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    Red face Aquiring Wealth - How?

    I have seen several posts lately commenting on how easy it is to aquire gold/plat in the game. I for one would love to know HOW? I have been a casual player for about a year. My highest level character on Khyber is 12th. I have recently started playing exclusively on Thelanis (and enjoying it), and my highest character there is 5th (almost 6th). At no time in since I have been playing have I been able to have more than 25k plat. I don't spend wildly on the auction house. I sell items to brokers vs general vendors for the extra gold. My gear is almost always several levels below my character. I have tried selling some items on the AH and have never been able to sell something at a very high price, like I see other items listed for.

    Does this only happen at maxed levels running raids/high level content? I am not complaining at all, I just don't see how this can be done at low to mid levels or for someone that does not play almost every night running raids. I feel like a pauper

    Please share your insight and tips, I am eager to learn from the wise and experienced of you!

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    Additonally, I have never seen a tome drop. I have never seen a vorpal, or other uber weapon drop. Heck, I still have never seen a colapsed portable hole drop. So, I have not been able to sell anything like that, nevermind get to use it.
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    for a casual player 25k plat at lvl 12 seems about right. Most people acquire lots of plat from loot runs. If you just want to try new quests, without focusing on loot runs, you're wealth will come more slowly, unless you get lucky and pull something uber to sell on the AH. Your chances of getting something uber to sell on the AH increase greatly the more you do raids/loot runs. Typically raiding and loot runs start happening a lot more after you've passed lvl10.

    currently the most popular loot runs are in the gianthold, and the vale, and the best loot raid for a lvl 12 is the reaver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolvarg View Post
    I have seen several posts lately commenting on how easy it is to aquire gold/plat in the game. I for one would love to know HOW? I have been a casual player for about a year. My highest level character on Khyber is 12th.
    Ok, you see: Your highest level character is 12th.

    Getting to 16th level is EASY. Since you haven't done that yet, it's understandable you don't have much plat yet, and haven't seen a good item drop yet.

    I mean, seriously. There are people who create a character Friday night and are 12th level by Sunday morning.

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    One of my personal techniques is to 'farm' as I level.
    A few of the things I go for on the way up:

    Muckbane
    Ring of Feathers
    Strings of Prayer Beads (15 stack) (collectible)
    Vials of Pure Water (5 stack) (collectible)
    Lightning-Split Soarwood (collectible)
    Silver Flame Hymnals (6 stack) (collectible)
    Tomes: Prophecies of Khyber (2 stack) (collectible)
    Luminescent Dusts (3 stack) (collectible)
    Fragrant Drowshood mushrooms (9 stack) (collectible)
    Sparkling Dusts (6) (collectible)
    Deadly Feverblanch mushrooms (12 stack) (collectible)
    Lightning-Split Soarwoods (4 stack) (collectible)
    Funerary Tokens (22 stack) (collectible)
    Chaosgardes
    Planar Girdes
    Dragon Scales

    Putthing these on the AH at reasonable buyouts will assure that your characters aren't 'running on empty', along with other 'smart trader' techniques (one you already do broker>vendor)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolvarg View Post
    I have seen several posts lately commenting on how easy it is to aquire gold/plat in the game. I for one would love to know HOW? I have been a casual player for about a year. My highest level character on Khyber is 12th. I have recently started playing exclusively on Thelanis (and enjoying it), and my highest character there is 5th (almost 6th). At no time in since I have been playing have I been able to have more than 25k plat. I don't spend wildly on the auction house. I sell items to brokers vs general vendors for the extra gold. My gear is almost always several levels below my character. I have tried selling some items on the AH and have never been able to sell something at a very high price, like I see other items listed for.

    Does this only happen at maxed levels running raids/high level content? I am not complaining at all, I just don't see how this can be done at low to mid levels or for someone that does not play almost every night running raids. I feel like a pauper

    Please share your insight and tips, I am eager to learn from the wise and experienced of you!

    Regards,

    Kol
    the hard way.....

    once you get to 12th you should start doing all the giant hold quests a lot for loot and cash. It starts dropping good. You should not do elite POP or the other two big ones until you are 13 (this way you do not get nerfed on the chests)

    Then run around the vale a bit and the orchard...get rich, become loot ho


    the easy way....

    Join a guild that is dying. Be very very nice and helpful. Do anything they ask and be a good friend. When some of them leave the game for good, they will leave you their stuff.....FTW!
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    I didn't start acquiring plat until my first toon hit level 16. I've been playing for about since months and have roughly half a million plat across all my toons (not a fortune, but it keeps me going). Running quests that drop high-level weapons is the way to go. A 14th level weapon sell to a vendor for roughly 1,250 plat without having any haggle modifier. More if you sell to the broker and more if you have haggle and skill/cha buffs. The best way to get cash is to run high level quests and sell the vendor trash to brokers and sell the valuable items on the AH (not such a good idea right now since the AH is fairly stagnant, but it is getting better). You can also farm certain quests for items that are in high demand (Gianthold Tor for dragon scales, The Shroud for large ingredients, The Orchard for taps, and such) and sell them either through the forums marketplace for your server or the AH.

    Like I said, I am not wealthy and I am sure people know better ways to get quick cash, but this is a surefire method for steady income of plat. For the moment, focus on getting your highest-level toon to level 16 and then keep running him until you're satisfied with your level of cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post
    Ok, you see: Your highest level character is 12th.

    Getting to 16th level is EASY. Since you haven't done that yet, it's understandable you don't have much plat yet, and haven't seen a good item drop yet.

    I mean, seriously. There are people who create a character Friday night and are 12th level by Sunday morning.
    That is your answer to the OP's question of HOW to acquire funds. You decide to rag on the OP for only being lvl 12. Angelus_dead, yet another usless degrading post.

    /shakeshead

    As for the OP: If you are looking for a way to acquire more stormreach coin, my suggestion is to finish leveling one of your characters. Once that character is lvl 16, and you have solid equipment that is quite static to that toon, go out on occasion and group with players looking to "LOOT" certain quests.

    As for gaining pp while leveling a character, even those players out there that have 5 capped toons will tell you that leveling up any class is costly. The only benifit that those other players have is that thier high level toons (lvl 16/capped) are able to "loot" quests to keep the characters they are leveling up fixed up proper with gear. Starting out is always much more difficult. Goodluck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunker View Post
    That is your answer to the OP's question of HOW to acquire funds. You decide to rag on the OP for only being lvl 12. Angelus_dead, yet another usless degrading post.

    /shakeshead
    AHEM.... How is my ignore feature going to work properly if you people keep quoting him?


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    Hagglebot for the win!

    Human, straight-class bard, focusing on things that will boost your haggle (charisma, skill enhancements, Skill Focus Haggle feat etc). Make sure to pick up Human Skill Boost. My hagglebot, Jonthom, is running with a 70 Haggle, and will top-out at 75, self buffed. With an inspire competence from another bard and the right House D collectibles Alchemical boost pots, I could logisticly hit 81. All of my loot over a ML of 8 gets mailed over to my bard for sale. A stack of 100 Heal scrolls is about 12,600 plat, for example, when I think a 0 haggle character would pay around 16,000 or so plat for the same stack of scrolls. It's a slow, bit expensive way to go about it, as you need to level the toon up and bards can be a bit expensive to level and run, but they're a hell of a lot of fun to play, and you'll almost never lack for a group, especially in the high-end raids (unthinkable nowadays to run Shroud, VoD or Hound without a Bard).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunker View Post
    That is your answer to the OP's question of HOW to acquire funds. You decide to rag on the OP for only being lvl 12. Angelus_dead, yet another usless degrading post.

    /shakeshead

    As for the OP: If you are looking for a way to acquire more stormreach coin, my suggestion is to finish leveling one of your characters. Once that character is lvl 16, and you have solid equipment that is quite static to that toon, go out on occasion and group with players looking to "LOOT" certain quests.

    As for gaining pp while leveling a character, even those players out there that have 5 capped toons will tell you that leveling up any class is costly. The only benifit that those other players have is that thier high level toons (lvl 16/capped) are able to "loot" quests to keep the characters they are leveling up fixed up proper with gear. Starting out is always much more difficult. Goodluck to you.
    erm no, hes telling him go level up quickly so that he can join in on all the megabucks runs

    degrading? could be

    useless? absolutely not

    its just a different way of putting it across
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    There are lots of things that become "hot" items when they first come out. The value is very high to begin with. Loot those items and sell at a premium when everyone wants them. For example when gianthold came out, the prices on the auction house for one scale was almost 3x what they are now. I loot ran them and sold them for that 3x price(on the forums). After about 6-8 weeks they came down significantly and I bought the scales I sold for 1/3 the cost (on the forums not the auction house). When orchard came out, tapestries were the same way, as well as shield and tome pieces. Named items work this way as well. Hot comodities are a sure fire way to get rich quick.
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    Put up a LFM for loot run with any of the following even if you don’t know the run that well most likely some one join that will know the run or put need a guide.
    Loot runs (that I can remember):
    Giant Caves in Threnal
    Orchard of the Macabre
    Vale of Twilight
    Prison of the Planes
    Reaver Raid (Raid, loot run with a timer)
    Shroud pt1 (Raid)

    Don’t try to sell items on the AH at the extreme prices you see on the AH. As those that can afford it most likely already have it, there are some exceptions like large scales and WoP weapons. And those that can't afford it can't buy it. Also place items with a buyout that you are comfortable with and is price high enough for the must have items.

    Make an Haggle bot/mule with haggle related feats and skills so you can mail items to sell to the broker and get more plat and buy items for less plat. Doesn't even have to bot/mule can even be a well rounded alt that you would enjoying playing with.

    Fill your back pack when questing, empty out the chests and for the loot left behind, better to leave a quest with a back pack full of sellable junk then a empty backpack which you can not make plat from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwolf1071 View Post
    Hagglebot for the win!

    Human, straight-class bard, focusing on things that will boost your haggle (charisma, skill enhancements, Skill Focus Haggle feat etc). Make sure to pick up Human Skill Boost. My hagglebot, Jonthom, is running with a 70 Haggle, and will top-out at 75, self buffed. With an inspire competence from another bard and the right House D collectibles Alchemical boost pots, I could logisticly hit 81. All of my loot over a ML of 8 gets mailed over to my bard for sale. A stack of 100 Heal scrolls is about 12,600 plat, for example, when I think a 0 haggle character would pay around 16,000 or so plat for the same stack of scrolls. It's a slow, bit expensive way to go about it, as you need to level the toon up and bards can be a bit expensive to level and run, but they're a hell of a lot of fun to play, and you'll almost never lack for a group, especially in the high-end raids (unthinkable nowadays to run Shroud, VoD or Hound without a Bard).
    theoretically max haggle can reach 82. but requires the tome in abbot
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    whatever you do, don't deal with +3 tomes in raids unless you want to be chasing the guy 1 year after, looking for the things you wanted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post
    I mean, seriously. There are people who create a character Friday night and are 12th level by Sunday morning.
    That's so sad, not capped in 1 1/2 days of play. How do they look at themselves in the mirror Monday morning?

    OPishly, I know what I do. I grab every piece of loot from every crate, every barrel, and I grab every collectible. I'm amazed how fast it builds up. Things like rapiers of lesser reptile bane go for fairly decent lowbie cash on the AH (I still don't like the AH, but if it's there, I'll use it).

    I'm also amazed how many folks run right by silver (let alone copper) in a lowbie quest. I guess they're just relying on their capped sugar mommies and daddies to twink loot and plat to them.

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    Take a look at what is on the AH (auction house), is it all uber (super) stuff - no. So look at what is on the AH and get an idea of the prices that stuff is going for, when you pick something up that's almost the same in a quest, like even a +3 Flaming Greataxe, there on the AH, there not sold for much but they are there, and than think about what price you would be willing to pay if you were the ML (Minimum Level) of the item, than post it for a fair but some what high amount, and see if it sells, if not, drop the price a little bit and try again, also don't buy anything on the AH for awhile, use it only to sell stuff, in about 2 weeks time you well have more money than you have right now, if things go well for you, you well be sitting pretty good, maybe 100K plat or so. If you only play Sat. and Sun. it might take a bit longer, but you well be doing pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EightyFour View Post
    Take a look at what is on the AH (auction house), is it all uber (super) stuff - no. So look at what is on the AH and get an idea of the prices that stuff is going for, when you pick something up that's almost the same in a quest, like even a +3 Flaming Greataxe, there on the AH, there not sold for much but they are there, and than think about what price you would be willing to pay if you were the ML (Minimum Level) of the item, than post it for a fair but some what high amount, and see if it sells, if not, drop the price a little bit and try again, also don't buy anything on the AH for awhile, use it only to sell stuff, in about 2 weeks time you well have more money than you have right now, if things go well for you, you well be sitting pretty good, maybe 100K plat or so. If you only play Sat. and Sun. it might take a bit longer, but you well be doing pretty well.

    This is definitely the best way to get plat at low to medium levels (this, and selling every Mana Potion you loot at starting bid 2.5x its price, buyout 3x).

    Once you get to 16th level, plat comes in thick and fast - every run of the Shroud takes 45-60 minutes and awards 12 level 17 chests, plus extremely valuable collectibles in the form of Large Ingredients (you may choose to keep these, if not they sell for a fortune).
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    Thanks for all the input. At least now I know my situation is normal. I appreciate the advise.

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    Indeed, thats about the max amount of cash on hand you would have if you have a lower level character.

    I've only got a single 16th character myself, and don't even play him much. I was in your boat for a good deal of the game, at least I consider myself a 'casual player'. For a casual player getting to level cap can take awhile, when you only quest enough to gain a level once a week (or two depending on speed of play) it tends to take awhile. Once you get there though, you will come to a point where all the equipment you have is as good as you can expect to be able to buy off the AH or pull from chests. When you reach a point where 98% of the loot you pull from chests or end rewards get sold to the vendors or ect, you'l begin gathering up cash. If you don't use it to fund lower level alts (or are a cleric and then spend insane amounts of money possibly) you'll start making more then you usually spend on quests. Run the Shroud 4-5 times and you'l have 25k. The reaver is also a very nice thing. If you can get yourself Reaver ready, it is easy enough to be more or less a 'get x amount of loot every 3 days or so'.

    Nothing abnormal about your amount of money for a casual player.
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