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  1. #1
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    Default Bard Shuriken Thrower Build - Feedback Wanted

    Hello,

    I wanted to make a bard thrower build that uses shurikens. Personally I wanted it to have trap skills and access to a few of the higher bard spells like Ddoor, Displacement, Haste, Dance Sphere etc. So after a bunch of research I put together this build. 12 Bard, 6 Ranger, 2 Rogue. I chose 12 Bard to get the spells I wanted, though I only needed to get 10 Bard. But 4 Rogue only gave 1d6 sneak attack, trap making and Uncanny (which you get from swash core anyways). So I originally was thinking 11 Bard 6 Ranger, 3 Rogue for he Sneak attack, but then looked at 12 bard for the extra core. Figured 1% doubleshot, 2 damage and 1 hit was better than 1d6 sneak attack. If anyone could look it over and give feedback would be appreciated particularly for epic content. I had 7 AP left over for either some filler enhancements or depending on my int getting Know the Angel in Harper.

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.23.01
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    Level 28 True Neutral Halfling Male
    (2 Rogue \ 6 Ranger \ 12 Bard \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 280
    Spell Points: 775 
    BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 34
    Will: 15
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength              6                    10
    Dexterity            20                    38
    Constitution          8                    12
    Intelligence         16                    20
    Wisdom                8                    12
    Charisma             16                    20
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 14
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 18
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               5                    22
    Bluff                 3                    13
    Concentration         1                    32
    Diplomacy             3                    16
    Disable Device        7                    36
    Haggle                3                    13
    Heal                  1                    14
    Hide                  9                    42
    Intimidate            3                    13
    Jump                  1                    13
    Listen               -1                    11
    Move Silently         9                    40
    Open Lock             9                    44
    Perform               5                    39
    Repair                3                    13
    Search                7                    36
    Spellcraft            3                    13
    Spot                  3                    32
    Swim                 -2                     8
    Tumble                6                    23
    Use Magic Device      7                    36
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Thrown Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Human
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Shuriken Expertise
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Precision
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Skill Focus (Arcane)
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Perform
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Lesser Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Greater Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Skillful Thrower (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sniper Shot (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Versatile Empathy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Favored Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Thrill of the Hunt (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Favored Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Killer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Swashbuckling (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Uncanny Dodge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Panache (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Tavern Shanties (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Tavern Shanties (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Fast Movement (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doubleshot (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doubleshot (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doubleshot (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Dashing Scoundrel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Wind at my Back (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Thread the Needle (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Coupe De Grace (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Exploit Weakness (Rank 1)
    Last edited by vess219; 04-06-2015 at 10:02 PM.

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    With the changes to Rogue Mechanic, now also considering a 7 Bard 7 Rogue 6 Ranger, losing the fourth level spells and being able to swap between Swash level 5 enhancements and Mechanic level 5 enhancements. Trading a few swashbuckler and Deepwood AP for Mechanic:

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.23.01
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Level 28 True Neutral Halfling Male
    (7 Rogue \ 6 Ranger \ 7 Bard \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 280
    Spell Points: 385 
    BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 32
    Will: 14
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength              6                    10
    Dexterity            20                    36
    Constitution          8                    12
    Intelligence         16                    20
    Wisdom                8                    12
    Charisma             16                    20
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 14
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 18
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               5                    21
    Bluff                 3                    14
    Concentration         1                    31
    Diplomacy             3                    14
    Disable Device        7                    39
    Haggle                3                    13
    Heal                  1                    31
    Hide                  9                    51
    Intimidate            3                    13
    Jump                 -1                    12
    Listen               -1                    14
    Move Silently         9                    49
    Open Lock             9                    47
    Perform               5                    36
    Repair                3                    16
    Search                7                    39
    Spellcraft            4                    23
    Spot                  3                    35
    Swim                 -2                     8
    Tumble                6                    22
    Use Magic Device      7                    39
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Shuriken Expertise
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Thrown Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Human
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Precision
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Skill Focus (Arcane)
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Stealthy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Cunning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Guile (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Skillful Thrower (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Guile (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sniper Shot (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Arbalester (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Tanglefoot (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Targeting Sights (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Sharpshooter (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Sharpshooter (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Improved Traps (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Sharpshooter	 (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Sharpshooter (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Fletching (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Fletching (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Fletching (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Leg Shot (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Sharpshooter (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Rapid Fire (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Rapid Fire (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Rapid Fire (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanical Reloader (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Swashbuckling (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Uncanny Dodge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Tavern Shanties (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doubleshot (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doubleshot (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doubleshot (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Dashing Scoundrel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 3)
    Thoughts on either?

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