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    Default DDO`s difficulty:Noob easy button.

    Whats your own?<Edt:Notice-Translation from half english half koboldish down at post #3.>
    I got afew of myself.
    1)Warfoge arcane/Maybe +evasion
    2)Artificer warfoge.
    3)Favored soul warfoge.
    Oh oh i find out something intresting.
    What is in comment to all those 3?
    1)Warfoge<Ftw>
    2)Spellcasting.
    Well,If we`ll check it out,Almost any toon you`ll make have some style of 1 of those 2.
    Barbarian horc?Warfoge DR.
    Cleric drow?Spellcasting.
    Elf ranger?Ranged demage-Spellcasting<?>-Exception
    Halfing bard?SPellcasting.
    Dwarf rogue?I)Tanking as a warfoge,2)UMD,3)Arti? xD
    So-Have turbin done some mistake by adding to the game warfoge?
    And is there something i missed?
    Tyvm,
    Koaboa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StableKobold View Post
    Whats your own?
    I got afew of myself.
    1)Warfoge arcane/Maybe +evasion
    2)Artificer warfoge.
    3)Favored soul warfoge.
    Oh oh i find out something intresting.
    What is in comment to all those 3?
    1)Warfoge<Ftw>
    2)Spellcasting.
    Well,If we`ll check it out,Almost any toon you`ll make have some style of 1 of those 2.
    Barbarian horc?Warfoge DR.
    Cleric drow?Spellcasting.
    Elf ranger?Ranged demage-Spellcasting<?>-Exception
    Halfing bard?SPellcasting.
    Dwarf rogue?I)Tanking as a warfoge,2)UMD,3)Arti? xD
    So-Have turbin done some mistake by adding to the game warfoge?
    And is there something i missed?
    Tyvm,
    Koaboa.
    You missed stating your point for this thread, but from what I gather you think all WF casters be them arcane or divine are an easy button & you also think that Turbine made a mistake by incorporating a core race. The rest looks like VCR instructions in chinese to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenthalas View Post
    You missed stating your point for this thread, but from what I gather you think all WF casters be them arcane or divine are an easy button & you also think that Turbine made a mistake by incorporating a core race. The rest looks like VCR instructions in chinese to me.
    Sorry,Let me"Translate it". =P
    I have 2 questions.
    Firstly,What you think is the ddo's Noob easy button?
    And the second,Is-Why warfoges are so Overpowered?

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    Noob easy button?

    Mana pots.

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    I think Trolls are the most over powered race and are a noob easy button.

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    lol not bad-Tho,Mana pots require afew PPz-Which shall be aquired somehow,WHich require to have some charter b4.I speak about a first charter of every noob will pawn.

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    You forgot -50% healing amp, inability to use robes and armours (of which there are far more excellent named ones compared to docents), -2 CHA (= -1 DC/UMD), inherent arcane spell failure. Warforged are not overpowered or unbalanced.

    They were however unbalanced when they were considered the worst race in the game, bar none.

    I disagree with the notion that any class or race combination is an easy button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esserbe View Post
    You forgot -50% healing amp, inability to use robes and armours (of which there are far more excellent named ones compared to docents), -2 CHA (= -1 DC/UMD), inherent arcane spell failure. Warforged are not overpowered or unbalanced.

    They were however unbalanced when they were considered the worst race in the game, bar none.

    I disagree with the notion that any class or race combination is an easy button.
    Come on........ how can you not agree that trolls are over powered and are easy buttons?

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    Experience and Knowledge - DDO's Easy Buttons.
    Exit, pursued by a bear. ~ William Shakespeare (stage direction from The Winter's Tale)

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    Easy "corner store" access to potions and other magical effects.

    I want to say ship buffs also but frankly since the Devs' idea of proper game balance isn't terribly balanced anyway... meh.
    We've got three kinds of players here: Those who play DDO like it's WoW, those playing like it's Dungeons & Dragons, and those playing like it's a generic first person shooter. Choose your advice accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StableKobold View Post
    Sorry,Let me"Translate it". =P
    I have 2 questions.
    Firstly,What you think is the ddo's Noob easy button?
    And the second,Is-Why warfoges are so Overpowered?
    I think reading a selection of build and advice posts that eventually points one to the wiki is the New Player Easy button.

    Noobs can not benefit from any easy button, ever. They can only rage and hate when things do not go thier way.

    Note: Noob only reads as the filter bypassing insult version to me. i.e. Just another N word.

    I do not believe Warforged in themselves are currently overpowered. I do think that melee's have a defense system that has been neutered at the top levels, and therefore most do not build for it in the lower levels.
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    Llyren, Kelda and some others.

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    Ess-Now tell me the truth.
    Most of the guys who you see and know who are the best are?Sorcerer.
    Repair the sentence:The last guy standing?Warfoged wizard.
    That awesome healer who is also an amazing tank,High HP DR and SP?FvS-Mostly a warforged.
    That dude who saven us all on most of the quests,servove it,And use almsot no gear?
    Cleric18/monk2 who tanked sully.
    Other example for fine builds would be maybe rogue/monk,Barbarian,Fighter,And almost everything-But,
    Those require gear.
    All who i just said require potency,GFL,Wizardry and GS wepon<Maybe> and theyre rocking hard time.
    Ofc with a better gear they will even do better.
    Take for example the PvP arenas.
    Arcane rule there.
    Rest my case.

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    Greensteel and TRing are easy buttons. Maybe not n00b easy buttons, but easy buttons nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antheal View Post
    Greensteel and TRing are easy buttons. Maybe not n00b easy buttons, but easy buttons nonetheless.
    Greensteel-Agree.It`s easy to farm,Require 1 pack,And used by any newb.
    Tho-If you ask me,The fastest ways are just creating a naked caster.Get maxi,Empower,Toughtness,And at level 8 my alt named Spellmastery killing easily level 14 monks<Bun,Shub,Adaralan,Watsup? lol>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antheal View Post
    Greensteel and TRing are easy buttons. Maybe not n00b easy buttons, but easy buttons nonetheless.
    Greensteel-Agree.It`s easy to farm,Require 1 pack,And used by any newb.
    Tho-If you ask me,The fastest ways are just creating a naked caster.Get maxi,Empower,Toughtness,And at level 8 my alt named Spellmastery killing easily level 14 monks<Bun,Shub,Adaralan,Watsup? lol-I even dont have empower>

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    I used to think "metagaming and knowing the quests is the biggest easy button". Then I did the madness packs for the first time on my sorcerer, solo, on elite, without prior knowledge. The only quests that gave me any trouble were In The Flesh (That end fight is awesome, I wasn't ready for that) and Acute Delirium (so many respawning mobs - I easily got through this one by swapping in mass charm. Suggestion would be even better.).

    The dots are so broken. Cast one spell. Run away for 12 seconds. Cast the same spell again. At some point, you will win, no risk involved. They are the biggest "noob easy button" in the game.

    Quickened self-heals are close behind, but my fleshie sorc doesn't have those
    Kmnh * Kmn * Kmm * Knn * Knm

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    Quote Originally Posted by StableKobold View Post
    Ess-Now tell me the truth.
    Most of the guys who you see and know who are the best are?Sorcerer.
    Repair the sentence:The last guy standing?Warfoged wizard.
    That awesome healer who is also an amazing tank,High HP DR and SP?FvS-Mostly a warforged.
    That dude who saven us all on most of the quests,servove it,And use almsot no gear?
    Cleric18/monk2 who tanked sully.
    Other example for fine builds would be maybe rogue/monk,Barbarian,Fighter,And almost everything-But,
    Those require gear.
    All who i just said require potency,GFL,Wizardry and GS wepon<Maybe> and theyre rocking hard time.
    Ofc with a better gear they will even do better.
    Take for example the PvP arenas.
    Arcane rule there.
    Rest my case.
    DDO is not balanced towards PvP. It is an addon that gets nearly no attention.

    Many melee's only need Heavy Fort, some Hitpoint/Con gear, and a decent weapon to be "Epic Ready". Rogues add Trapskill gear for some quests. Ones with Tactics likely want something to add to those, possibly including a specific belt from the challenges.
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    Llyren, Kelda and some others.

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    Not bad!Dots,Warfoges,Spellcasters,Greensteel so far.+1 ; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lleren View Post
    DDO is not balanced towards PvP. It is an addon that gets nearly no attention.

    Many melee's only need Heavy Fort, some Hitpoint/Con gear, and a decent weapon to be "Epic Ready". Rogues add Trapskill gear for some quests. Ones with Tactics likely want something to add to those, possibly including a specific belt from the challenges.
    Sorcerer warfoge 20 holding 1 potency VI heavy mace,Nothing else,Fire savent,Heat death,Or air savent,Trip immune,Against barb 20 horc with 800 HP<Which is quite high> holding +5 greatsword.I know who wins.Chain lighting/Heat death is above 1k demage avrage,Empowered and maxied.Yea it is non balanced,Tho,This guy who i just spoke of<Sorcy> Can solo most of the quests in vale except shroud,Sully,And more,While the barb i spoke of wont do that good.

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    Ultimate easy button:

    Wining the lottery and making people to play for you for 6$ an hour. YEAH!!
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