Is there hope for WarForged Barbs?

[avatar28]

Hey guys.

Well I have a multiclass Barb, I love playing him.. and i'm almost at 1750 favor, so when I build 32 point toon, I want him to be PURE Barb. No 2 splashes of fighter, just 16 all the way. I was in a PUG group and 2 guys said they have 4 or 5 capped toons (including barbs). I told them of my plans to build a pure WF barb ( 2WF ). They laughed and said I was going to regret making a WF cause by the time I get around to running high end quests, NOBODY was going to invite me into quests like the shroud. They said WF were too much of a mana sponge, and clerics or sorcerers couldn't be bothered keeping them up. I thought about a couple of enhancements in healer's friend, but mostly I want all of the rage enhancements. According to them, Dwarf was the way to go. And they swore up and down that HP was where it's at. DR means nothing, and DPS means nothing when the pit fiend hits you with a delayed fireblast for 350+ points of damge, or melees you with 100+ per hit. They said toughness, dwarven toughness, and barb toughness to beef HP high as possible ( or at least above 450 unbuffed ) They said 150 extra HP means the difference between living and dieing, and even 30 DR means nothing.

I really love WF, but I don't want to waste all that time building him, if i'm going to be soloing everything. I like being in parties, and I don't want people to reject me cause i'm too much maintaince.


I would love for capped WF barbs to defend these statements, and let me know if there is hope for WF end game.

[Averroes]

Those puggers are clearly noobs.

Barbs don't have enough action points left over after taking the useful enhancements to waste any on garbage like toughness. Maybe 1 rank in one of the lines, but certainly not multiple ranks in multiple lines.

Not being a noob means far more than any number of hitpoints, anyway. Carrying a stack of fire pro pots means you won't ever eat a 350-pt fireball (although, even if you do, a barb with no con item and 16 con will have more than 350 hitpoints...), and having at least one cleric that isn't afk or asleep (or, like, watching your own health and backing out) means those extra 150 hitpoints don't really matter either.


And, uh, DR and DPS > everything else when you're a barb.

[Cowdenicus]

You want to be a two weapon fighting pure barbarian? Go human. The same 2 points you invest as a WF for that healers friend can be used as a human the same way, except you dont have the WF penalty. Your to be healed is 110%.

Humans are the only race that can add a point of strength through enhancements.

Humans start off with no bad stats in Dex or Con. A huge plus to a two weapon fighting Barbarian.

Humans get a bonus feat, and as we know Barbarians are feat starved.

My opinion, but I love my TWF HUMAN Barbarian.

[Illuminati]

I've been looking at them a bit again since I deleted Illuminum. I even scored a Docent of Defiance and some other stuff off the auction pretty cheap.

The problem I see , and I see it often, is the healing animus. The one thing I could recommend is to partner with a caster and it would probably be an awesome combo and you would get a ton of groups. Unfortunately, but the time you take healers friend III, etc. you watered yourself down too much and lose what you are.

Have a caster duo with you though, and its a different story. I have seen guys pass our Reconstruction scrolls, etc. but it slows the group down and there is some resistance. I would recommend just off healing as much as possible and putting something in your bio regarding what your heal % is at, etc.

Good luck

[TommyBoy]

Dude you want a WF barb role a WF barb. To hell with everyone else. WF get a con line, nat dr, and nat fort. What good are HP for the pit fiend when you cant do enough dmg to even get there. The shroud is only one quest there are a ton of others that dmg well mean alot even if there arguement was even remotely right (which it most likely isnt).

[Halpo]

People are dumb yes I said DUMB if they think you will not find a group at high levels. I play a 16 Warforged barb on Sarlona. There are very few people who can out DPS me. Heck I am easier to heal than any fleshie. I have a DR/20 on every end boss for almost the duration of any fight due to my docent. who can beat DR/20. lets talk damage I hit for 240- 280 on a crit. HMMMM people grab me as soon as I log on with him because they know yes Grunaxe is going to take out what ever is needed. People who hate warforges and complain about healing them need to wake their NOOB butts up. Warforge Barb's are the BEST DPS in the game for the healing they will need when done right.

[Chorus]

I have 3 WF’s and have no regret what so ever. I dominate on my WF Fighter / Barb / Wizard, and anyone who has run with me can’t tell you anything else. WHY? It’s not because I’m a WF, Dwarf, Human, etc. etc. etc….. It’s cause I know the limits of my characters, and I PLAY THEM RIGHT. Those noobs that were downing WF’s have no clue in the area of skills and its SAD that a lot of players out there are giving you bad advice.

Some “noobs” were making cracks about WF’s a little while ago in a shroud group I was in and I told them we would see what happened. Not only did I never die and out kill all of them, the 3 of them died a total of 12+ times. Just as we were breaking group I messaged them all, “nice job dying noobs, try rerolling as a WF”.


What is comes down to is understanding the advantages and disadvantages of your build and learning to play him right.

[soupertc]

I think any race is OK to play if ya want to play it. PUGs will be hard to get into. And I have to disagree that people who play warforged barbs or tanks tend to be good players. I've grouped with alot who might think they are.....but far from it.

Toasters are fun.....but some of the playing behind the toons are what ruins it for them.