Favored Monk (U5 build)

[Kayem]

copying this over from other class discussions to maximize input.

ok so these builds are based around some changes listed http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=248658

namely:

Monk Ninja Spy 1
Prereqs: Level 6 Monk, Path of Inevitable Dominion, Dodge, Monk Jump II, Monk Tumble II, and any one of: Static Charge, Porous Soul, All-Consuming Flame or Winter's Touch
Benefit: You are trained as a stealthy killer. You are considered proficinent in shortswords and treat them as Ki weapons. You gain +2 Balance, Hide, Move Silently and gain 1d6 sneak attack as if you were a rogue. While sneaking, you move 10% faster and your passive ki generation when centred is increased by 1.
Special Ability: You can expend Ki to enter Shadow Form, becoming invisible and partially insubstantial.

and

Whirling Steel Strike
Prereqs: Weapon Focus : Slashing; Proficiency in Longswords, Monk Level 1
Benefit: You treat longswords as if they were monk weapons, remaining centered when you wield them.

I proceeded to mess around with the character builder.

Note that i don't have a lot of things set in stone just looking for some input cause this character concept intrigues me.

i came up with two builds and one switches the levels around to get the longsword feat asap.

first is straight up Elf 7mnk/13FvS getting monk levels first.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Elf Male
(7 Monk \ 13 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 1096 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 17
Will: 17

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    21
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         12                    14
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               14                    18
Charisma             12                    16

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    14
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         5                    28
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                1                     3
Heal                  2                     4
Hide                  3                     6
Intimidate            1                     3
Jump                  6                    10
Listen                2                     6
Move Silently         3                     6
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                  2                     8
Swim                  3                     5
Tumble                4                     7
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Monk Jump I
Enhancement: Monk Tumble I


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
Enhancement: Void Strike
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I


Level 4 (Monk)
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Monk Jump II
Enhancement: Monk Tumble II


Level 5 (Monk)
Enhancement: Static Charge


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Adept of Flame


Level 7 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Adept of Wind


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage II


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Attack II


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Adept of Rain


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity
Enhancement: Fists of Iron
Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: Eagle Claw Attack
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Favored Soul Concentration I

this build just went for the monk levels and got the longsword feat at level 6 then went sovereign host for longsword bonus'.

alternatively you could start with 2 FvS get the first level spell buffs and be able to get whirling steel strike on your first monk level as shown here

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Elf Female
(7 Monk \ 13 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 1056 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 17
Will: 17

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    21
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         12                    14
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               14                    18
Charisma             12                    16

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     4
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         5                    28
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                1                     3
Heal                  2                     4
Hide                  3                     4
Intimidate            1                     3
Jump                  3                    15
Listen                2                     6
Move Silently         3                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                  2                    11
Swim                  3                     5
Tumble                n/a                   7
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage I


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Monk Jump I
Enhancement: Monk Tumble I


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
Enhancement: Void Strike
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Monk Jump II
Enhancement: Monk Tumble II


Level 7 (Monk)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose II


Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Adept of Flame


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Adept of Rain


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Eagle Claw Attack
Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike
Enhancement: Adept of Rock


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage II


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Attack II


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Fists of Iron
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: Favored Soul Concentration I


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Enhancement: Winter's Touch


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV

the best option seeming in my opinion being this drow shortsword build.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Drow Female
(7 Monk \ 13 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 324
Spell Points: 1136 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 17
Will: 17

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    21
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         12                    14
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom               14                    18
Charisma             12                    16

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    14
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         5                    28
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                1                     3
Heal                  2                     4
Hide                  3                     4
Intimidate            1                     3
Jump                  5                    28
Listen                2                     6
Move Silently         3                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     2
Spot                  6                    16
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                4                     7
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Monk Jump I
Enhancement: Monk Tumble I


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Void Strike


Level 4 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Jump II
Enhancement: Monk Tumble II


Level 5 (Monk)
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Static Charge


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Adept of Wind


Level 7 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by Vulkoor
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Adept of Flame


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose II
Enhancement: Adept of Rock


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Fists of Iron
Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike
Enhancement: Adept of Rain


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Vulkoor's Avatar


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Eagle Claw Attack
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity
Enhancement: Porous Soul


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III


Level 19 (Favored Soul)


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Concentration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II

the ninja spy enhancement makes shortswords Ki weapons and vulkoor gives additional shortsword benefits.

this also frees up some feat slots allowing different feat choices.

the playstyle for all three of these is generally the same, buff up with divine buffs such as divine favor/power, bless, recitation. and then spam ki abilities like mad.

now for all three of these i kind of just generally picked up all stances and stuff since i'm not sure which would be more beneficial to this build.


critiques away!

[Lithic]

and this needed to be posted in 3 forums because...?

[Kayem]

and this needed to be posted in 3 forums because...?

not everybody checks all forums related?

[Lithic]

not everybody checks all forums related?

And this is a groundbreaking build that you felt needed feedback from every possible person on the forums, warranting spamming multiple forums, beacause...?

[Xyfiel]

not everybody checks all forums related?

Fyi, It is considered spam and against forum rules. Most people ignore spam. I love spam, it is o so tasty...

[Kayem]

And this is a groundbreaking build that you felt needed feedback from every possible person on the forums, warranting spamming multiple forums, beacause...?

mm well sorry thanks for the advice about what turbine considers spam i personally never considered posting a thread in multiple different spots where it has relevance once spam.

[Steveohio]

personally dont think your getting enough out of either the monk or fvs levels to be anything more than a self sufficient melee, with 0 group-ability, and mediocre dps at best. Blade barrier(i assume along with heal are your lvl 6 spells) is going to be half damage on everything.

edit: If you want to ninja spy with shortswords or longswords and self heal, go halfling and another class for the other 13 lvls. IMO
Im currently working on my own ninja spy build for the next update, as a dragonmarked halfling.

[Kayem]

personally dont think your getting enough out of either the monk or fvs levels to be anything more than a self sufficient melee, with 0 group-ability, and mediocre dps at best. Blade barrier(i assume along with heal are your lvl 6 spells) is going to be half damage on everything.

edit: If you want to ninja spy with shortswords or longswords and self heal, go halfling and another class for the other 13 lvls. IMO
Im currently working on my own ninja spy build for the next update, as a dragonmarked halfling.

i see where your coming from i probably should have posted what my intention for this build was.

this build is mostly for fun because i love the FvS class.

also the intention for 12 FvS is for the free weapon focus and weapon specialization feat along with the ability to take advantage of the divine buffs. while also getting the advantage of Ki strikes with an U5 monk being able to remain centered with shortswords or longswords. i don't expect it to do top dps but i do expect it to do decent dps since at level 9 my FvS was out damaging all the melee in tempest spine except on DR mobs (**** you lack of adamantine weapons! XD)

really the biggest things i took advantage of in this build was ki strikes, monk stances, FvS martial feats, elf weapon bonus', and divine buffs.

just thought i'd share it with people for them to critique and see if anyone thought it would be fun

EDIT: i wasn't too concerned about BB hitting for less damage as i thought of it as something in addition to melee capabilities.

EDIT2: i've also been thinking of dropping down to 8 FvS and grabbing only Divine Power from 4th level list and taking advantage of t3 stances and Touch of Death.