XP for level 25 TR vs. non-TR

[gloopygloop]

A capped first life character earned 1.9 million XP to reach that cap.

A capped second life character earned 3.1 million XP to reach that cap.

A capped third life character earned 4.3 million XP to reach that cap.

What are the XP tables for reaching level 25 going to look like? Are the massively (almost three times as much XP required at level 20) inflated XP requirements going to be massively inflated from level 21 through level 25 as well? Are they going to be even more inflated than level 20 is?

Should third and later life characters just accept the fact that they're going to be running quests at -99% XP for extreme repetition to squeeze out every drop of possible XP to hit those Epic levels?


A developer comment on Turbine's intentions for "Epic" XP would be very much appreciated.

[Lithic]

More likely hitting 20 unlocks the "Epic mode" of leveling, which requires exp from epic quests and is the same progression for 28pters and TR37s. TRing will also likely be unlocked at any point after hitting 20, rather than at the new cap.

[voodoogroves]

More likely hitting 20 unlocks the "Epic mode" of leveling, which requires exp from epic quests and is the same progression for 28pters and TR37s. TRing will also likely be unlocked at any point after hitting 20, rather than at the new cap.

Ya know, you're going to hit 37 before Druid is out ...

[Freeman]

Just my guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if epic levels used a different mechanic than XP. There's no way they can launch the expansion with enough quests to supply the XP needed if it followed the existing curve.(Unless they dump a lot of challenges on us and call those "quests") I have no idea how the epic levels will be implemented though, so this is just speculation.

[falcon2030]

I would love a little more info on this as well. As a slow TR leveler and working on a completionist cleric atm, I am curious if I will be spending my retirement years getting lvl 21-25 , of couse assuming DDO is around that long

[gloopygloop]

More likely hitting 20 unlocks the "Epic mode" of leveling, which requires exp from epic quests and is the same progression for 28pters and TR37s. TRing will also likely be unlocked at any point after hitting 20, rather than at the new cap.

I very much hope that this (or something like this) will be the path that they decide to take.

[Impaqt]

I havent counted, but I'm pretty sure that there more 20+ content than any other level in the game.

If they can figure out a way to do away with repetition penalties in Epic, I think theres more than enough quests to keep people interested.

[Thrudh]

Ya know, you're going to hit 37 before Druid is out ...

Going to have to be 40 now.

[Thrudh]

More likely hitting 20 unlocks the "Epic mode" of leveling, which requires exp from epic quests and is the same progression for 28pters and TR37s. TRing will also likely be unlocked at any point after hitting 20, rather than at the new cap.

Yes, I hope this is how it works....

[Pank]

Well there is some XP in the current game that can be got for a lvl 20 (and over) character: any lvl 17 quest on elite gives no penalty XP to a lvl 20 toon, just like lvl 18 on hard and lvl 19 on norm.
On top of that you have epics which can start to give some serious XP, and this adds quite a large amout of quests: Phiarlan Carnival, Sentinels, Menechtarum, eDA...
One other thing that comes to my mind is Bravery Bonus + Bravery Streak. Come to think of it, it is even possible it was added to the game in anticipation to this level cap raise.
So for a first life toon, getting to 25 should not be some really difficult IF there is a reasonable amount of new quests in the 20-25 lvl range.

[Lithic]

Yes, I hope this is how it works....

If not, its "only" going to be 3.6mill exp from 20-25 for a TR2+

[DogMania]

You should be aware that your XP is currently being stacked so when this does come out you may find you are lvl25 already. And you ask how do I know this?, well it stated it when you capped if you bothered to notice.

[TempestAlphaOmega]

More likely hitting 20 unlocks the "Epic mode" of leveling, which requires exp from epic quests and is the same progression for 28pters and TR37s. TRing will also likely be unlocked at any point after hitting 20, rather than at the new cap.

This was my thoughts exactly as soon as I read about the epic levels.

[QuantumFX]

I fully expect all the level 25+ quests to follow the quest XP progression established in levels 17-20. Meaning: 1,000 base XP on elite for a 2 hour long quest.

[Thebeest]

You should be aware that your XP is currently being stacked so when this does come out you may find you are lvl25 already. And you ask how do I know this?, well it stated it when you capped if you bothered to notice.

if this is the case wouldn't you be only lvl 22 as you cant bank more than 1 level?

[Cyr]

More likely hitting 20 unlocks the "Epic mode" of leveling, which requires exp from epic quests and is the same progression for 28pters and TR37s. TRing will also likely be unlocked at any point after hitting 20, rather than at the new cap.

Which would still be a major disincentive from TRing unless you get to keep your epic xp when you TR as otherwise any endgame playing that you run before you TR is 'lost' XP.

[sephiroth1084]

It would be nice if the devs did a sweep and normalized XP a bit through the levels.

Just ran 2 of the Cannith flags on elite and got 12,000 and 14,000 XP respectively with first time elite +80%, Elite Bravery x5 +25%, Voice of the Master +5%, and ship XP shrine +3%. That's ****ing PITIFUL!

[KillEveryone]

Are we going to have to hit lvl 25 before we TR or will we still be able to TR at 20?

[JeisonBlade]

More likely hitting 20 unlocks the "Epic mode" of leveling, which requires exp from epic quests and is the same progression for 28pters and TR37s. TRing will also likely be unlocked at any point after hitting 20, rather than at the new cap.

see that would make sense and be logical so...i doubt thats how it will work

[Gremmlynn]

I havent counted, but I'm pretty sure that there more 20+ content than any other level in the game.

If they can figure out a way to do away with repetition penalties in Epic, I think theres more than enough quests to keep people interested.

I would suspect some real time erosion, along the lines of chest ransack reset, of the repetition penalties. That would seem to be a win-win for Turbine as it supports selling content through player impatience to continue while not pushing them into massively expanding epic content.

Unless they really mess things up and make players wait on new releases in order for there to be enough xp available to even get the last few levels.