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    Default (Cynababe Monkcher)Cleric AA Variance

    Good day all, was just testing out one of the AA variant build and because of my past lifes of Monkcher, i've got a few bow and moncher's gear stash away which i wish to used in my cleric's life( Getting Completionist, well at least i am trying to), i like range play very much and was hoping my cleric's life to be more or less like a moncker so here's my build. I know there are lotsa flaws in this build, thats why i need your constructive opinion so i can improve this build to an optimal level. Appreciate your feed back


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    Level 28 Lawful Good Elf Male
    (6 Monk \ 14 Cleric \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 392
    Spell Points: 1385 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 19
    Will: 20
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength              8                    13
    Dexterity            18                    31
    Constitution         13                    18
    Intelligence         13                    18
    Wisdom               16                    23
    Charisma             11                    16
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
    +5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               4                    24
    Bluff                 0                    11
    Concentration         1                    35
    Diplomacy             4                    28
    Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
    Haggle                0                    11
    Heal                  7                    37
    Hide                  4                    18
    Intimidate            0                    11
    Jump                 -1                    19
    Listen                3                    16
    Move Silently         4                    18
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  n/a
    Repair                1                    13
    Search                1                    15
    Spellcraft            1                    12
    Spot                  3                    16
    Swim                 -1                     9
    Tumble                n/a                  n/a
    Use Magic Device      2                    23
    
    Level 1 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Silver Flame
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 2 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 3 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Manyshot
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars
    
    
    Level 10 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 11 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 12 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 14 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 15 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 16 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 17 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 18 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 19 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 20 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Positive
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot
    Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Elven Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Arcanum (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Grace (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Skill (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Soul Magic (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Runebow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Healing Domain (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Pacifism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Positive Energy Burst (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Empower Healing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Divine Cleansing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Divine Healing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Divine Healing (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Divine Healing (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 2)
    Last edited by Gagraphic; 02-22-2015 at 08:32 PM.

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    Build Constructionist unbongwah's Avatar
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    Just how "cleric-y" do you want this life to be? In order to get a cleric PL, you just need it to be the dominant class; so you could easily do something more heavily-MCed, such as monk 6 / rgr 6 / cleric 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Just how "cleric-y" do you want this life to be? In order to get a cleric PL, you just need it to be the dominant class; so you could easily do something more heavily-MCed, such as monk 6 / rgr 6 / cleric 8.
    Ump actually i am open to suggestion when it comes to this part, Technically i just wanna get thru this life as a cleric so i can tr asap. But something that encourage me to get more lvls of Cleric is because of the healing option that some grp may require of me, so its means i still can dish out some decent heals incase the group require so, i dont mind soloing but i enjoy grp play more . This build is inspired by one of sestra's AA paly/monk range build. I don't expect this build to be uber awesome when it comes to dps, but atleast decent dps and more than decent heals.

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    So here's a build which is an updated version of wowo's Radiant Monkcher:
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    Level 28 Lawful Neutral Elf Female
    (6 Monk \ 1 Ranger \ 13 Cleric \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 364
    Spell Points: 1590 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 17
    Will: 22
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             14                    19
    Dexterity            16                    22
    Constitution         11                    16
    Intelligence         11                    16
    Wisdom               16                    28
    Charisma             14                    19
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 14
    +5 Tome of Strength used at level 18
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 18
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 18
    +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 18
    +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 18
    +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 18
    
    Level 1 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision
    Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars
    
    
    Level 8 (Cleric)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Silver Flame
    
    
    Level 9 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Manyshot
    
    
    Level 10 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 11 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 12 (Cleric)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 13 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 14 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 15 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 16 (Cleric)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    
    
    Level 17 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 18 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 19 (Cleric)
    
    
    Level 20 (Cleric)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Elven Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Arcanum (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Aligned Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Force Arrows (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Force Arrows (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Soul Magic (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Healing Domain (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Pacifism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Positive Energy Burst (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Empower Healing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Divine Healing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Divine Healing (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Divine Healing (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Intense Healing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Unyielding Sovereignty (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Incredible Healing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Positive Energy Aura (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Cure Focus (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target
    WIS is the primary stat to max out 10K Stars proc chance; DPS is STR+CHA-based; just enough DEX for feat pre-reqs. Grace is usually a trap, but it's particularly, uhhh, trap-y on a build with cheap access to Div Might.

    Now here's what I don't like about it: since racial AA costs so much to unlock, I'm not convinced radiant aura is worth the heavy AP cost, particularly since it means giving up Slaying Arrow and monk enhs. Rgr 6 / monk 6 / cleric 8 would definitely have better DPS, since I would put all my APs in AA+DWS.

    TBH, I don't think monkchers are the best choice for HTR builds; their DPS starts out low and doesn't really take off until high heroic / early epic lvls, IMHO. But it is doable if you want to go that route.
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    Community Member Gagraphic's Avatar
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    Thank for the suggestion and feedback, yeah i agree in dps wise this build will definitely be falling behind at early heroic but hey, i've got some good wraps stash away too, so i can maybe play like a helves angel at earlier heroic ( Pull out bow and manyshot/10k star then switch back to wraps when both on cd) that way i might be able to not suck so much in dps hehehe. About healing aura, i guess i agree with you about the heavy cost, i guess i can maybe skip it and get slayer from AA instead, maybe just heal, heal scroll and positive energy burst should be able to do the trick when it comes to grp heal. will be tr-ing in the next few days, this will be the build to play, lets see how it works out in the real game situation.

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