New German server: bad for G-Land

[SirValentine]

Ghallanda was greatly enriched by the large body of veteran Euro players that were moved to our server. Sadly, the new dedicated German-speaking server is likely going to lure a good number of these players away from G-Land.

To my German-speaking fellow gamers: I've enjoyed running with you. Best of luck if you decide to move to the new Wayfinder server. I hope you'll consider staying on Ghallanda, though.

[Quarterling]

Wouldn't they have to pay in order to transfer their characters over to the new server? Or do they get free transfers because it's language/region-based? I thought that this would more or less apply to new Germans that are interested in starting to play DDO.

[karl_k0ch]

Transfers to Wayfinder are 13$/10€/10 GBP/1400 TP per Character, VIPs get 3 for free, Premium players get 1 for free.

I don't think that this will cause a large character-drain. After all, we are talking here about people who came to terms that they are playing an english game.

[Bechtinger]

I would have to pay way to much to get there and what will i get on a new server?

* An empty auction house
* no trade community
* who will I be running epis with?
* i cant easily pug my way through TRs there
* I'll miss all the nice ppl that i got to know on G-Land
* I'll loose my awesome guild

So why should anyone go there?

[XaesLiech]

I agree with Elendorick.

+There will be so many new players I would certainly going nuts in the first hour playing there.

[Vellrad]

Its not bad because they'll leave, but because those who'll stay may encounter people with 'GTFO to ur own server n00b' attitudes.

[Micron]

I don't understand this tbh. Why would German players want to isolate themselves on a new, empty server?
I can understand the benefits of playing exclusively with people who speak the same language, but I have played DDO with Germans for 5 years and I don't remember meeting one whose English was not good enough for communication in any quest or raid.

Maybe I'm underestimating the total number of German players, but I'm thinking it's more likely that Turbine is overestimating it and there won't be sufficient demand to populate a thriving server with a working economy.

Let alone the fact that a large portion of German players have come from the English speaking Euro servers and have ties with other non-Germans that go back several years.

[Vellrad]

I don't understand this tbh. Why would German players want to isolate themselves on a new, empty server?
I can understand the benefits of playing exclusively with people who speak the same language, but I have played DDO with Germans for 5 years and I don't remember meeting one whose English was not good enough for communication in any quest or raid.

Maybe I'm underestimating the total number of German players, but I'm thinking it's more likely that Turbine is overestimating it and there won't be sufficient demand to populate a thriving server with a working economy.

Let alone the fact that a large portion of German players have come from the English speaking Euro servers and have ties with other non-Germans that go back several years.

I foresee a big advertising camapign in Germany/Austria/Switzerland

[Buggss]

I can only assume some survey of players with German locations has been done and they've had enough of a positive response to make another server worthwhile.

I've only ever known of one German player and he hasn't played for quite a while.

Hopefully not TOO much funding has gone into what I personally see as a bit of a waste and I don't believe the transfer fees they'll receive will be up to requirements.

Then again what do I know?

[Ugumagre]

I think it is a natural move from Turbine to get NEW players at the GAMESCOM.
I am amazed how much complaining comes in the forum for every move Turbine makes.
More servers, more classes, changes in the game... for me this means that Turbine and DDO are alive and moving on.
I have a total positive feeling about it.
It is not a move to restructarate the servers and separate people, it is a move to increase the business.

[ainmosni]

Its not bad because they'll leave, but because those who'll stay may encounter people with 'GTFO to ur own server n00b' attitudes.

vellrad, you're awesome, but i disagree with every part of this post. it'll be bad when they leave, a big loss to ghallanda, and i dont think there's anyone on ghallanda who would want them to GTFO our server, except maybe the people no one cares to party with, and well.... no one cares about them :P

[Micron]

I think it is a natural move from Turbine to get NEW players at the GAMESCOM.
I am amazed how much complaining comes in the forum for every move Turbine makes.
More servers, more classes, changes in the game... for me this means that Turbine and DDO are alive and moving on.
I have a total positive feeling about it.
It is not a move to restructarate the servers and separate people, it is a move to increase the business.

I don't see any complaining in this thread. We're just discussing whether it makes sense or not.

If Turbine can attract enough new players to populate another server, good for them I guess. I have my doubts about it but I might be wrong of course. Chances are they actually know what they're doing.

[Sirokko]

Personally, i'm sure that dedicated national-language server is a FAIL move. MMORPG is supposed to unite people, not separate them. New server is good, dedicated GE server - bad. Well, GE- located server could be smart move, for reducing latency, if game have sufficient amount europe and germany in particular player base.

But anyway its all speculations. As i can see we all can benefit at least from 1st time favor-bonuses from new server. and aside from that new server is not doing any harm for current player base. It may not meet turbines expectations after all, but why should anyone exept that particular turbine manager who generated that idea bother

[Flavilandile]

vellrad, you're awesome, but i disagree with every part of this post. it'll be bad when they leave, a big loss to ghallanda, and i dont think there's anyone on ghallanda who would want them to GTFO our server, except maybe the people no one cares to party with, and well.... no one cares about them :P

All those that wanted to leave Ghallanda already left... as soon as they got their characters from Europe.

Personally I see that as a proof that DDO is quite alive. Now the good thing would be to know the reason,
beside the fact that there might be enough German already playing to allow for a new server. ( as I don't think they are going to move en masse to said new server.

While Gamescom might be the occasion, I think it's not enough to explain that launch. Is Turbine launching an ad campaign in Germany ? ( that might explain the launch )

[Ugumagre]

I don't see any complaining in this thread. We're just discussing whether it makes sense or not.

If Turbine can attract enough new players to populate another server, good for them I guess. I have my doubts about it but I might be wrong of course. Chances are they actually know what they're doing.

Ok, I mean more "negative feelings" or "bad vibrations".
If it is a good move or a bad move, well, we will see.
Quoting freely Bertold Brecht (yes, I also hate people that quote Bertold Brecht ):
"I don´t know if changing things will make things better, but to make things better, you have to change things"

[Jiirix]

It is true that most germans of a certain age can speak english good enough to communicate in a quest or raid. I think the new server targets the younger ones, for those kids learning english is part of the everyday school life. I would encourage my own kids to play on an international server like G-Land and speak english, but I can understand the kids that want to chat away in their mothertounge after school. And believe me, you don't want those on your server, be glad the little ones have their own playground.

[Arnhelm]

While this will probably have minimal impact initially, in the long run this will cause lower Ghallanda populations, imo.

[Ganolyn]

I heard that they got Arnold Schwarzenegger to do the DM/NPC voice-overs to entice players over there. I personally would pay good money to hear him say "We've beaten them off... for now." and "Kobold still hate you!" myself.

[karl_k0ch]

I heard that they got Arnold Schwarzenegger to do the DM/NPC voice-overs to entice players over there. I personally would pay good money to hear him say "We've beaten them off... for now." and "Kobold still hate you!" myself.

Why would the DM need to talk bad english wif a heavy german akzent when adressing a german audience?

[Ganolyn]

Why would the DM need to talk bad english wif a heavy german akzent when adressing a german audience?

Why would you assume I was even remotely serious?