB thoughness)
    20 (ship)
    10 (os core, used for longer rage)
    20 (some form of false life)
    9 (3X3 rage&con +2 during rage)

    At lv4 i assume that's that even slightly more
    This is a rough estimate
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    Not to derail the thread, but then can you make 2hf NOT suck so much compared to 2wf or swf?
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    Here is a link to a screenshot of the planned spending of AP at lvl 20 http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/a...nshot%2017.png I used Lammania to create this. Bond of Retribution can be spent differently.

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