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    Default 121 FREE SILVER Daily Dice Rolls

    Here are my guild's stats from our FREE SILVER Daily Dice rolls. One day at a time, per account, per server. AFAIK, none in our guild has spent an astral shard to roll more than the FREE roll.

    These TWENTY EIGHT numbers have not been rolled yet 13, 15, 16, 20, 25, 27, 28, 31, 40, 44, 52,53, 58, 63, 66, 67, 69, 72, 75, 76, 80, 81, 83, 86, 89, 93, 94, and 100

    1-25 Currency

    1......1041 plat
    2......1062 plat, 1 astral shard
    2......1095 Plat
    3......1037 Plat
    4......1083 plat
    4......1084 plat
    5......1065 plat
    5......1029 plat
    6......997 plat
    7......1046 plat
    8......1053 plat
    8......1033 plat
    9......1040 plat
    9......1052 platinum
    10......1064 plat
    11......1049 Plat
    11......1066 plat
    12......plat
    14......1082 plat, 2 astral shards
    14......1098 plat
    14......1030 plat
    17......1008 plat
    18......1009 plat
    18......1064 plat
    19......1074 plat
    19......1048 plat
    21......1051 plat, 1 astral shard
    21......1032 plat
    21......1090 plat
    22......1030 plat, 1 astral shard
    23......1064 plat
    24......1071 plat
    24......1039 plat

    26-45 Collectables

    26......blessed candle
    29......Sweet Whitecap, 3 Astral Shards
    30......Ivory Scorpion Icon
    32......mystical formula
    33......Sweet Whitecap, 3 Astral Shards
    33......Sweet Whitecap
    33......chipped bone talisman
    34......Fragrant Drowshood
    34......withered cryptmoss
    34......Swaying Mushroom Cluster
    35......Intact Fingerbone
    35......Sweet Whitecap, 2 Astral Shards
    36......string of prayer beads
    37......Bruised Spore Pod
    37......Lush Cryptmoss
    37......Khyber Prayer Pamphlet
    37......small wooden idol
    38......Cryptmoss, 2 astral shards
    38......Page Torn Research Notebook, 2 Astral Shard
    39......Amber Vial
    39......Vial of Contagion, 2 astral shards
    39......chipped bone talisman
    41......Three Astral Shards
    41......Mystic Formula
    41......Blade of the Dark Six
    41......Ivory Scorpion Icon
    42......One Sweet Whitecap
    42......Sweet Whitecap
    43......Tear of Vulkoor
    43......Swaying Mushroom Cluster
    45......One Sweet Whitecap
    45......blessed candle

    46-65 Crafting

    46......7 Lesser Evil Essences
    46......9 Lesser Evil Essences
    47......10 lesser chaos essences
    48......5 Greater Mind Essences
    49......5 greater divine essences
    49......6 lesser earth essences
    49......5 Greater Chaos Essence
    50......9 lesser evil essences
    51......5 Greater Good Essences
    54......8 Lesser Divine Essences
    55......7 Lesser Body Essences
    56......6 lesser Good Essences
    56......4 greater earth essences
    57......5 Greater Fire Essences
    59......10 Lesser Body Essences
    59......4 greater water essences
    60......6 lsser fire essences
    61......4 greater evil essences
    62......7 lesser fire essence
    62......7 Lesser Water Essences
    64......4 greater evil essences
    65......4 greater evil essences

    66-80 Consumables

    68......3 Elixirs of Minor Mnemonic
    70......3 potions of Heroism (10)
    71......4 potions of haste
    73......2 Minor Mnemonic Elixirs
    73......2 Potions of Heroism
    73......4 potions of heroism (10)
    74......2 Minor Mnemonic Elixirs
    74......3 Potions of haste, 15th level
    77......3 Potions of haste, 15th level
    78......Elixir of Greater Mnemonic
    78......Conc. Major Mnemonic Elixir
    79......2 Elixirs of Supreme Ability
    79......3 Potions of haste, 15th level

    81-90 Boosts

    82......Minor Exp Elixir
    82......minor exp elixir
    82......small jewel of fortune
    84......small jewel of fortune
    85......small jewel of fortune
    87......small jewel of fortune
    87......Lesser Crafting Exp Elixir
    87......small jewel of fortune
    88......2 lesser crafting exp elixirs
    90......Minor Experince Elixir

    91-95 Improved Boosts

    90......minor guild renown elixir
    91......Greater Crafting EXP Elixir
    92......Greater Crafting XP Elixir
    92......medium XP Elixir
    95......Medium Jewel of Fortune
    95......Greater EXP Elixir 20% 3 hours
    95......Medium Slayer Boost Count

    96-99 Copper Jackpot

    96......Siberys Spirit Cake
    97......Rest Statue of Eladrin
    98......Siberys Spirit Cake
    99......15 astral shards

    Silver Jackpot

    100..... NONE ROLLED AS OF YET BY OUR GUILD, Liquidzombie rolled one and received 35 astral shards

    Eight numbers of 5 or less have been rolled, but only four numbers of 96 or higher have been rolled. Strange that it is a two to one ratio. If this keeps up with a bigger dataset it will lead me to believe that the Silver Jackpot and Copper Jackpot are weighted differently than rolling a five or less.
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    Cool. But 121 is way too early to make judgements on a system that has 100 outcomes.

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    I rolled a 100 yesterday (Free Silver Roll) and got 3 Siberys Spirit Cakes. This was my 3rd free roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psteen1 View Post
    Cool. But 121 is way too early to make judgements on a system that has 100 outcomes.
    It obviously has more than 100 outcomes, as you can see that multiple rolls of the same number produce somewhat different outcomes. See 49 and 73.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psteen1 View Post
    Cool. But 121 is way too early to make judgements on a system that has 100 outcomes.
    I know, too small of a dataset. When we hit around 500 is when I will begin to make assumptions.

    We might not make it though. Already there are grumblings that it is pointless, that is coming fom the players that are getting One Sweet Whitecap(me being one of them).
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    2nd day of DD and i won a superior xp elixir by rolling a 100. Level 7 quests never went so fast before.

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    I rolled a 100 on my first attempt and won 35 astral shards.

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    4 rolls so far,all under #25,got pp and once 3 as.

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    We have discussed this a bit in my guild and we believe there are two rolls going on.

    The first roll is the one you see, which is what gets the "catagory" of the prize selected.

    Then there appears to be a hidden second roll which determines what the actual prize from within the group is.
    Shapshap, League of Extraordinary Ham, Sarlona and a bunch of alts that all have names begining with Sha or Sho. Of course Shapshap could be the alt and one of the others the main, it just depends on what day it is.

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    Agree with the person who said that 120 ish rolls is no where near enough to start looking at results...

    Random is clustery clumpy and uneven, not smooth and "fair" in fact just eyeballing that list it looks like you guys rolled an extremely unusually smooth and non clustered bunch of rolls for such a tiny sample... I would have bet on many much larger gaps between numbers rolled. But that is also subject to flukes in such a small sample. The EVENNESS of your results is more interesting than the 8 lower rolls versus 4 higher rolls.... the fact that you don't have (say) a 8 or 10 number gap anywhere with no rolls between say 33 to 42, or say a cluster of 6 18's etc.

    In fact the largest cluster you have is 4 of the same roll... I have to think just eyeballing it that's such a thing is flukey. without doing the math (which I am terrible at anyway).

    BTW 6 AS and some plat on my first roll of 9

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    2 notes....

    1) One of the ways to detect truly random numbers versus "random" numbers made up to look random is clumping. If it is really random, there is bound to be much more clumping that you'd expect. Our brains expect random to be a nice smooth distribution that is really not very random. Real random numbers clump more often than you'd expect. Flip a coin 100 times, and you have welll over a 90% chance to have a series of 5 in a row.

    2) Like TAO said, there seem to be 2 rolls at work here. Whatever you roll (that it displays) is unimportant other than what group it falls into. Then it rolls again (in a hidden roll) to see what you get out of that group.


    Anyway, I've been enjoying my once per day roll. Not that I'd bother buying more rolls, but I get 10 seconds of free entertainment out of it.
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    I've rolled a few times since it came out on my 3 server thelanis, orien and argo so far ive gotten a few mana pots (woot), some sibreys cakes, some astral shards, plat, craftung ingreads and some collectbales...so so far no complaints...when i get a useless colectable i just shrug than play some ddo when i get some cool like a mana pot i smile and than play some ddo.

    Free stuff is fun I really dont get all the moaning. Just like everything else that is P2P in this game with a little patience and luck you can do it entirely F2P.

    On the other hand if someone wants to blow 300$ on this I say more more power to them, if that more than they can afford that's their own **** fault, if its a kid using Daddy or Mommies C-Card thats the parents fault (Hint: Use Pre-Paid Credit Cards so once the kids allotted money is gone, it's gone)

    Personally I will never pay to get Astral shards for the gold box (my money is better spent on adventure packs,classes,etc.) but I'll likely log on as often as possible to roll that silver box...guess what thats mission accomplished for Turbine.

    In short I get free stuff every day including some DDO store stuff and Turbine gets my virtual butt online almost daily so we both win.
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    The copper jackpot can also give a Jeweler's Tool Kit. The dice were kind to me yesterday and I rolled 95-99 on five servers. Mostly got spirit cakes and astral shards.

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    Just rolled a Silver Jackpot! BtA Strength tome ...Upgrade... +1 to +2... It would be nice if I could have taken a lesser prize... collectibles even.

    I pulled another upgrade Int tome the other day. At least a +1 is usable and a +2 is usable but this requires me to spend half as much (or already have) to even use it. Why do these things even exist?

    Edit: nevermind... Chomped it into some dragon shards...
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    Its trying to mimic the DMG loot tables where the first roll is the category, which is another table full of that category's items, and the second roll is the item itself. You only see the first roll appear in front of you.
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    First roll on first server: 100

    +2 to +3 Wis tome upgrade.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TempestAlphaOmega View Post
    We have discussed this a bit in my guild and we believe there are two rolls going on.

    The first roll is the one you see, which is what gets the "catagory" of the prize selected.

    Then there appears to be a hidden second roll which determines what the actual prize from within the group is.
    Something like this would explain why my own rolls differ from many of the stated rolls.

    In fact perhaps there could be 3 rolls, 1 for the #, one for an item in that range, and one for the amount of that item?

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    Just to add to these figures:

    26 Prayer Beads
    42 Prayer Beads
    46 Withered Cryptmoss
    92 Medium Jewel of Fortune
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    Rolled 100 today,35 astral shards.

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    After a few first gold rolls, and a couple of subsequent "free" silver rolls, I've come to the conclusion that one silver roll a day isn't really worth worrying about...

    So I think I'll probably soon start forgetting about the daily dice....after the initial wow, unless I get a windfall of shards from someplace, I'll just focus on other parts of DDO.

    I'll still play the lottery, one button submit for multiple items for multiple characters.

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