Star of Day

[arkonas]

am i the only one who thinks this is kinda bs that it's a short sword? so most clerics who use it if they do -4 attack penalty. wow that is just ****. why offer a sword from a cleric trader if the only people who can use it with no issue and not burning a feat or multiclass is a drow cleric. fvs cant even use it unless their drow. its a lose lose there. I just dont understand the thinking behind that...


So what im asking is could you just change the type so clerics can actually use a weapon that they get from a CLERIC trader lol. you shouldnt have to burn any feats or be a drow or multiclass to get it. it should be a regular weapon like a mace or something like that.

edit ok i found this
An ancient Netherese deity of order and the sun, Amaunator was also revered as the patron of law and time. The justice he dealt was always harsh but eminently fair. He was revered by many rulers, soldiers, and powerful wizards.

His symbol is a sun with a face on the solar disk. According the Third Edition rules for the Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying game, the official cleric domains of Amaunator are Law, Nobility, Planning, Sun, and Time. His favored weapon is the Scepter of the Eternal Sun and his clergy typically use maces as representations of their deity's weapon.
Appearance

Amaunator appeared as a lanky man with silver-white hair, a short, week-long growth of white beard, and skin that glowed with a quiet golden radiance. He carried the Scepter of the Eternal Sun in one hand and a large legal tome in the other, and wore the clothes of a magistrate: a long, black or purple gown trimmed with silver or gold. To be in his presence was to feel the awesome power of true law.

so since even the god himself favoured maces maybe in the future they can add weapons/items that the lore is based on to all traders not just cleric.

[Hokiewa]

Just because it comes from clerics doesn't mean it's a cleric weapon. It's clearly designed for ninja spys or maybe rogue

[masterzzan]

didn't you get the memo?

(from turbine thinktank secret plott-... planing)

" this update has been marked as : 'how can we make them stop playing as healers'.

it has 2 main reasons.

1: they might consider getting a druid.
2: if no one heal the quests get tougher and we can claim that we increased the difficulty level of the quests without doing anything to them at all. "

for more on this subject check out : new spell power change, new healing amp' "bug", and new meta-magic twitch considering some healing spells.

[sandypaws]

Battle clerics, maybe? They tend to splash fighter.
Or I suppose you could pretty easily UMD a master's touch on that.
But yeah. It definitely does more good on a rogue.

[akash]

Just UMD Master's Touch (requires only 19 UMD no fail) and you will be able to use that sword. Moreover different cleric faith enhancements give different weapon mastery if you cast it on yourself. Say for example:

Champion of the Lord of Blades -> Greatswords
Tira's Champion -> Longbows
Dol Dorn's Champion -> Longswords
Champion of the Deathless -> Scimitars
Champion of Vulkoor -> Shortswords

[FuzzyDuck81]

It gives people who pick up cleric commendations on non-divines something to actually use them on? The shield of faith potions are pretty rubbish after all & most of the other gear isnt as useful as some of the other items, such as the sun soul bracers (+4 insight to saves & +2 insight to con is never a bad thing) & the PDK gloves (+30% healing amp? thats the devs cackling madly at the thought of all those people who have ground out for claw gloves with no luck) that can be good on characters who arent ostensibly the character types the sets are geared towards.

[9Crows]

yes you would think human cleric traders would give you cleric type weapons ...and if the clerics were behind the trades ime sure they would ,,, but turbine devs are behind it so no..some clerics ime sure gave feed back saying that shortswords and clerics dont really synch that well.. they are now drow slaves in the undiedark

[Cinos]

yes you would think human cleric traders would give you cleric type weapons ...and if the clerics were behind the trades ime sure they would ,,, but turbine devs are behind it so no..some clerics ime sure gave feed back saying that shortswords and clerics dont really synch that well.. they are now drow slaves in the undiedark

To be fair, in every other MMORPG every faction has a variety of rewards, so it's not a waste for any most characters to grind reputation with them.

It's pretty fine, in my opinion.

[ddonoobgamer]

Ok I realize I made too many mistakes in this post, so I'm nuking what I wrote.

[9Crows]

To be fair, in every other MMORPG every faction has a variety of rewards, so it's not a waste for any most characters to grind reputation with them.

It's pretty fine, in my opinion.

there isnt a variety of weapon awards from cleric traders..there is a shortsword... if they had placed a rouge faction in faerun ..would you expect to see a mace as the weapon reward option?

[FuzzyDuck81]

But what gets me is that they made it a shortsword. That's just nuts. The dev probably plays a rogue lol. The base damage is actually pretty OP for a shortsword (2[1d10]). I can't help but think it's a bug and that it should have been a longsword.

it's a boosted version of http://ddowiki.com/page/Sun_Blade which has been one of the pretty iconic, D&D staple items for many years.

The raid loot item http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Celesti...st_Star_of_Day is the ultimate version.

And yes, i want that one too

[Rodomonte]

It wouldn't be so bad if it was actually a longsword. Clerics can get the Follower of the Silver Flame enhancement for just 2 AP and get longsword proficiency plus a to-hit bonus to boot.

Sovereign Host. Followers of the Silver Flame get longbow proficiency.

[ddonoobgamer]

it's a boosted version of http://ddowiki.com/page/Sun_Blade which has been one of the pretty iconic, D&D staple items for many years.

The raid loot item http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Celesti...st_Star_of_Day is the ultimate version.

And yes, i want that one too

The only similiarity I see between Sun Blade and the cleric one is the 1d10 part, so I don't really see it as a boosted version. But that's neither here nor there. Making a shortsword as the cleric turn-in makes about as much sense as making a shortbow as the war wizard turn-in or a quarterstaff as the purple dragon knight turn-in.

[ddonoobgamer]

Sovereign Host. Followers of the Silver Flame get longbow proficiency.

Yes you're right, I got the names mixed up.

[Siro]

Lore-wise, try to remember that the item comes from Faerun. Try to also remember that clerics are supposed to get domains. The war domain grants proficiency and weapon focus with the deity's weapon. And Amaunator's favored weapon is the mace... nevermind, the weapon makes no sense.

[arkonas]

i think some of you failed to see my point or post i said without multiclassing or picking a feat. you look at the other traders villager wizard druid or pdk. all their weapons can be used by their class with no issue or doing anything crazy. clerics or fvs cant do that unless their drow or do other stuff to acquire.

Yes its a cleric trader so the weapons should be able to be used by a cleric/fvs hence its their trader lol.

[Auralana7214]

Lore-wise, try to remember that the item comes from Faerun. Try to also remember that clerics are supposed to get domains. The war domain grants proficiency and weapon focus with the deity's weapon. And Amaunator's favored weapon is the mace... nevermind, the weapon makes no sense.

LOL. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

[Ranncore]

And why is the cleric armor a breastplate? (I'll answer that for you - it's for FvS, not cleric)

And why isn't there a single named piece of gear from MoTU that has devotion?

And not a single named or epic item in the entire game with devotion higher than 90?

Clerics got BONED for loot. And to reach pre-MoTU power in healing, we have to go to ridiculous lengths slotting/hotswapping gear.

So let me adjust what I said there - Clerics got BONED with this update.

[Ranncore]

Don't even get me started on how terrible the Exaulted Angel destiny is for clerics.

[QNecron]

Drow Clerics - duh!

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(Racial Prof with Rapiers and Short Swords)