why i have leave elite shroud

[Camarde]

I was on a elite shourd this night, just for fun, i have done elite shroud a long time ago (with nearly all my alts).
I was on my cleric Immortel-1 (2rogue/2pala/16cleric).
Every thing goes well until part 3-4.
I was regenning mana in pool in part 3 then run to portail to go to part 4 and all the group have clear trash, other cleric was close to 0 mana, boss was coming realling soon and i said ' why didnt u wait me to regen mana?".
They accuse me ' it s not time to craft, craft at end...." and i was just regening mana in part 3 pool.
If u do a elite shourd, and dont have the patience to wait ur cleric regening mana, then accuse him to being crafting, u have missed something!
I have said "if u cant wait the cleric, it s that u dont need me, bb" and leave.
Some people are upset about that.
I have no regret.
And will never have.

PQ: in fact i hate to be rude, for me the game is have fun, be good, and be NICE! i could have easily just go on, drink a lot of pots and do it well until end....... but people dont wait, then accuse me, is too much to just say "nvm i go on", the only thing hard (not really hard but ressoucres intensive) in elite shroud is healing part, have a few respect for u healer that accept to join ur elite pug sounds a basis for me !

For ur blacklist : Uman-1 / Menta-1 / Immortel-1 / Amnu / Vieuxsage / Bhouda / Amelune / Camarde / Immortel / Malfonction .... and a few other

[Lorien_the_First_One]

It takes about well under 30 seconds to regenerate SP in the pool... sounds like you were behind a lot longer that that.

And good you abandoned and entire group for the words of a couple people, I'm sure you have made lots of friends.

[Camarde]

It takes about well under 30 seconds to regenerate SP in the pool... sounds like you were behind a lot longer that that.

And good you abandoned and entire group for the words of a couple people, I'm sure you have made lots of friends.

It seems that the 30 second to regen mana was too long for them to wait so yes i m happy to have make friend, and ty for ur really good comment.

[Keybreaker]

I don't know the specific circumstances of your particular Shroud... but I have never understood the fountain SP regen at the end of pt3. Sure, it's unavoidable at the beginning of pt5 to regen SP in fountains... but at the end of pt3, buff BEFORE you shrine.

If every single cleric, fvs, bard, ranger is down to 0 mana having exhausted all their SP clickies, and absolutely can not buff without shrining... something is very hinkey. No need to overbuff: FoM for the people (non-WF), FR for those without FR ship buff, and GH for those without GH clickies. Tear it up.

[Camarde]

I don't know the specific circumstances of your particular Shroud... but I have never understood the fountain SP regen at the end of pt3. Sure, it's unavoidable at the beginning of pt5 to regen SP in fountains... but at the end of pt3, buff BEFORE you shrine.

If every single cleric, fvs, bard, ranger is down to 0 mana having exhausted all their SP clickies, and absolutely can not buff without shrining... something is very hinkey. No need to overbuff: FoM for the people (non-WF), FR for those without FR ship buff, and GH for those without GH clickies. Tear it up.

Useless comment imo

[NinjaCereal]

I don't know the specific circumstances of your particular Shroud... but I have never understood the fountain SP regen at the end of pt3. Sure, it's unavoidable at the beginning of pt5 to regen SP in fountains... but at the end of pt3, buff BEFORE you shrine.

If every single cleric, fvs, bard, ranger is down to 0 mana having exhausted all their SP clickies, and absolutely can not buff without shrining... something is very hinkey. No need to overbuff: FoM for the people (non-WF), FR for those without FR ship buff, and GH for those without GH clickies. Tear it up.

^this^

[grandeibra]

+1 keybreaker.

I have never understood why people don't do this.

And regardless. Op, leaving a raid bc of comments of a couple is beyond lame. Even in your subjective version of what happened you come off as unfriendly

[Camarde]

+1 keybreaker.

I have never understood why people don't do this.

And regardless. Op, leaving a raid bc of comments of a couple is beyond lame. Even in your subjective version of what happened you come off as unfriendly

They all have not wait, and it was too late for comment when ur facing the part4 boss fight, specially when u are healing.
It s not subjective at all, doing a elite shroud and not waiting ur cleric to be rdy before rush in part4, is definitly something bad.
I had to sell repair and regen 400sp and they couldnt wait that, in a ELITE pug shroud.

[chrisgina39]

would have done the same well i would have done something much much worse but sounds like they where ________

never make a healer mad

[Haikusamurai]

okay, first off, 30 seconds to regen in the pool? maybe if you just did some light buffing yeah, but not when you are putting out a ton of buffs. Second, buff before you shrine? what a jerk thing to suggest. Oh, you don't need any buffs at all, but I do. So selfish on your part there, but then who cares if the cleric or favoredsoul gets to keep his buffs. I have left plenty of runs with my healer when people are zerging, or just plain being jerks, a healer is not something to toss around and not care about.

[chrisgina39]

theres a fine like between annoying a healer and annoying a healer

[Dark-Gulrak]

for the people (non-WF),

Hey WF are people too! .. we just want to enslave the human race, that's all



and Elves


and Dwarves

and Horcs

and Helfs .. no wait .. now those .. those aren't people, they are Martians in disguise

and drow ..

Halflings cant be enslaved sorry

[jdawg70]

Sorry, but how much SP were you regenning? Part 3 is just a lil healing (ok maybe a little more on elite).
But you or another cleric should be by the pool anyways healing ppl as they run in.
There is a shrine close by as well. Shouldn't take very long at all. bad form on there part for leaving you.
Bad form on your part for quitting. A bad Cleric rep gets around very fast (faster than you can regen SP).

[Keybreaker]

Hey WF are people too! .. we just want to enslave the human race, that's all

I only wish Harry would cast Hold Rohobos instead of Hold Person... I'd never give out FoM... NEVER!

[Camarde]

Sorry, but how much SP were you regenning? Part 3 is just a lil healing (ok maybe a little more on elite).
But you or another cleric should be by the pool anyways healing ppl as they run in.
There is a shrine close by as well. Shouldn't take very long at all. bad form on there part for leaving you.
Bad form on your part for quitting. A bad Cleric rep gets around very fast (faster than you can regen SP).

And so what was i slow or fast? did i take time or not? did i have good reason or not?
---> would u go in part 4 elite pug shroud without ur cleric rdy?

[donfilibuster]

Chances are OP is right and the shroud leader started without waiting, which could have been a delay of mere seconds.

Usually the cleric buffs then shrines, but then self buff and go to the pool which dun take long.
While that happens the group gathers for haste and begin zoning in BUT dun start the fight.

The shroud leader checks if everyone is in and since the healer is by then moving to the portal they begin with the trash.
The healer, however, has only so much time to spend in the pool and must tell the group to wait if there's delay.

It is still the leader's duty to make sure ppl is rdy for part 4, the leader could have asked the OP to hurry up.
On the other side, the OP could have told them in chat to wait a bit.
After all, part 4 is a team effort.

[alcosebahair]

Chances are OP is right and the shroud leader started without waiting, which could have been a delay of mere seconds.

Usually the cleric buffs then shrines, but then self buff and go to the pool which dun take long.
While that happens the group gathers for haste and begin zoning in BUT dun start the fight.

The shroud leader checks if everyone is in and since the healer is by then moving to the portal they begin with the trash.
The healer, however, has only so much time to spend in the pool and must tell the group to wait if there's delay.

It is still the leader's duty to make sure ppl is rdy for part 4, the leader could have asked the OP to hurry up.
On the other side, the OP could have told them in chat to wait a bit.
After all, part 4 is a team effort.

i agree with this guy! and i agree with the OP in some ways, and i also disagree a bit in some ways.. yes, they should wait but imho, i repeat imho, the only buffs needed by cleric for part 4 is fom and resist fire... 50 sp max to be used, since you will just heal from afar but also, if the other healer has 0 sp left and attrae is still coming, i agree that no point in healing it, number 1: you are 16 cleric only so no mass heal... and number 2: if they drain all the sp of cleric 1, then that means THAT group is not that good, meaning why waste sp pots but for me, you should have let them die instead of recalling and leaving group ehehe but still, play the game for fun, if you fail, its a lesson learned so chill out and relax

[sweez]

I don't know the specific circumstances of your particular Shroud... but I have never understood the fountain SP regen at the end of pt3. Sure, it's unavoidable at the beginning of pt5 to regen SP in fountains... but at the end of pt3, buff BEFORE you shrine.

If every single cleric, fvs, bard, ranger is down to 0 mana having exhausted all their SP clickies, and absolutely can not buff without shrining... something is very hinkey. No need to overbuff: FoM for the people (non-WF), FR for those without FR ship buff, and GH for those without GH clickies. Tear it up.

This. I *never* understood refilling mana in part 3. Just blow all your mana on people before shrining (if you're out of mana by the end of part 3, even with 5 minutes of the wall, reroll), then shrine and buff yourself. If giving fire res/fom to yourself significantly decreases your mana pool, reroll.

If I'm on my FvS I'll just jump into part 4 as soon as possible and hope other people follow me, who cares if we're missing an arcane or a divine for the trash.

[Krag]

I don't know the specific circumstances of your particular Shroud... but I have never understood the fountain SP regen at the end of pt3. Sure, it's unavoidable at the beginning of pt5 to regen SP in fountains... but at the end of pt3, buff BEFORE you shrine.

If every single cleric, fvs, bard, ranger is down to 0 mana having exhausted all their SP clickies, and absolutely can not buff without shrining... something is very hinkey. No need to overbuff: FoM for the people (non-WF), FR for those without FR ship buff, and GH for those without GH clickies. Tear it up.

This.
Refilling mana in pt3 is a waste of everyones time.

[PNellesen]

Chances are OP is right and the shroud leader started without waiting, which could have been a delay of mere seconds.

Usually the cleric buffs then shrines, but then self buff and go to the pool which dun take long.

While that happens the group gathers for haste and begin zoning in BUT dun start the fight.

The shroud leader checks if everyone is in and since the healer is by then moving to the portal they begin with the trash.
The healer, however, has only so much time to spend in the pool and must tell the group to wait if there's delay.

It is still the leader's duty to make sure ppl is rdy for part 4, the leader could have asked the OP to hurry up.
On the other side, the OP could have told them in chat to wait a bit.
After all, part 4 is a team effort.

^^ This.

In Bold is exactly how I do it - buff party before shrining, then self-buff, then hit pool. Knowing the trick to fast regen in the pool helps speed it up, but still - is it going to KILL them to wait an extra minute or 2 or 3? (We know it kills them if they DON'T...)