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    I guess before I launch into a tirade of questions, here's the obvious one: what is Turbine's official position on dual-boxing? I was strongly considering spending some money on a secondary account, but I'd rather not if Turbine is going to ban either of my accounts for dualing.

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    I think you can do it as long as the accounts are under your control at all times. Don't quote me on that though.
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    I basically want two accounts to power-level myself, they would both be my accounts at all times. The ONLY possible time someone else would use the account is at the computer next to me, in the same room, after I had typed in the top-secret, highly-secure password myself.

    Is there anywhere I can go to get an official position from Turbine on the subject?

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    Don't worry about dualboxing. Devs didn't make any official statement about it as far as I know, but they never did anything to prevent it. Few months ago, during build your guild event, there was one person that was 6boxing and got his solo guild to lev100. One of the devs congratulated him in the thread, so that can be taken as a statement that they are not against it. I also dualbox quite a lot and never had any troubles.
    Only thing that is explicitly forbidden is some kind of automation of the secondary acc.

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    I pay for 2 accounts, I play 2 accounts. x2 the money for Turbine! They are trying to make me get a third but I'm fighting against it.....

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    Lol, I gave tri-boxing a shot, didna work out sooooo well.

    Anyway, I've been using a secondary about for a while now with a pretty decently-leveled cleric(16 cleric/1 sorcerer) I was toiying with grabbing vet-2 for the second account while its on sale, which I now think I shall do. And next time warforged artificers go on sale... oh yes.

    Automation is a definite no, I basically just pike with myself, running an artificer around while something else sits at the quest entrance and gains XP. I powerleved a few friend that way(I have multiple computers, so its easy). I had so much fun at it I think its actually worth spending a few bucks on.

    I could also easily run 5 or 6 on my main workstation but I don't like windowed mode.

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    There was a developer that replied (too lazy to look for the link).

    As long as nothing is automated, and you are in control, it is ok.

    There is even a one-man guild if i remember correctly that run to guild level 100 by 6 boxing. It was even congratulated by a dev.

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    Seriously now - A friend has complained on multiple occasions to me about being reported for Dual Boxing {which he wasn't btw - He and his girlfriend just happen to play twin characters a lot} and having conversations with GMs about it.

    So I'm quite sceptical.

    If this is truly allowed then could someone explain how it is done please?

    How do you have two DDO's open on the same computer?

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    Zonixx 6-boxed a guild up to level 100 during the Build Your Guild event, with the devs' blessing. (Or at least, with many emails back and forth questioning whether or not it was considered exploiting or anything)

    From what I understand, as long as you are in control of the account at all times (i.e. no Bots, macros or programs running an account for you) then you're golden.

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    I have not had any problem at all.

    I use a second computer but there is a way to do it from only one computer and the thread telling you how to set that up is still alive somewhere.
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    How to dual box:

    Method 1) Run DDO on multiple computers.
    Method 2) Install multiple copies of DDO in separate directories*
    Method 3) Use a program to rename the DDO process, and load a new client**

    * If I remember correctly, there's even instructions on how to do this somewhere in the user manual / readme.

    ** As this utilizes third-party software, there is some grey area on whether it is 'okay' or not. As long as you (and not software/bots) control all in-game actions however, it meets the general criteria to be acceptable. I also know multiple people who have used this method without issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muspellsheimr View Post
    How to dual box:
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    4.) Use a sandbox program. No need to manage multiple installations. You can always start your 2nd client whenever you want, no need for fast double clicking or such.
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    Just to add to the voices in case anyone is in any doubt:

    There is no problem as long as you're in control of all accounts and don't use any funky software to control your characters etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazeee View Post
    4.) Use a sandbox program. No need to manage multiple installations. You can always start your 2nd client whenever you want, no need for fast double clicking or such.
    Read method 3 again - that is basically what I described. I was simply unaware it was considered sandboxing. Makes sense, but still not entirely sure that's the correct term for it.

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    So how would Turbine know you're dual-boxing unless you told them?

    In other words, concealed is concealed.

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    You have nothing to worry about OP. Some households have 2 or more accounts. To Turbine, you might as well be two room mates, or father and son, or husband and wife playing the game from the same IP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muspellsheimr View Post
    Read method 3 again - that is basically what I described. I was simply unaware it was considered sandboxing. Makes sense, but still not entirely sure that's the correct term for it.
    It is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox...uter_security)

    And no, your method #3 is something different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterjWizzard View Post
    Is there anywhere I can go to get an official position from Turbine on the subject?
    Zonixx was congratulated by Turbine Community representative when he used 6-boxing to attain guild level 100.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=373276

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    The ONLY possible time someone else would use the account is at the computer next to me, in the same room, after I had typed in the top-secret, highly-secure password myself.
    This would break Point 10 of the Code of Conduct:

    You may not advertise the intent to, or commit the act of, unauthorized selling, buying, transferring or sharing access to any Dungeons&Dragons Online game account.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muspellsheimr View Post
    Method 3) Use a program to rename the DDO process, and load a new client**

    I would consider this falls under point 9

    You may not modify the game client

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    Cool

    Is it true they are thinking of allowing Dual-Boxing in the next Olympics?
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    They simply do not have an official position on it. They purposefully turned a blind eye on it so far, so it would theoretically possible that they crack down on it, but it seems highly unlikely.

    If a ingame gm tells you otherwise, they simply don't know about that.

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