Monetary reward or possibly items given for deleting high lvl chars.

[wolfy42]

Many of us are being forced to delete high lvl characters to open up slots for monk.

I personally believed that 1 extra character slot was being held back for release with monks...and planned on using that slot.

Not happening though.

Therefore some form of reward would be nice for deleting your previous characters (possibly requiring a quest). You could call it a reincarnation reward or something.

Maybe reincarnation would reset you back to lvl 1, let you choose your race and class again etc but have the following effects:

28 point builds can be re-rolled as 32 point if you now have the favor available.
All tomes used on the previous character carry over to the new reincarnated character.
Any bound items owned by the previous character carry over to the new character.

This could make the process of deleting characters not quite as painful and actually useful in some way.

In addition reincarnation might even be used to give a slight boost to the character above the ones already listed....as an incentive for starting over.

Perhaps the boost could be in the form of a fixed experience bonus for all quests = the level of the character you deleted (so a 16 lvl character would have a fixed 16% increase to experience from all quests).

Just an idea to make this process a bit less painfull. I have only deleted 1 character so far (which was all I was planning on deleting as I expected to have an extra slot). I had to delete my war bard

I have no clue what I will delete next, but it would be nice if some way to make it less painful was added.

[wemery73]

/signed

i wanted to make a monk

[Aranticus]

Many of us are being forced to delete high lvl characters to open up slots for monk.

no one forced you. you have the option of deleting or not deleting

I personally believed that 1 extra character slot was being held back for release with monks...and planned on using that slot.

Not happening though.

nothing concrete was said

Therefore some form of reward would be nice for deleting your previous characters (possibly requiring a quest). You could call it a reincarnation reward or something.

Maybe reincarnation would reset you back to lvl 1, let you choose your race and class again etc but have the following effects:

28 point builds can be re-rolled as 32 point if you now have the favor available.
All tomes used on the previous character carry over to the new reincarnated character.
Any bound items owned by the previous character carry over to the new character.

This could make the process of deleting characters not quite as painful and actually useful in some way.

i like this idea

In addition reincarnation might even be used to give a slight boost to the character above the ones already listed....as an incentive for starting over.

Perhaps the boost could be in the form of a fixed experience bonus for all quests = the level of the character you deleted (so a 16 lvl character would have a fixed 16% increase to experience from all quests).

Just an idea to make this process a bit less painfull. I have only deleted 1 character so far (which was all I was planning on deleting as I expected to have an extra slot). I had to delete my war bard

I have no clue what I will delete next, but it would be nice if some way to make it less painful was added.

i like this too. just so long what we are given is material i'm all for it

[Theboz]

if you had planned ahead, instead of play a guessing game you would have save a spot, and would not had to delete any toons


/Not signed

[Angelus_dead]

if you had planned ahead, instead of play a guessing game you would have save a spot, and would not had to delete any toons

You mean, he should've planned ahead that Turbine would be absolutely stupid when releasing monks in module 7?

Well excuse us for having a shred of optimism.

[Bexo]

Not signed,

buy a second account like i did ages ago.

[Gluegun]

Nothing was promised.
Nothing was given.

Monetary compensation??? Still ROFL with tears in my eyes about that one.
You want tomes, pp, items and this and that and a little more of everything...
Please...ROFL... make him stop ... ROFL .... oh the pain ... ROFL ... try for a deep breath ... ROFL

Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency. Life isn't fair .. either RL or MMO alt lives...

People wishing for stuff on forum doesn't mean the DEV are going to give it. If it isn't written by a real DEV (and sometimes not even then) ... your SOL

Off to find the Easter Bunny cause sooo mnay people say he's real....

[wolfy42]

Wow.

I can't believe how antagonistic people are lately.

What is wrong with the reincarnation idea? How would that detract from the enjoyment of the game?

Did I start screaming "Give me another slot!!! WaaaaaaH!!?"

Nope I thought of a way to make deleting characters less painful for everyone not just now, but in the future as well.

It would also possibly give people incentive to re-roll characters once maxed and help keep people playing DDO longer.

And dev's do read these posts, we get replies from them all the time. Suggesting ideas is the only way we can help contribute to DDO's future.

If you don't like it fine, but I don't think you even read what I suggested.

I didn't say "Give us tomes for deleting our characters".

I said "Allowed tomes used on a character to carry over when you reincarnate".

What is so wrong about that?

I didn't say "Give us items for making us delete characters"

I said "Allow bound items to carry over to the reincarnated character".

Again...all it does is allow you to almost continue playing your character after you max him or her out. It allows you to re-roll characters without ditching everything you have gained while playing them.

Personally I think it would add alot to the game.

[Aesop]

I personally am hugely disappointed in not having a spare slot given. We've been saying for the longest time that when a new race or class is added that they need to add another slot. This is kinda a no brainer honestly. The fact that they didn't plan ahead for it is a really a little sad to me.

That said I did plan ahead and had a character pre set for for a Monk release... since Head Start. Unfortunately due to the implementation I may need to reroll... which is slightly annoying but I'll get over it.

Also just to play Devils Advocate I will point out the only Deve response to this I've seen thus far

We know there's a lot of demand for more character slots! We're still in the early stages of planning for additional slots; more slots will be available at some point in the future, but we we're not able yet to talk about how or when they'll be rolled out.

I'm still a bit upset... no I'm a bit ****ed that this is still in the early stage of planning as we've had several multi page threads on this going back as far as Mod 3 and I don't understand the difficulty here. I deleted all extraneous characters during the merge so that I didn't exceed the max and I really really do not think that having to regrind out the favor on a second account is something I want to do. I don't do big guilds because there are too many big egos there so I don't have a ready supply of people helping me to do the whole Favor Grind thing and I don't really want the extra expense nor the extra time spent to do such.

I like all my characters ... they have a personality of their own that makes them unique and interesting. As such I don't like deleting them if I have a choice unless I'm rebuilding them. With litteraly thousands of Builds possible choosing just a few and sticking with them has always chaffed especially when there are so many things that get added to the game.

Turbine we love the game, I think you know that we do ... but some of us want to actually play the game and not grind forever so hurry up and open more slots. Please. And while you're at it add an option to buy more slots. I don't want to grind for more favor if I can avoid it... that just bores me

Aesop


edit: I just want to add a thank you to Tolero for the Dev Response on this. It is an important issue and I believe that a lot of upset could have been avoided had the Devs simply stated that they hit a snag in releasing extra slots due to some <insert technical term here> that made proper implementation difficult but not to worry more slots will be forthcoming as soon as <inser technical term here> is overcome

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I'm still a bit upset... no I'm a bit ****ed that this is still in the early stage of planning as we've had several multi page threads on this going back as far as Mod 3 and I don't understand the difficulty here. I deleted all extraneous characters during the merge so that I didn't exceed the max and I really really do not think that having to regrind out the favor on a second account is something I want to do. I don't do big guilds because there are too many big egos there so I don't have a ready supply of people helping me to do the whole Favor Grind thing and I don't really want the extra expense nor the extra time spent to do such.

I like all my characters ... they have a personality of their own that makes them unique and interesting. As such I don't like deleting them if I have a choice unless I'm rebuilding them. With litteraly thousands of Builds possible choosing just a few and sticking with them has always chaffed especially when there are so many things that get added to the game.

Turbine we love the game, I think you know that we do ... but some of us want to actually play the game and not grind forever so hurry up and open more slots. Please. And while you're at it add an option to buy more slots. I don't want to grind for more favor if I can avoid it... that just bores me

Well stated, I agree

edit: I just want to add a thank you to Tolero for the Dev Response on this. It is an important issue and I believe that a lot of upset could have been avoided had the Devs simply stated that they hit a snag in releasing extra slots due to some <insert technical term here> that made proper implementation difficult but not to worry more slots will be forthcoming as soon as <inser technical term here> is overcome

/looks around

Huh? Where did she comment on this, I don't see it above or in dev tacker

[Thrudh]

It was an extremely stupid move on Turbine's part not to give us an extra character slot...

It was just as stupid not to respond to the DOZENS of threads asking about it.

[Bexo]

If you cant be bothered buying a second account then you dont love the game as much as I did. SHAME on you people.

[arcticwolf666]

You mean, he should've planned ahead that Turbine would be absolutely stupid when releasing monks in module 7?

Well excuse us for having a shred of optimism.

Except for the fact that no extra slots was confirmed a long time ago. Everyone else knew no other slots were going to open. So yes, planning should have been there, and no reward option for not paying attention.

/Not Signed

[Angelus_dead]

Except for the fact that no extra slots was confirmed a long time ago. Everyone else knew no other slots were going to open.

That is not true.

Not only were the lack of extra slots not confirmed 18 months ago when it mattered, they also weren't confirmed 2 weeks ago.

[arcticwolf666]

That is not true.

Not only were the lack of extra slots not confirmed 18 months ago when it mattered, they also weren't confirmed 2 weeks ago.

It was when Turbine never replied to all the requests, and no mention at all in the release notes. The notes have been out for some time. I deleted a character as well, but it was only a test character. Besides, I am not to fond of monks. I guess I just have to get used to it lol

[Razvan]

Many of us are being forced to delete high lvl characters to open up slots for monk.

I personally believed that 1 extra character slot was being held back for release with monks...and planned on using that slot.

Not happening though.

Therefore some form of reward would be nice for deleting your previous characters (possibly requiring a quest). You could call it a reincarnation reward or something.

Maybe reincarnation would reset you back to lvl 1, let you choose your race and class again etc but have the following effects:

28 point builds can be re-rolled as 32 point if you now have the favor available.
All tomes used on the previous character carry over to the new reincarnated character.
Any bound items owned by the previous character carry over to the new character.

This could make the process of deleting characters not quite as painful and actually useful in some way.

In addition reincarnation might even be used to give a slight boost to the character above the ones already listed....as an incentive for starting over.

Perhaps the boost could be in the form of a fixed experience bonus for all quests = the level of the character you deleted (so a 16 lvl character would have a fixed 16% increase to experience from all quests).

Just an idea to make this process a bit less painfull. I have only deleted 1 character so far (which was all I was planning on deleting as I expected to have an extra slot). I had to delete my war bard

I have no clue what I will delete next, but it would be nice if some way to make it less painful was added.

BHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....


funny, you just made my day!

[JacknCoke]

Many of us are being forced to delete high lvl characters

No one is holding a gun to your head, therefore you are not FORCED to do anything.
But then again its an attitude like the above that makes people cry out they "worked hard" for so n so and deserve so n so. Instead of the "played hard".

[ThrasherGT]

Ya know, this sooooooooo reminds Me of My pen 'n paper days. We had a good group of 6-8 peeps that showed up religiously for our weekly game (I'd still be playing w/ them if I didn't move out of state) and I remember how they would react when one of their characters died...........Oh, the whining, the throwing of dice, the storming out of the room, the arguing. LOL! I used to tell them: "Man! It's just a piece of paper! Shut up and roll Your next guy already!

Since there is No way to "die" in DDO, this equates to deleting and rerolling a character. So I'll say it again: Quit yer *****ing and just delete a character if You want a Monk! Or don't! It's not like You can't get good/ Uber gear again..........SHEESH!

[TommyBoy]

What is wrong with the reincarnation idea?

Well seeing as the devs say they cant add a slot and have to research it. And the adding of a slot is mostlikely a simple code line change and what your asking is a lot more work. I don't know what is wrong with it?


on a side note I'de lay bets that its sooner then later on the extra slot.

[arrrcher]

sigh. I shouldnt bother, but sometimes something needs to be said. mainly its others' vitriol here that's motivating me. sadly, it seems to be occuring with greater frequency.

given: we are all customers; no customer's opinion about a product or service is more valid (or less) than another's. like it or not, we're all equals.

so my issue: saying someone's ridiculous for stating their dissatisfaction regarding a product or service offered by a company is absurd. logically, that's tantamount to saying no one has a right to complain about anything a company does. fine if you feel you have your due for your paid fee regarding a particular issue, but no one has the right to whine about or belittle other customers demanding their due (as they percieve it). this is especially true if the complaint is made in a contructive, polite manner, as in the case of the op (imo).

Turbine doesn't need any apologists.

DDO's admin could do themselves a favor and provide a rationale for their decision (maybe they have I dont know); unless they're worried the rationale would be offensive to the customer base... at this point we can only guess. but that's not really the point of this post.

at this point, however, I might as well weigh in on the issue (for all the effect it will have): I dont believe we're getting the extra slot OR any compensation otherwise, regardless of how much we protest. so we all have a choice: accept it, protest more and hold out hope for some redress, or quit paying your fee.

flame on I guess. sigh.