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    Default Turbine: why is swearing a bannable offence?

    since the chat filter is on from the start, a player HAS to take it of and fully realises what they are doing, so why do you make swearing bannable?

    not arguing, just want an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattysixEU View Post
    since the chat filter is on from the start, a player HAS to take it of and fully realises what they are doing, so why do you make swearing bannable?

    not arguing, just want an answer.

    Because word and text filters are not "Permission"

    This is a Private game. The only answer you need is.

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    Because it is.

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    http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=66

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    The profanity filter is not there to allow people to swear with impunity. The filter is there to help assist people who want to keep profanity out of their game experience. Just because a word is filtered does not mean the person swearing does not need to follow the community guidelines. Cursing in-game can result in disciplinary action, even if caught by the profanity filter. This has been the case all along, and is not new.
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    Simply because Turbine says so, and it's their playground.

    I would venture to guess that they don't want their game kid-unfriendly as it would decrease the possible player base.
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    There are whole famlilies who play DDO together. Turning off the filter is quite simple for an inquisitive youngster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattysixEU View Post
    since the chat filter is on from the start, a player HAS to take it of and fully realises what they are doing, so why do you make swearing bannable?

    not arguing, just want an answer.
    Ive seen this excuse used in every MMO ive played.

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    Because word and text filters are not "Permission"

    This is a Private game. The only answer you need is.

    "Because thats the way turbine runs the game"
    This is the answer.

    Its not a matter of "dont turn the chat filter off if you dont like it" and if you think it is, its a matter of one mere technicality anyhow. Harassment is an offense and the difference is the person has to ask you to refrain from doing it once before its considered harassment. usually the arguements in general chat are as follows: Person swears. Person2 asks them to refrain. Person tells them to turn the chat filter on if they dont like it, then continues to swear. Person disappears for a few days.

    What I find alot of MMO producers dont like is people who walk the fine line between perfectly fine and ban-able offense. Make that line more vague and people tend to error more on the side of caution, because they know that whats funny to some is offending to others.
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    the chat filter disable is there so that friends can say the odd '****' or 'sh**' in a party. I doubt anyone would get banned for that. But if you spam general chat with 'VATIC*** VATIC*** VATIC*** VATIC*** VATIC*** VATIC*** VATIC*** VATIC*** ' well, you can expect some measures to be taken.
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    and the filter works but not in tells, if it is in tells it can be taken as unwarrented, but used in a chat you must remove the block thus it is not abke to be used against you.

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    Honestly, people already swear up a storm in voice chat. Do you really need to be able to type in your swear words too?

    It's like second hand smoke. You might enjoy swearing but those around you don't need to have their playing experience ruined.

    I would definitely not allow my kids to play if swearing were allowed in typing chat and as it is, they can't listen to voice chat unless they are playing with people we know.

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    for one thing the filter is to senstive and filters words that arent profane for another a mature person doesnt need to and shouldnt use profanity slipping in voice chat is one thing but you have actualy think out what you type so there is no slip there.
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    Ok, I'm going to turn this around a bit.

    Why do you WANT to use profanity in open chat?
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    I like "because this is now wow", as a secondary answer.
    Helps prevent something common over there in city areas and some other zones. It's also logical as an answer to why the filter eats item links like scepter of spell *********** VI.

    Find a former wow player and ask them about barrens chat. We don't need or want that here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodic View Post
    and the filter works but not in tells, if it is in tells it can be taken as unwarrented, but used in a chat you must remove the block thus it is not abke to be used against you.
    If you read the moderator quote above you will see you are incorrect. Many people have been banned for swearing in party or general chat.

    Most people turn off the filter because it filters in game words, like spell pen and even some quest names so it isn't very usuable.

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    To paraphrase every parent every where...
    Because I .[Turbine]. said so.


    That's really about it. Turbine wishes language to be clean on their servers, and since it's their game that takes place on their property - that's their right. The existence of the filter is just one more degree of enforcing that wish. In fact, the filter should be a clue that Turbine does not want that kind of language being tossed about at all.
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    Part of it is because the filter couldn't possibly be programmed to cover every swear word in every language used by every Turbine customer. It requires actual human judgement to decide what is really objectionable. It just helps to filter some of the most common ones.

    For example: There is a sword type in the game that some people might object to in RL but it really has nothing at all to do with the wedlock status of a fellow's father. So should the filter cover that? I hope it wouldn't but I leave the filter off because of stuff like that.

    Or you can just accept the common answer (it is at least as valid) given here: It is Turbine's sandbox and they make the rules.
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    Lol!

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    'Cause Turbine says, and it's Turbine's playground we're having fun in. Filter's just there to censor out any nasty stuff pouring out before the culprit gets caught.
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