What monsters are considered evil outsider?

[Bolo_Grubb]

And does GEOB bypass their DR?

thanks

[hydra_ex]

This list is not inclusive, but contains most common types. To see if a creature is an evil outsider, examine it. The alignment of the monsters is given after its class.

Devils - LE:

• Bearded Devils/Barbazu
• Orthons
• Hellcats/Bezekiras
• Pit Fiends (Aeritrikos, Horoth, others)
• Horned Devils (Suulomades, others)
• Succubi
• Most stuff in the Vale, SubT - Central, and Shavarath - Devil

Demons - CE

• Hezrous
• Mariliths
• Flesh Renders
• Fire Reavers
• Ice Reavers
• Several Outsiders in the Demon Sands

Certain Xoriat Creatures - CE

• Tharaak Hounds
• Flesh Renders
• Fire Reavers
• Ice Reavers
• Any Xoriat, the plane of chaos, themed quest

*Note that beholders and mindflayers are not outsiders, they are aberrations.

Quori - LE (I think)

• Quori Stalkers (Spiders)
• [Elemental] Shadows (can't remember exact name, sorry)
• Dream Stealers (The Wraiths)
• Devour of Dreams (from the Dreaming Dark Final Quest)
• Any IQ or Dreaming Dark quest

*Note that the Dream Reavers are not outsiders, they are aberrations.

Misc - ?E

• Efreeti (but not Djinn)
• Rakshasas

Certain creatures, namely Teiflings, are technically not evil outsiders, they are native outsiders with evil alignments. Some effects (such as GEOB) work on them, yet others, such FE:Evil Outsider do not.


Additionally, GEOB does not bypass DR by itself. Only Good and/or Silver/Cold Iron/Crystal (depending on the outsider) bypasses DR.

[dopey69]

well said and nothing else to see here ...

[AyumiAmakusa]

In Amrath, YOU are the outsider and everything else are Native Outsiders.

[hydra_ex]

In Amrath, YOU are the outsider and everything else are Native Outsiders.

Technically, but for purposes of damage effects, the types still hold.

[Bolo_Grubb]

Thank you.

That is very helpful

[Angelus_dead]

Fiendish Creatures - CE or LE [list][*]Fiendish Troglodyte [Classes][*]Fiendish Trolls[*]Fiendish Spiders[*]Fiendish Scorpions[*]Fiendish Gnolls[*]Many places devils or demons are found. Their alignment corresponds to whichever true outsider is found with them.

Fiendish and Fiend-blood creatures are not Outsiders. They remain reptiles, giants, vermin, gnolls, and whatever else.

[hydra_ex]

Fiendish and Fiend-blood creatures are not Outsiders. They remain reptiles, giants, vermin, gnolls, and whatever else.

Yeah, you're right. I confused it with extraplanar. Thanks for pointing it out.

[honkuimushi]

And Succubi are Demons. The human female resembling Devils are Eyrines.

[Angelus_dead]

And Succubi are Demons. The human female resembling Devils are Eyrines.

Nope. That's the D&D monster, but in DDO a Succubus is a Devil.

[honkuimushi]

Nope. That's the D&D monster, but in DDO a Succubus is a Devil.

I did not know that. I don't think that's an Eberron thing, any idea why that was changed?

[Arkat]

And does GEOB bypass their DR?

No

[DANTEIL]

This list is not inclusive, but contains most common types. To see if a creature is an evil outsider, examine it. The alignment of the monsters is given after its class
[snip]

Great list! Now, a related question, for caster-types:

What creatures can potentially be dismissed/banished (assuming appropriate DC checks, etc.)?

[Angelus_dead]

I did not know that. I don't think that's an Eberron thing, any idea why that was changed?

Probably because the word "Succubus" is recognizable to the public in a way that "Eyrines" simply isn't. It's "iconic", you might say. So when populating the Devil-controlled Shavarath quests, they wanted to use the creature that was more prominent and popular.

Additional supporting reasons:
In real world human mythology, succubi are associated with devils.
In D&D 4.x, a Succubus is a devil.

[Angelus_dead]

What creatures can potentially be dismissed/banished (assuming appropriate DC checks, etc.)?

Non-native Outsiders, elementals, tieflings, fiendish creatures (even if from Eberron). Nearly all outsiders are non-native, with the exceptions of rhakshasa and monks.

In theory other creatures that recently came from another plane would be banishable, such as the Beholders in Invaders, but that doesn't work. A marut might also be banishable.

Banishment immunity is provided if you're a boss or on your native plane (or a section of it). Certain magic items also give banishment immunity. Also note that HD over 25 (which is easy for an elemental) gives immunity to weapon Banishment but not the spell.

[hydra_ex]

Non-native Outsiders, elementals, tieflings, fiendish creatures (even if from Eberron). Nearly all outsiders are non-native, with the exceptions of rhakshasa and monks.

In theory other creatures that recently came from another plane would be banishable, such as the Beholders in Invaders, but that doesn't work. A marut might also be banishable.

Banishment immunity is provided if you're a boss or on your native plane (or a section of it). Certain magic items also give banishment immunity. Also note that HD over 25 (which is easy for an elemental) gives immunity to weapon Banishment but not the spell.

I believe tieflings are also native, and thus cannot be banished.

[Arkat]

I believe tieflings are also native, and thus cannot be banished.

In D&D, they are indeed Native Outsiders. In DDO, no, I don't believe they are.