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    Last night was really bad for DDO, and therefore, for my playing experience.

    First while running And the Dead Shall Rise i got a black screen right after killing the lich (thanks to an experienced player in the party). I couldn't see anything, UI either. I could only hear sounds and was able to write in chat (without seeing it, using just enter and other keys...), DDO was not "responding" in task manager.

    Luckily, my party waited for me to log off and back on, and i got all xp and loot, or else i d have trashed about 1 hour of playing (my first run there).

    All my config is always the same, but i am getting these black screens only recently.

    Then, later, i sent an item from my alt, 1000 siberys fragments and i got this screen:



    Can't detach, as you see, 26 empty slots, but it says i should check for full inventory or exclusivity of the item. None of the above, just a bug.

    Nothing important, right, in fact i really hope that won't happen to anyone with valuable items.

    At last but not least; I had a third tier silver flame talisman farmed in my previous life in necropolis (11 negative energy absorptions) the other day i go to necropolis to farm favors in necro1 quests.

    So i start to talk with all the quest givers. Well, my talisman get erased from my inventory:

    No confirm message asked anf puff, you lose an item requiring you about 15 (more?) quests to be obtained. Guess what? Bug report form didn t even work that day (logged me off)

    Well i would like to have it back now... but i m afraid i ll need to run necros again...

    I want to add these broken game mechanics next to bugs, this and the threnal pack where you can erase your progress while talking to a simple npc must be improved.

    EDIT
    : Well, actually, it is not a broken game mechanic as i stated previously. It is actually a known bug (from players) that destroys an item you acquire after running several quests. And after being destroyed it can't be found on buy back tab.
    So, judging from regular game mechanics perspective, it should be considered a bug in my humble opinion.

    EDIT END

    Just add a big red flashing message saying: "You are about to lose this X item in order to obtain this Y item" or, in the threnal quests case "You are gonna lose your progress if you confirm this dialog box".

    Hard to do? I don't know. Needed? YES

    Please let us continue playing DDO, do not let it be buried in bugs and broken mechanics.

    Thanks for reading.

    P.S. lost about 30 minutes only to submit these bugs (15 minutes to load the bug report form and more 15 to actually write those).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phemt81 View Post
    At last but not least; I had a third tier silver flame talisman farmed in my previous life in necropolis (11 negative energy absorptions) the other day i go to necropolis to farm favors in necro1 quests.

    So i start to talk with all the quest givers. Well, my talisman get erased from my inventory:
    The Emerald Claw guy DOES say he'll destroy it for you if you click yes.

    Yeah, it's pretty dumb, but it's not actually a bug.

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    I've never encountered any of those bugs, and I do know to talk to the SF guy BEFORE taking the old one out of the cache. Maybe you're cursed.

    Lag is a bigger problem IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qezuzu View Post
    I've never encountered any of those bugs, and I do know to talk to the SF guy BEFORE taking the old one out of the cache. Maybe you're cursed.

    Lag is a bigger problem IMO.
    Mmm, I have destroyed my 10 charge before clicking the altar in ascension chamber to make sure my tier 0 gets upgraded and I don't lose my 10, and then bought my 10 charge back from the vendor. Anyone know if you can buy back the 10 charge from the vendor if the Emerald Claw guy destroys it? I'm guessing no.

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    As to your Silver Flame Nugget, did you try checking the Buy Back tab on a vendor? I know that this nugget function is a specialized function, and might not actually "destroy" the item out of your inventory the way one would traditionally destroy items. But, it might be worth checking. *shrug*

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    I doubt the black screen issue has anything to do with DDO, it's probably an issue with your computer

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    Is it possible to have both a Silver Flame Talisman and a Silver Flame Pendant on the same character?

    If I attain the Talisman (10 charge), then TR, it would be nice to have the Pendant (5 charge) on the new life before reaching level 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedamijo View Post
    Is it possible to have both a Silver Flame Talisman and a Silver Flame Pendant on the same character?

    If I attain the Talisman (10 charge), then TR, it would be nice to have the Pendant (5 charge) on the new life before reaching level 11.
    Yes, its possible. Don't remove your old Silver Flame Talisman from TR cache though prior to obtaining the Pendant. Don't know if this is WAI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedamijo View Post
    Is it possible to have both a Silver Flame Talisman and a Silver Flame Pendant on the same character?

    If I attain the Talisman (10 charge), then TR, it would be nice to have the Pendant (5 charge) on the new life before reaching level 11.
    I read in the forums somewhere that you could have more than one on a second lifer. I currently have the 10 charge item in my tr cache, and am working on the third tier of a new one (it's currently at 5 charges). It does not say it's exclusive so I should eventually be able to absorb up to 20 neg levels. I don't ever expect to need that many, 10 has always been ample, but I am curious to see if it will work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phemt81 View Post
    Last night [...]

    First while running And the Dead Shall Rise i got a black screen [...] DDO was not "responding" in task manager.
    Never had this happen to me.

    [...]

    Then, later, i sent an item from my alt, 1000 siberys fragments and i got this screen:

    [...]

    Can't detach, as you see,[...] just a bug.[...]
    I have seen this, but it was just lag from the Orien's postal service. I tried again after a minute and it was okay. Don't think it was a bug though.

    At last but not least; I had a third tier silver flame talisman farmed in my previous life in necropolis (11 negative energy absorptions) the other day i go to necropolis to farm favors in necro1 quests.

    So i start to talk with all the quest givers. Well, my talisman get erased from my inventory:
    [...]
    This is working as intended. The quest giver did say they don't like the opposing faction and will remove the opposing faction's item.

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    Yeah, it's not that clear that you'll be losing the silver flame just from the dialog, since they put it in NPC/RP terms. As for the chains, I just don't understand how it's even possible to bork your progress, why they'd allow it to happen in the first place, and why they haven't fixed it after all this time. Especially something as infuriating as threnal.

    But bug fixes don't really sell, and no one ever came back to a game they'd left because "Look! Now with 20% fewer bugs and the same old content!" so the chances of this improving seem low.

    People do LEAVE games because of bugs tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phemt81 View Post
    First while running And the Dead Shall Rise

    else i d have trashed about 1 hour of playing (my first run there).
    it took an hour to do dead shall rise? D=
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    Quote Originally Posted by oweieie View Post
    The Emerald Claw guy DOES say he'll destroy it for you if you click yes.
    Yeah, it's pretty dumb, but it's not actually a bug.
    Please read my edit to OP. And thanks for your post!

    Quote Originally Posted by Qezuzu View Post
    I've never encountered any of those bugs, and I do know to talk to the SF guy BEFORE taking the old one out of the cache. Maybe you're cursed.
    My apologies, i don't get what you mean. Could you please rephrase that?
    What is the SF guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Qezuzu View Post
    Lag is a bigger problem IMO.
    Funny enough, a QA reprensentative contacted me, and he stated that bug has to do with lag. So, yeah lag is a big issue on DDO.

    Thanks for your post.

    Quote Originally Posted by oweieie View Post
    Anyone know if you can buy back the 10 charge from the vendor if the Emerald Claw guy destroys it? I'm guessing no.
    No, you can't. Therefore it is a bug.

    I did check my buy back tab of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by rokes View Post
    I doubt the black screen issue has anything to do with DDO, it's probably an issue with your computer
    LOL !

    Oh sorry, were you serious? If so then i gotta say i m playing from june 2010 and never had that issue...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrande View Post
    Yes, its possible. Don't remove your old Silver Flame Talisman from TR cache though prior to obtaining the Pendant. Don't know if this is WAI.
    +1 for being very informative on that matter

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrande View Post
    I have seen this, but it was just lag from the Orien's postal service. I tried again after a minute and it was okay. Don't think it was a bug though.

    This is working as intended. The quest giver did say they don't like the opposing faction and will remove the opposing faction's item.
    1st statement: sorry to contradict you, but the siberys framents are stuck in my mail now for more 3 days. Each time i log i get the same identhical bug

    2nd statement: read my edit to OP please.

    Thanks for posting everybody!

    Quote Originally Posted by azmodeus1 View Post
    it took an hour to do dead shall rise? D=
    Nice trolling.
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    We absolutely planned for Fighter to still have Haste Boost. It's absolutely a bug. Any similar issues that look "wrong" to any player should be bugged.
    Developers should fix this <--- 2020 edition!

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    @ the OP most likely the Black Screen was on your PC even though you may not think so.. Things like that do Happen. I know on my PC every time I die I get a white screen and can't see any thing. It is not DDO it is on my end.

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    There have been a lot of little bugs (and big ones for that matter) lately. One thing that happens is peoples start to loose trust. There is then a tendency to blame every issue on a bug. This perception issue can impact a players fun time.

    Here are some little bugs that I have noticed after the recent update. On one of my toons the number 8 spot on my 1st task bar has become corrupted. If I have cure serious potions in my pack, then no matter what I put in this spot, as soon as I use a cure serious potion, it overwrites this spot. A spot that I have used for six years on my number one task bar has now become unusable. I remapped the hotkey to another location. Also, while in combat occasionally the mob hitpoint bars all bug out and show incorrect values. Once I directly target them, I can see what HPs the mob actually has.

    And of course there is the artificer. I dont like playing this toon anymore. He kinda seems like a sick dog with a plastic cone around his neck and patches of fur missing. I know he still is the same old artificer but I just dont want to pet him anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phemt81 View Post
    Last night was really bad for DDO, and therefore, for my playing experience.

    First while running And the Dead Shall Rise i got a black screen right after killing the lich...
    That sir is an Technical Issue with your GPU - Graphics Card.

    Black screens are a well known error that occurs when the GPU inside the graphics card is failing due to becoming worn out or over heated. It can happen in any 3D application and is a Technical Error with your Hardware. It has nothing to do with DDO.
    So in everything, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Seaglen View Post
    I read in the forums somewhere that you could have more than one on a second lifer. I currently have the 10 charge item in my tr cache, and am working on the third tier of a new one (it's currently at 5 charges). It does not say it's exclusive so I should eventually be able to absorb up to 20 neg levels. I don't ever expect to need that many, 10 has always been ample, but I am curious to see if it will work.
    It will work. Sometimes having the extra 10 can be very handy, but only in a few quests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepsalot View Post
    @ the OP most likely the Black Screen was on your PC even though you may not think so.. Things like that do Happen. I know on my PC every time I die I get a white screen and can't see any thing. It is not DDO it is on my end.

    Sleeps
    Quote Originally Posted by AestorTheKnight View Post
    That sir is an Technical Issue with your GPU - Graphics Card.

    Black screens are a well known error that occurs when the GPU inside the graphics card is failing due to becoming worn out or over heated. It can happen in any 3D application and is a Technical Error with your Hardware. It has nothing to do with DDO.


    Quote Originally Posted by Phemt81 View Post
    Funny enough, a QA reprensentative contacted me, and he stated that bug has to do with lag. So, yeah lag is a big issue on DDO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    We absolutely planned for Fighter to still have Haste Boost. It's absolutely a bug. Any similar issues that look "wrong" to any player should be bugged.
    Developers should fix this <--- 2020 edition!

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    Yeps I thought that is what you would Do no one wants to hear the truth at all.. Good Luck with your PC. That can't have any issues at all. LoL
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