Ranger with one lvl of fighter?

[SSFWEl]

I have a lvl 9 Elf, standard vanilla build AA ranger. I was thinking of splashing a single lvl of fighter to get an extra feat (I really want oversized also). Yes I know multiple classing needs to be planned before yada yada.

1. If I take a lvl of fighter at lvl 10, do I get to choose a fighter feat? Because a ranger does not get to choose a feat at lvl 10, and a fighter gets a fighter feat (don't think I can choose Oversized). But this would be a lvl 1 fighter level kinda thing. I never multiclassed so I don't know. or do I need to wait to lvl 12 where a a fighter can choose any feat.

2. Is it even worth splashing 1 level of fighter? From what I read, pure AA does not give such an advantage.

3. Is it still worth using my scimitar? Fighter get more weapon choices. Here I am pretty sure yes, because of the Elf scimitar etc bonuses.

Thanks!

[kuro_zero]

Every character gets a feat at first level, third level, and every three levela thereafter from the full feat list.

In addition to this, fighters get bonus feats from a subset of the feat list first level, and every even fighter level thereafter. If you took the fighter level at 12, you would choose 2 feats.

You could indeed that fighter as your 10th level and gain a feat, oversized would be selectable as it is part of fighter subset.

By multiclassing, you lose the ranger capstone and the final favored enemy (perhaps more importantly the stacking +2 damage to all favored enemies). Fighter gives you an extra feat, haste boost enhancement, and a tier of toughness.

I'll leave it to you to decide if the trade-off is worth it. If tou do decide on taking fighter, I recomend 2 level splash as you do give up a whole lot more and gain another feat and fighter strength 1 enhancement.

Fighters and rangers gain the same weapon proficiencies - fighter bonus feats open up the ability to take an exotic proficiency (khopesh being one of the best DPS weapons in the game due to its crit profile). If to-hit is a concern for you, scimitar is your best bet and it isn't terrible with the enhancements DPS wise.

[baddax]

I have a lvl 9 Elf, standard vanilla build AA ranger. I was thinking of splashing a single lvl of fighter to get an extra feat (I really want oversized also). Yes I know multiple classing needs to be planned before yada yada.

1. If I take a lvl of fighter at lvl 10, do I get to choose a fighter feat? Because a ranger does not get to choose a feat at lvl 10, and a fighter gets a fighter feat (don't think I can choose Oversized). But this would be a lvl 1 fighter level kinda thing. I never multiclassed so I don't know. or do I need to wait to lvl 12 where a a fighter can choose any feat.

2. Is it even worth splashing 1 level of fighter? From what I read, pure AA does not give such an advantage.

3. Is it still worth using my scimitar? Fighter get more weapon choices. Here I am pretty sure yes, because of the Elf scimitar etc bonuses.

Thanks!

1) As an AA i would say its not worth it to splash fighter. Ranged rangers benifit significantly from the current capstone. However many tempests will spalsh other classes including fighter becuase there is usually little benifit for the capstone.
2) As for the fighter level, you can splash fighter any level and will get the free feat regardless. And yes you can take OTWF. the fighter feat selection is listed in the Compendium.
3) All rangers get the TWFing feats for fre so yes there is significant benifit from 2 scimitars or any other single handed melee weapon, however the elf enhancemnts make scimitars a great choice.
4) oh and yada yada

[SSFWEl]

thanks. darn you guys did not make the choice easier, so I am still confused and not sure if I should do it.

1)
4) oh and yada yada

lol, point taken after all

[kuro_zero]

A well playrd AA should be ranging only with manyshot, and meleeing when manyshot is on timer.

The loss of ranged alclarity is partially recouped via fighter haste boost.

[CountHenri]

Dont splash an AA build ~ the capstone helps and ranged builds need all the help they can get. Dont mean that in a nasty way but Ranged DPS overall is well behind Melee DPS as the game works now...

If your plan is to Manyshot then pull out a couple of weapons and carve your name on their body then dont go AA...

An 18/2 ranger/fighter combo is nice for Tempests (2 extra feats in exchange for a Meh Capstone)...

My Dwarf Tempest is this 18/2 Split and he uses a Bow of Sinew (with appropriate arrows loaded) to Manyshot Raid Bosses before pulling out the Daxes and charge in screaming "Today is a Good Day for Someone Else to Die!"...

Once I finish his Epic Thornlord it'll be even more fun...

Overall it comes down to how you plan to inflict a world of hurt on your opponent...

[SSFWEl]

If your plan is to Manyshot then pull out a couple of weapons and carve your name on their body then dont go AA...
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Hmm. That is EXACTLY what I do now.

I feel I am simply not doing much as ranged, except for picking off hard to get mobs, or pulling. So I shoot first, and then pull out scimitar and dagger or whatever is best for that moment.

So now I am indeed thinking maybe about a LR into a tempest that can still shoot and then I take a 1-2 levels of fighter.
I posted a thread a few days ago about making a tempest that is still good with ranged, but that plan was not so good: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=336557.

[PNellesen]

My Dwarf Tempest is this 18/2 Split and he uses a Bow of Sinew (with appropriate arrows loaded) to Manyshot Raid Bosses before pulling out the Daxes...

I have an 18R/2F Dwarf Tempest who does the same thing. I really, really like playing that character, and he does some insane damage with that same bow on Manyshot. I've not played an AA yet, but I agree with the others - if you're going to splash 1 level of Fighter, you should probably go ahead and splash 2 levels. You'll likely have more feats than you know what to do with