<Guild Name> Guild Only Raid LFMs

[Ekental]

I'm curious as to why these go up, and after a lot of extrapolation and a couple dozen bizarre theories I figured I'd just ask.

I'm pretty positive that there's no trouble seeing who's on the guild tab, although the idea that the entirety of the guild is blind and has to play via a computer compatible form of brail had crossed my mind.

I'm also fairly certain the various guild members running around with <insert raid gear here> makes it apparent that raids have indeed, happened in the guild.

I figured the situation was really out of hand today when I saw a "<Guild Name> Guild Only PoP" run.

I'm holding my breath for a Guild Only WW run at some point as well.

[Kirris]

Heya Ek,
I have always wondered what that was about too Always thought it was perhaps some guilds way of bragging that they were raiding (not sure why you would do that, but stranger things have happened) but that doesn't begin to explain the POP LFM

[soupertc]

LOL.....me and my buddies were wondering the same thing!! Guild Chat could do the same thing I would think, but hey I guess they have their reasons ya know. Must be something brought over from their old server or just to let everyone know they raid.

But PoP???? LMAO.....that takes the cake.

[Pecky]

A) Done by those who think they are in the "leet" guilds in an effort to make themselves look "all that".

B) Its easier to have your guildmates click on an LFM when you're going with a full 12 people. Inviting can be annoying especially when people are bouncing between characters. Its simpler to just tell them to click on the LFM and be done with it.

[Riorik]

I suppose it's lazy or convenient or both.
I really don't see why it's a problem when it goes up - I'd just recommend not trying to barge your way in - it's a quick and easy way to drop your name onto their /ignore list or worse.

I suppose if you know somebody really well on that lfm you might try asking directly.

[Palmetto]

I'd just recommend not trying to barge your way in - it's a quick and easy way to drop your name onto their /ignore list or worse.

ROFLMAO!!

Several months ago I was kicked and squelched for insisting to a party leader that a high charisma character opening the chest first did not affect loot quality. I would place that idiot in the same classification as the "elite" guild only raid lfm's. So, do you really think I would lose any sleep over a "/ignore list or worse" for trying to join one of those groups?

Follow-up: Also lumped into the same category is the fool that squelced me for saying that a Tempest Spine run should not take longer than 20 minutes.

[Tous]

There is also a guild on one of the servers, that may have merged into Sarlona, that has a tiered guild system. I cannot remember the name but, their guild is segmented into 3 or 4 guilds by level.
Would be a easy way to build a raid across a tiered guild.

[barecm]

I really don't understand why this is such a big issue for people. If you are not in that guild, why do you care so much?

To explain the why... Instead of selecting names from a list, inviting each person one by one, it is easier and more efficient to put up a lfm and have those interested join on their own. People may be buying pots or scrolls or finishing a quest ect.. Maybe they want to switch characters and will join when they log back in. It is just more convenient to put an LFM up and allow interested guild members to join when they are ready. Additionally, a lot of guilds have more than 12 members who are ready to raid and its first come first serve.

I wonder why people feel compelled to send tells asking why an LFM is up.

[Ekental]

Ah, well, in an effort to avoid the tells, the thread was made so those curious could learn. By no means is the intent to be offensive.

Many guilds have a raid.. schedule, so members may sign up before hand, or type in 5 minutes beforehand that they want to go, etc etc etc. There are many systems.

A guild can play musical chairs for their raid spots if they want, it's no one else's business.
I did, however, find the possible risk associated with... satisfying my curiosity, acceptable, so I asked.

[Cashiry]

I believe it is just to get the attention of those who are in for instance XXX guild, but are currently playing an alt in $$$ Guild. Thus the reason for these type of LFM's.

[Catiriona]

I am just wondering where this tendency came from... I know it was never seen in Sarlona until after the merge. Looking at this thread we have people from both Adar and Aerenal asking about it as well. Seems a bit strange it just popped up suddenly now if any of the reasonable explanations that have been given are true and valid, Regardless it is simply a curiousity, doesn't really effect anyone one way or another.

[Lebrac]

I really do hate to say this... but GUild only LFM's are AGAINT The CODE of CONDuCT. they are LFM spam and should not be there at all just like trades on the LFM. They put the INVITE button on the guild list for a REASON if you don't know about it learn about it... if u like i will start to report the Rudeness witch it guild only LFM's. and not to mention the additude that goes with them

[archangelspeed]

Hrm. sounds lazy. Even if people are doing other things it just seems strange to put up an LFM looking for your own guildies. It seems more like bragging that your doing a raid than a way of organizing one. And I'm not sure how getting squelched by someone who is leading one of those raids is really a threat or a deterant from trying to get in. . . especially if your guild raids with any sort of frequency what so ever. And with reaver raid, seriously if you have a lagger make /death up to the top, its not like the raid can't be done on elite with 3 people. and a tiered guild? you have to be kidding me.

[SoHo]

My guild uses LFms to organize raids such as reaver where that raid is ran 3-6 times on a scheduled night. Typically, after completing the raid several group members who are not interested in the raid loot recall out, grab the end reward, switch toons and post an LFM so those who are doing the same can join when they are ready. Some people in guild have 2-3 toons reaver ready, some have 6-7. After about 3 raids, it's hard for one person to keep track of who has burned which of their toons and who has not, so an LFM allows those who plan to participate in the next raid to join. It keeps guild chat uncluttered and saves the leader from spamming invites to everyone on in guild.

SoHo

[Yvonne_Blacksword]

I saw that last weekend...
I just thought there are some incredibly huge guilds out there and it was their way of making it easy to gather people, put in guild chat to join the group forming in progress...takes the guess work out of who wants to go. If they don't try to join in a huge guild they might get left behind.
Some guilds are so large that they could run two to three full raids at the same time. No?

The second one...I figured one of the two might be retalitory.

[Cedrica-the-Bard]

I wondered about this myself, saw 3 in one evening for different guilds. I kinda found it annoying but whatever...

What's MORE annoying on the grouping page are people too bloody lazy to put the level requirement. Levels 1-14 EVERYWHERE!!! My level 6 is going to click on that pug Reaver Raid needing Levels 1-14 one of these days and just play stupid about it.

[kungfu]

and this one time, at band camp, I stuck a flute in my.........

[barecm]

Well, annoying to others or not, it will not go away. And no, it is not a violation of the EULA since it is a valid attempt to orgainize a group for a quest; unlike those who post LFM to sell or buy items. Even if others cannot see the usefulness, it is helpful when orgainzing a raid or even a quest. I don't want to have to stare at a guild list until someone logs in and then invite them. When they are ready, they join. Easy. I am not too sure why having an LFM posted with a guild name is so annoying. Just don't click join. Easy. Move on to the next group.

[MacFionn]

I really do hate to say this... but GUild only LFM's are AGAINT The CODE of CONDuCT. they are LFM spam and should not be there at all just like trades on the LFM. They put the INVITE button on the guild list for a REASON if you don't know about it learn about it... if u like i will start to report the Rudeness witch it guild only LFM's. and not to mention the additude that goes with them

Can you cite the specific section of the Code of Conduct that prohibits this use of the LFM panel?

[Lifespawn]

i don't mind the lfm's for a few minutes 30-40 minutes is absurd waiting on 1 take it down we don't want to see it.