No benefits for four year P2P players?

[Angelican]

This is basically just a gripe as I'm not really expecting anything to be accomplished other than my feeling better after venting.

So here's the deal, I've been playing since release and been paying subscription since the first 30 day trial ended. That's four years of paid subscription. After they opened the DDO Store I couldn't imagine how much I've spent buying points for rez cakes, mana potions, tomes of supreme ability, etc. However, ends up my bank account didn't have quite enough left to cover the subscription for this month and the subscription was cancelled. No big deal because payday is next week. What I'm surprised to find while playing as F2P for the first time, is that after 4 years of being a paying player, as soon as your subscription ends you no longer have access to anything! No Adventure Packs, No shared bank slot, no Warforge, no favored soul, nothing! So now I'm wondering, should I use my money on payday to return to a paying subscriber and have the same thing possibly happen again when money is tight or should I stay as F2P and simply purchase all the content individually? My guess is I've already spent well over what buying everything individually would have costed by being a subscriber for 4 years. So if I simply put the money into buying each "upgrade" and not paying a monthly amount again, I would always have it intead of loosing everything as soon as I can't make a monthly payment. Am I wrong? Pay every month and have it all taken away as soon as you can't pay or pay for everything individually and have it forever without the need to keep paying every month. Seems to me the latter would be cheaper in the long run? Correct? Now if there were some benefit to being a paying subscriber for 4 years (like a 30 day grace period after the subscription is cancelled) then maybe I'd give it more thought. But currently I'm thinking remaining F2P and buying what I use is cheaper and more secure in the long run.

[FlyingTurtle]

4 years = 48 months; *500 free TP per month = 24000 TP = enough to buy every single adventure pack.

[AyumiAmakusa]

4 years = 48 months; *500 free TP per month = 24000 TP = enough to buy every single adventure pack.

I'm guessing the OP used that on rez cakes.

[Mr_Tank]

4 years = 48 months; *500 free TP per month = 24000 TP = enough to buy every single adventure pack.

Only been getting TP since mod 9. So 12*500=6000

[DMCain]

While F2P, pick up the packs you enjoy the most (if TP are available), then go back to P2P when you can. If/when money gets tight again, you'll still have access to those areas.

I know a guy that was F2P, bought all the packs and account options then went P2P. He decided that if he ever got tight in the wallet, he could drop sub and still have all the goodies.

[Yshkabibble]

I agree. I have been paying my electric bill for **** near 20 years and have yet to get anything special from them.

[Xeraphim]

nevermind

[Rumbaar]

Yes, this is the rent or buy argument.

I went with buy.

You've rented the game for 4 years, and after you stop paying rent you don't have access to anything that renting grants you.

I brought, and I have mine forever [life of game].

[English_Warrior]

4 years = 48 months; *500 free TP per month = 24000 TP = enough to buy every single adventure pack.

If you look at it from another way its even worse than that....

$15 per month for 48 months = $720

$720 will get you around 44,000 - 72,000 TP (depending upon offers/bundle size)



The net result is us premium players who started around a year ago spent FAR FAR less money and now own all the content in the game with no subscription fee. Yikes. I too would be a bit miffed.

[Uska]

4 years = 48 months; *500 free TP per month = 24000 TP = enough to buy every single adventure pack.

we havent been getting TP for the whole time though

[Nyvn]

I went P2P right after the store launched and it's been a great decision for me. I bought enough TP for the minimum of things I wanted, Shroud, WF, Ect, then waited for a point bundle special. Now I pick up things as they go on sale.

[KillEveryone]

Just buy the packs.

When money is tight you have your priorities.

You also don't have to worry about getting your sub renewed.

Life also happens. You may resub but something comes up and you don't get to use your sub that you paid for...I personally like to get my money's worth.

The packs and points go on sale. Best value is to just buy that way.

You don't have to buy everything because if there is some stuff you just don't like to do then you don't need that pack.

Really are not many perks of VIP that make it worth it. Elite open in the next update is nice but you can always roll a second account and have some openers. Farm up TP for it if you want to or just buy the smallest point pack or grab some on sale and get packs you want when on sale.

I have everything I want at the moment...haven't bought the last two releases but I want more high level content so I'm not going to encourage low level pack development.

I was VIP for a few months, glad I'm premium.

[~jradnut]

Wall o' Text, ...the only way to be sure...X.X

[Angelican]

I have made up my mind. I'm going to grab what I absolutely need from the store on payday and then just buy when things are on sale (including points). It makes so much more sense to just buy things individually and have them without the subscription than to pay every month and then not have them when you can't pay the monthly fee. I honestly don't see why anyone would continue paying monthly other than lack of knowledge, as was the case with me before now. But I will definetely share the knowledge I have gained.

[cdbd3rd]

.... I honestly don't see why anyone would continue paying monthly other than lack of knowledge, ....

Easy now. It's always good when one finds self-enlightenment, but don't get carried away judging others' decisions. That almost reads like the fervor of a newly recruited religious initiate who sees the light and goes forth to make sure everyone else sees their light, too.


Just poking fun a bit, but it does sound kinda condescending for the rest of us 'uninformed' sub-paying VIPs.

[Ashurr]

I know a guy that was F2P, bought all the packs and account options then went P2P. He decided that if he ever got tight in the wallet, he could drop sub and still have all the goodies.

Uhh..why would he do this? Yeah, the 500 TP a month is nice, and I'm all for supporting the game...but if ya already own all packs AND account options, why sub?

[nibel]

Only been getting TP since mod 9. So 12*500=6000

Old players got a TP bonus when the store opens. I know i got 3000 points, I think the older players got a higher bonus.

That, plus the 16* months of VIP since mod 9, gives enough TP to buy almost everything.

*we had 4 months that VIPs receives 1000 TP/month

[Ratnix]

I have made up my mind. I'm going to grab what I absolutely need from the store on payday and then just buy when things are on sale (including points). It makes so much more sense to just buy things individually and have them without the subscription than to pay every month and then not have them when you can't pay the monthly fee. I honestly don't see why anyone would continue paying monthly other than lack of knowledge, as was the case with me before now. But I will definetely share the knowledge I have gained.

I am paying monthly because I always do 3 months when I start playing a game. In the case of eveything being avaliable through the store, I would like try stuff out so that I know what I like instead of just buying everything, even the stuff I wont end up playing.
I prefer trying it myself I.stead of just buying what the powergamers say you should buy.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

4 years = 48 months; *500 free TP per month = 24000 TP = enough to buy every single adventure pack.

Hi and welcome to DDO. TPs haven't existed that long.

[Chai]

It could be worse. We could be sub only and you could not be able to play right now until you sub up again.

15 bucks a month is ~50 cents per day. One less can of soda today and you got it covered. Quit smoking and you got a DDO sub plus lots left over.