Nerf cleric BAB to save headaches in parties / raids ?

[Mentos3111]

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due to myself posting and not reading after a week has caused me to rethink my op going to clarify... =)

I am off base for calling you an idiot. I am sorry for insulting you just because i don't agree with you. Reason i posted is due to my clerics which only heal and other ingame players talking about same deal. If you are joining raid as a battle cleric let the party know in advance so the actual cleric can leave before it starts. I think they just should change the class desription to not lead players in the wrong direction. Hopefully there will be druids at some point so clerics can actually melee. Sorry again iwas off base for calling you an idiot. and whm on ffxi isn't main healer at 44 when rdm gets refresh and takes over. whm can actually melee in ffxi. Have a good one.

[rest]

lol

[Kintro]

You seem to be making the common mistake of confusing the term "Battle Cleric" with "Bad Cleric". A good cleric, even a combat oriented one, knows when to put the sword down and throw heals.

[Fenrisulven6]

lol

no

[Fenrisulven6]

You seem to be making the common mistake of confusing the term "Battle Cleric" with "Bad Cleric". A good cleric, even a combat oriented one, knows when to put the sword down and throw heals.

I think he's teasing us.

[Comfortably]

I lost brain cells reading that -_- my two clerics are in pain.

[Hobgoblin]

fine i wont swing a sword anymore i will just cast maxed empowered extended bbs, cometfalls, searing lights and greater commands

[Kintro]

no offense kintro but you are an idiot. secoundly, stating there is a good battle cleric proves my first statement.

Touche. You've beaten me with your flawless logic.

[Fenrisulven6]

Yah. Bottom line, my pure healing Cleric loves to get into melee every now and then [the few times she can manage]. And she likes to hit stuff.
No way are you lowering her BAB because you think battleclerics are underperforming at endgame.

This isn't the answer to the problem you have. Look elsewhere.

coughWarForgedcough

[Junts]

Yah. Bottom line, my pure healing Cleric loves to get into melee every now and then [the few times she can manage]. And she likes to hit stuff.
No way are you lowering her BAB because you think battleclerics are undererforming at endgame.

This isn't the answer to the problem you have. Look elsewhere.

coughWarForgedcough

only bad ones underperform .. b ut seriously

my 28pt dwarf cleric with 14 base str, no str tome, melees the fiend fine and rather helpfully and has no particular issues with dying in there.

[Comfortably]

no offense kintro but you are an idiot. secoundly, stating there is a good battle cleric proves my first statement.

heh

No, you sir, are the real idiot.

[Zuldar]

The one main rule of character creation in dnd is if you can build it, you can do it. Anything like this that goes against pnp and harms diversity is a poor choice to make.

Instead of trying to pigeon-hole people into particular builds they should add more options to increase our choices. Otherwise we might as well be playing WoW.

[Fenrisulven6]

No, I'm the idiot. So There! LOL everyone stop. Why are you even taking this seriously?

[Hobgoblin]

my problem with bc's is twofold.

1.) too many of them seem to think that one level of fighter turns them into a meele. (they dont use divine power)
2.) why would you beat on a mob for a minute when you can just destruct them and move on?

[Zuldar]

my problem with bc's is twofold.

2.) why would you beat on a mob for a minute when you can just destruct them and move on?

Because they're red named.

[Comfortably]

No, I'm the idiot. So There! LOL everyone stop. Why are you even taking this seriously?

Well, to try and tell me how to play my clerics is one thing but then to call someone who disagrees an idiot? Just asking for a flame war

[Hobgoblin]

Because they're red named.

touche, sir.

for red names you just run them through aformentioned bladebarriers

[Kintro]

only bad ones underperform .. b ut seriously

my 28pt dwarf cleric with 14 base str, no str tome, melees the fiend fine and rather helpfully and has no particular issues with dying in there.

Same for my elven cleric. Then he heals between rounds so the primary cleric has enough sp for a second.

[Comfortably]

Flame On!

[Hobgoblin]

Flame On!

ok mr. torch