AA Speed Test - Volunteers needed

[Glenalth]

I need your help to compile a list of bow attack speeds at different BAB, feat selections, and with different gear setups. These tests will also probe a little bit into finding how many arrow shots are lost to latency.

It will only take a few minutes of your time and this info could benefit us all.

Not every AA is a Ranger, so I'm posting a link to this in the Elf forum.

Testing procedure...

Find an open area with no obstructions, a private instance is best to avoid outside influences.
Load up 100 arrows that do not have the returning property.

Reporting procedure...

Character Name: not required if you want to stay anonymous, but helps sort things out
Class/Race: in case there are any hidden modifiers here
BAB: your current BAB during the test
Weapon Used: longbow/shortbow/composite/Green Steel/named bow/etc
Gear: list any gear that may affect ranged attack speed
Feats/Enhancements: list any character based bonuses that affect ranged attack speed (ie Rapidshot or capstone for you rangers)
Spells: any buffs/debuffs that you have active (haste, madstone, divine power)
Time Recorded: use stopwatch to time how long it takes to empty out the 100 arrows. Time from the initial click to the out of ammo/reload dialog.
Number of animations: manually count the cycles of firing animation.
Latency: record your latency/loss at beginning and end of test
Notes: anything that might have affected your results, tides, phase of the moon, etc..


Multiple test cycles are encouraged and multiple gear setups are also wanted if you can spare the time to run extra cycles.

If you feel I'm missing something in the testing procedure or data collected, please let me know.

[Glenalth]

Reserved for reporting

[SiliconShadow]

I would probably say if you have xfire/fraps or another ingame cam record it if for a more accurate time, I am going to do a bench run on a sorcerer and then agian with the quiver of alacrity, I will test an elven ranger after I reTR back for you and I will do the videos per level.

[Glenalth]

Sounds excellent.

[SiliconShadow]

lv14 Sorcerer
bab 7
latency 110ms
packet loss 0.1% (times of 2.47 I had 0% loss)
arrows fired 500 (5 x 100 arrow tests)
2.48, 2.48, 2.47, 2.48, 2.47 (time in minutes.seconds)
= 0.6 Arrows per second

lv14 Sorcerer
bab 7
latency 110ms
packet loss 0.0%
arrows fired 500 (5 x 100 arrow tests)
Quiver of alacrity +10% ranged alacrity
2.36, 2.36, 2.36, 2.36, 2.36 (time in minutes.seconds)
= 0.64 Arrows per second

Actual increase of a quiver of alacrity for a base character = 7.14%

It will take me two weeks to start posting but I will edit this post and a following with my results as I start to gain them.

[SiliconShadow]

Reserved for findings.

[LupusVai]

Tested on sorrowdusk so no one else around
Elven Ranger level 20. Using Silver Bow. Latency about 110 to 120. No Haste.

Capstone: 94sec for 100 arrows = 1.064 APS
Capstone + Quiver: 92sec for 100 arrows = 1.087 APS
Capstone + Deepwood sniper set: 93sec for 100 arrows = 1.075APS
Capstone + Quiver + Deepwood Sniper Set: 87sec for 100 arrows = 1.149 APS

[Glenalth]

Thank you for your time.

Once I get a few more data points I'll start consolidating and charting the results.

[SiliconShadow]

Tested on sorrowdusk so no one else around
Elven Ranger level 20. Using Silver Bow. Latency about 110 to 120. No Haste.

Capstone: 94sec for 100 arrows = 1.064 APS
Capstone + Quiver: 92sec for 100 arrows = 1.087 APS
Capstone + Deepwood sniper set: 93sec for 100 arrows = 1.075APS
Capstone + Quiver + Deepwood Sniper Set: 87sec for 100 arrows = 1.149 APS

So from this we can see

With capstone:
Quiver = 2.1% increase
tod set (dws) = 1.1% increase
Combined quiver and tod set (dws) = 7.5%
(Numbers to 1dp)

I would like to see this with haste as well and all combinations again, can you provide this data please Lupus because it shows something unexpected, what perhaps is being seen is a speed breakpoint and that is why people think things don't stack or have lower than quoted values.

[Glenalth]

It is interesting.

[Glenalth]

Some numbers from a good connection, later tonight the same tests from awful connection.

Character Name: Isindolph
Class/Race: Ranger 14/Fighter 6 Warforged
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: N/A
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, +2 ATTK
Time Recorded: 1:47.28
Number of animations: 103
Latency: 110-115
Notes: N/A

Character Name: Isindolph
Class/Race: Ranger 14/Fighter 6 Warforged
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: Docent of Quickening
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, +2 ATTK
Time Recorded: 1:39.58
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 110-115
Notes: N/A

Character Name: Isindolph
Class/Race: Ranger 14/Fighter 6 Warforged
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: Docent of Quickening + Arcane Archer ToD Set
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, +2 ATTK
Time Recorded: 1:36.16
Number of animations: 102
Latency: 110-115
Notes: N/A

Character Name: Isindolph
Class/Race: Ranger 14/Fighter 6 Warforged
BAB: 20
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: Arcane Archer ToD Set
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, +2 ATTK
Time Recorded: 1:39.56
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 110-115
Notes: N/A

Character Name: Preston
Class/Race: Ranger 17 AA
BAB: 17
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: N/A
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, XP, +2 CHA, 3 Dragons, Dhakani
Time Recorded: 1:50.92
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 95-100
Notes: N/A

Character Name: Preston
Class/Race: Ranger 17 AA
BAB: 17
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with House D Arrows
Gear: Quiver of Alacrity
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Guild +1 STR, XP, +2 CHA, 3 Dragons, Dhakani
Time Recorded: 1:47.50
Number of animations: 103
Latency: 95-100
Notes: N/A

[Glenalth]

I still have a remarkably barren and lonely spreadsheet and not enough data to have more than one test for any particular situation.

A reminder that number of firing animations is also needed, not just arrow counting. Every arrow that gets eaten by latency could be throwing off the numbers 1% each time. I'm getting up to 10-15 lost shots per 100 on high latency connections, but the animation speed matches with what I "should" be getting based on previous testing on a good connection.

Tests from characters that are not Arcane Archers are also appreciated.

[Maxelcat]

Ill see what i can scare up this weekend for you.

[DustTheWind]

I recommend using the attack dummy on the air ships. They stay put and let you know if your shot was a hit or was lost by the server. However some times there is a bit of time lag between the time the shot was fired and when it registers so it can be hard to some times determine if a shot is lost still. I found it a great way to test crit rates as well.

I was testing my shots per sec a while ago and I remembered before my capstone it was about 0.98 arrows/sec and afterward it was maybe 1.1 arrows/sec which would be a multiplier of about 1.12 or an increase of about 12% which does seem short of the 25% stated in the capstone. I should re-run those again some time. no quiver or any other speed enhancers were used. I was pure ranger. Pretty nice computer but its a laptop. Cable connection is pretty good. Cant remember exactly how many arrows but was at least a set of 100 per test.

[Glenalth]

The dummy adds in some more factors such as arrows expended that don't make it to target. If you can count how many firing animations and how many hits+misses at the same time, that would be good information to have, but outside the scope of the test.

[Glenalth]

Still looking for more data.

[SiliconShadow]

Still levelling sorry need a lot of exp 14/20 so far and going.

[Requiro]

Still looking for more data.

My tests:

Class/Race: Elf Ranger 14 AA
BAB: 14
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Some Guild Spells
Time Recorded: 2:00:81.
Number of animations: 102
Latency: 119-123
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Elf Ranger 14 AA
BAB: 14
Weapon Used: Bow of the Element (Air) with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot
Spells: Some Guild Spells
Time Recorded: 1:59.82
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 123-126
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Drow Wizard 7 / Rogue 1
BAB: 3
Weapon Used: Silver Longbow (no proficient) with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: None
Spells: None
Time Recorded: 3:12.05
Number of animations: 103
Latency: 121-120
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Drow Wizard 7 / Rogue 1
BAB: 3
Weapon Used: Shortbow with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: None
Spells: Haste
Time Recorded: 2:38.52
Number of animations: 102
Latency: 120-121
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Drow Wizard 11
BAB: 5
Weapon Used: Giant’s Roar (no proficiency) with 100 House D Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: None
Spells: Lots of Guild spells
Time Recorded: 2:57.52
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 119-117
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Drow Wizard 11
BAB: 5
Weapon Used: Giant’s Roar (no proficiency) with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: None
Spells: Lots of Guild and Haste
Time Recorded: 2:28.99
Number of animations: 101
Latency: 118-120
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Drow Wizard 11
BAB: 5
Weapon Used: Composite Shortbow (no proficiency) with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: None
Spells: Lots of Guild and Haste, Heroism, Shield, Blur ect.
Time Recorded: 2:28.72
Number of animations: 100
Latency: 118-119
Notes: N/A

Class/Race: Human Fighter 4
BAB: 4
Weapon Used: +1 starter Shortbow with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot, Rapid reload, Quick Draw
Spells: None
Time Recorded: 2:39.91
Number of animations: 103
Latency: 120-121
Notes: This one is create just for this test.

Class/Race: Human Fighter 4
BAB: 4
Weapon Used: +1 starter Longbow with 100 Arrows
Gear: None
Feats/Enhancements: Rapid Shot, Rapid reload, Quick Draw
Spells: None
Time Recorded: 2:39.45
Number of animations: 104
Latency: 119-121
Notes: This one is create just for this test.

[Glenalth]

Thank you very much.

[frznvimes]

Class/Race: level 6 elf ranger aa
BAB: +6
Weapon Used: silver longbow, basic arrows
Gear: butt naked (no quiver)
Feats/Enhancements: rapid shot
Spells: unbuffed
Time Recorded: A: 2:24.0 B: 2:23.7 C: 2:22.7
Number of animations: A: 101 B: 100 C: 100
Latency: A: 103/106 B:107/103 C: 103/111

ran 3 times (a, b, and c). Animation matched up with the rate arrows disappeared from inventory except for the last dozen or so arrows of the first test. For the first test I had some arrows sitting around in my inventory that got loaded (but I didn't fire any), and for the next two I made sure to put them in unused quivers.