An Alternative approach to Platinum ED resets

[Marshal_Lannes]

Simply put plat now is a necessity. For those that have it this is a minor inconvenience, for those that don't its a potential deal breaker. You are incorrect that it hasn't made a comeback but are 100% correct it still holds no value. For it to have value it would have to be usable for things that the players want. What we have here is just a bigger divide between the haves and have nots. Those that have spare plat to waste will barely notice how important it is while those that don't will be pushed even further back down the DDO food chain.

A player that has plat overflowing that ends up in a broken or non synergistic destiny can easily respec and move on in a few minutes. For a new player or one that's just low on plat that same issue can quickly become a major problem. This is not a plat sink its a wall placed to max inconvenience to induce shard sales. Plat sinks should always be optional and reward the player for using them. They should not be mandatory and used to buy your way out of what the devs released in a broken update.

He knows it's back he just can't accept that I'm right. Same as I was about characters being more powerful than ever after U51. As to your last sentence, Plat is not mandatory. An excellent example was made above where two players were farming Borderlands for items to sell and one considered just buying shards. That demonstrates exactly the options players have. And while you are correct that this is but a minor inconvenience for me, shouldn't it be? I've spent a lot of game time accumulating my plat wealth. I'm glad it actually serves a purpose now instead of having to blow 500K on a filigree just to get away from the cap.

[Oxarhamar]

He knows it's back he just can't accept that I'm right. Same as I was about characters being more powerful than ever after U51. As to your last sentence, Plat is not mandatory. An excellent example was made above where two players were farming Borderlands for items to sell and one considered just buying shards. That demonstrates exactly the options players have. And while you are correct that this is but a minor inconvenience for me, shouldn't it be? I've spent a lot of game time accumulating my plat wealth. I'm glad it actually serves a purpose now instead of having to blow 500K on a filigree just to get away from the cap.

Saying that doesn't make it true platinum is not back it's still a broken economy

Characters have not been made more powerful monsters have been nerfed the is a distinction

Selling shards is a option? That's the entire point to advance the micro transaction bypass thanks for finally acknowledged that

[erethizon]

Last month alone; I probably made over 1000 AS (after sales fees), just selling complete random junk on the ASAH.

What do you classify as "complete random junk"? I'm surprised anything like that sells with any regularity.

[Weemadarthur]

And while you are correct that this is but a minor inconvenience for me, shouldn't it be? I've spent a lot of game time accumulating my plat wealth.

I just have to sit back and laugh at this inconsistent statement lol. So players that have spent time grinding out past lives, reaper points, etc are to be ignored despite the time they spent obtaining them as it doesn't feed into your current diatribe (and yes you have spent a lot of time posting disparaging statements on how unbalanced those are) but as this one works in your favor plat is perfectly ok to have spent time accumulating?

It becomes very hard to take you seriously when your only consistency is based on whether it effects you or not. Reaper is evil until you get enough reaper points to be ahead now R6 is the norm, past lives are the worst until you have enough now they are part of the game, plat would be evil if you didn't have enough but as you do its now great. Being an elitist jerk is wrong and now you have officially become one so congratz?

As one of those posting continuously previous to the U51 launch how this was to the benefit of new players your true double standards are really showing when you then fall back on an excuse (I earned it) that you personally have been very disparaging of in the past. Like the vast majority of your posts they are just self serving drivel where you try and pull down anyone above you at the cost of those below. You seem to use the excuse of it will be better for new players only when you think it will actually be better for yourself.

As for the great power increase please take note here. Atm you are only powerful because everything was nerfed in a very bad job of balancing. The result of this is it has negated every thing done since reaper was introduced. The challenge difficulty has now gone. So what happens next. If you have been paying attention over the last year or so you will have heard the devs state that reapers are balanced off of elite and that is why they were unable to reduce the elite diff pre U51 as it would have made reapers too easy. Now the challenge difficulty has gone what do you think the next balancing step will be? So before you start making exuberant claims about how much more powerful you are I would wait until U51 is finished 1st and then judge. Atm you are judging the game when in short it should still be on lamm being tested and balanced. You are not playing the finished product yet.

[Weemadarthur]

What do you classify as "complete random junk"? I'm surprised anything like that sells with any regularity.

I can't speak for DYWYPI here but I can say what I get most of my AS from on the AH. Collectibles always sell reasonably well (I sell in stacks of 15,10 or 5 depending on rarity and get anywhere between 5-50AS per stack depending on type. Dual slot items for crafting always go for at least 10 shards a pop (certain items can go for a lot more) and rare filigrees or augments can be worth a small fortune. When playing the ASAH game I can generally make about 200-300 AS over a weekend so I don't find 1k per month to be completely unbelievable.

The part that these posters tend to ignore though is the vast majority of those shards are still paid for. Just because I don't buy shards doesn't mean no one else does. If no one was buying shards and everyone was to play the AH game we would run out pretty **** fast. Its exactly the same argument as saying duping isnt a problem as i don't dupe while still buying duped items.

[Marshal_Lannes]

So players that have spent time grinding out past lives, reaper points, etc are to be ignored despite the time they spent obtaining them as it doesn't feed into your current diatribe (and yes you have spent a lot of time posting disparaging statements on how unbalanced those are) but as this one works in your favor plat is perfectly ok to have spent time accumulating?
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Apples to oranges. I've already pointed out above that new players are not spending hundreds of thousands of plat to reset trees. Why? Because they don't have a lot of points first of all and second they are picking whatever looks good and sticking with it. They aren't running through and looking for every advantage in the margins. I have long, long consistently advocated for a catchup mechanic in PLs and Reaper points even though it would no longer benefit me as I have over the 50 reaper point threshold I talked about and have a completionist. Just because I don't benefit doesn't mean I've changed my belief that the game needs a catch-up mechanic. You seem to be self-projecting onto me.

Post after post on this forum you read examples of where alts or new players no longer have to labor under the yoke of the old ED system. They don't have thousands of views but they are all over here. In every way, this update benefits new players. U51 is a resounding success. With the tweaks I've mentioned above and how they've made platinum relevant again that will continue to improve the game. The only negatives are from people who don't like change or already hate the game and would pick it apart even if they gave you free bitcoins (they already gave you all the quests for free!). Oh and the meld crowd. My build won't work because I don't have meld! Sure it still works, lower the difficulty you run on.

Anyone who has even a modicum of game experience knows that characters are more powerful after U51 (unless you had a flavor build that relied on meld). You or whoever can make up any excuse you want to justify that all the grief and words spent on these boards dooming U51. Those projections were flat-out wrong. So you can talk about bugs or platinum costs for elite players needing a fourth try at Shiradi or whatever. The fact is characters are more powerful and U51, for the majority of players, is a resounding success.

[Oxarhamar]

Apples to oranges. I've already pointed out above that new players are not spending hundreds of thousands of plat to reset trees. Why? Because they don't have a lot of points first of all and second they are picking whatever looks good and sticking with it. They aren't running through and looking for every advantage in the margins. I have long, long consistently advocated for a catchup mechanic in PLs and Reaper points even though it would no longer benefit me as I have over the 50 reaper point threshold I talked about and have a completionist. Just because I don't benefit doesn't mean I've changed my belief that the game needs a catch-up mechanic. You seem to be self-projecting onto me.

Post after post on this forum you read examples of where alts or new players no longer have to labor under the yoke of the old ED system. They don't have thousands of views but they are all over here. In every way, this update benefits new players. U51 is a resounding success. With the tweaks I've mentioned above and how they've made platinum relevant again that will continue to improve the game. The only negatives are from people who don't like change or already hate the game and would pick it apart even if they gave you free bitcoins (they already gave you all the quests for free!). Oh and the meld crowd. My build won't work because I don't have meld! Sure it still works, lower the difficulty you run on.

Anyone who has even a modicum of game experience knows that characters are more powerful after U51 (unless you had a flavor build that relied on meld). You or whoever can make up any excuse you want to justify that all the grief and words spent on these boards dooming U51. Those projections were flat-out wrong. So you can talk about bugs or platinum costs for elite players needing a fourth try at Shiradi or whatever. The fact is characters are more powerful and U51, for the majority of players, is a resounding success.

And yet now they are jit with the reset cost which makes it a poor system for new players

Nerfing mobs is not the same as having more power

Maybe you should have tried the old Shiradi

[Weemadarthur]

Apples to oranges. I've already pointed out above that new players are not spending hundreds of thousands of plat to reset trees. Why? Because they don't have a lot of points first of all and second they are picking whatever looks good and sticking with it. They aren't running through and looking for every advantage in the margins. I have long, long consistently advocated for a catchup mechanic in PLs and Reaper points even though it would no longer benefit me as I have over the 50 reaper point threshold I talked about and have a completionist. Just because I don't benefit doesn't mean I've changed my belief that the game needs a catch-up mechanic. You seem to be self-projecting onto me.

Post after post on this forum you read examples of where alts or new players no longer have to labor under the yoke of the old ED system. They don't have thousands of views but they are all over here. In every way, this update benefits new players. U51 is a resounding success. With the tweaks I've mentioned above and how they've made platinum relevant again that will continue to improve the game. The only negatives are from people who don't like change or already hate the game and would pick it apart even if they gave you free bitcoins (they already gave you all the quests for free!). Oh and the meld crowd. My build won't work because I don't have meld! Sure it still works, lower the difficulty you run on.

Anyone who has even a modicum of game experience knows that characters are more powerful after U51 (unless you had a flavor build that relied on meld). You or whoever can make up any excuse you want to justify that all the grief and words spent on these boards dooming U51. Those projections were flat-out wrong. So you can talk about bugs or platinum costs for elite players needing a fourth try at Shiradi or whatever. The fact is characters are more powerful and U51, for the majority of players, is a resounding success.

Just rofl. Broken destinies, broken balance and bugs galore = people hate the game or dislike change? Loss of meld only effected flavor builds? The fact that negative posts outweigh positive posts about U51 by a 3 to 1 margin = resounding success for the majority?

Everything you have posted here is just your projecting what you think on the game and playerbase. None of it (as per usual) has any basis in facts.

Just for reference my projection for U51 previous to the update was that it needed at least another pass on lamm or it would be released as an unbalanced, bug riddled mess. Game balance is way off (I specifically stated that if they went too far toward easy that would be as big if not a bigger problem than leaving it as it was) and with 15 pages in the bug thread I think its safe to say there are too many bugs. I think my projections were actually spot on.

[Weemadarthur]

Just rofl. Broken destinies, broken balance and bugs galore = people hate the game or dislike change? Loss of meld only effected flavor builds? The fact that negative posts outweigh positive posts about U51 by a 3 to 1 margin = resounding success for the majority?

Everything you have posted here is just your projecting what you think on the game and playerbase. None of it (as per usual) has any basis in facts.

Just for reference my projection for U51 previous to the update was that it needed at least another pass on lamm or it would be released as an unbalanced, bug riddled mess. Game balance is way off (I specifically stated that if they went too far toward easy that would be as big if not a bigger problem than leaving it as it was) and with 15 pages in the bug thread I think its safe to say there are too many bugs. I think my projections were actually spot on.

Quick edit to point out that the bug thread has now hit 19 pages from the 15 last time I looked. yup that really looks like a well balanced and bug free update.

[Alttab]

I just hit level 30 and I had to reset my destinies just to try two new skills, it cost me 500k+ platinum, this is not very user friendly. The old destiny system was free to reset, they should have at least kept that part.

[Marshal_Lannes]

The fact that negative posts outweigh positive posts about U51 by a 3 to 1 margin = resounding success for the majority?
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I've already addressed this. People don't like change. Further, negative posts garner quadruple the support that positive posts have because people gravitate toward the negative. And these negative posts are all coming from the same disgruntled circle that is negative about anything DDO related. Finally, message board negativity isn't a reflection of anything. It's like thinking that Twitter is the real world. It's not. The majority of people don't think like that. In game - I haven't met a single player on Orien that doesn't like U51. I haven't seen this many epic LFMs in years. So yes, the vast majority is speaking. Some people simply cannot get over that they were so wrong about U51 so they take it out here on the boards. We listen to them, we rationally try to point out all the benefits of U51 but some have chosen to die on the hill that DDO sucks. You aren't one of those, are you?

[Oxarhamar]

I've already addressed this. People don't like change. Further, negative posts garner quadruple the support that positive posts have because people gravitate toward the negative. And these negative posts are all coming from the same disgruntled circle that is negative about anything DDO related. Finally, message board negativity isn't a reflection of anything. It's like thinking that Twitter is the real world. It's not. The majority of people don't think like that. In game - I haven't met a single player on Orien that doesn't like U51. I haven't seen this many epic LFMs in years. So yes, the vast majority is speaking. Some people simply cannot get over that they were so wrong about U51 so they take it out here on the boards. We listen to them, we rationally try to point out all the benefits of U51 but some have chosen to die on the hill that DDO sucks. You aren't one of those, are you?

You can try to minimize all feedback to people don’t like change all you want that doesn’t change the legit feedback and issues with the update

Maybe if the changes was good then more would like it

Guess what Twitter existence is in the real world and has real world effects

[Weemadarthur]

I've already addressed this. People don't like change. Further, negative posts garner quadruple the support that positive posts have because people gravitate toward the negative. And these negative posts are all coming from the same disgruntled circle that is negative about anything DDO related. Finally, message board negativity isn't a reflection of anything. It's like thinking that Twitter is the real world. It's not. The majority of people don't think like that. In game - I haven't met a single player on Orien that doesn't like U51. I haven't seen this many epic LFMs in years. So yes, the vast majority is speaking. Some people simply cannot get over that they were so wrong about U51 so they take it out here on the boards. We listen to them, we rationally try to point out all the benefits of U51 but some have chosen to die on the hill that DDO sucks. You aren't one of those, are you?

Sorry but as stated previously my complaints against U51 were completely valid and proved to be 100% accurate. Nothing I have ever posted has been about change or power loss (unless in response to others). I have not stated that DDO sucks (although that is how you keep interpreting it). I have not at any point given a verdict for or against the U51 changes outside of how they effect game balance and quality.

Asking for a quality product does not mean I dislike the game or think it sucks. Asking for a balanced game doesn't mean I dislike it or think it sucks. If for one minute you were capable of actually looking at what people say outside of your own bias you would see that 90% of these "negative" posts are people (like myself) who enjoy the game but are unhappy with the direction it has taken (here I mean in quality and balance so nothing to do with power or change).

You have repeatedly made the claim to dismiss any post you deem negative that people just don't like change. This is not the case as I have said many many times before. People do expect at least an iota of quality though. If this update had been delayed by just one month we could have had a far better balanced game with a huge reduction in bugs. Most of the current issues could have been resolved in that time. A delay of 2 months could have given us a well balanced and almost bug free update that had been properly tested and the majority would have been happy with. Instead we got a bug ridden unbalanced mess of an update and no amount of pompom waving will reduce that amount of bugs or sloppy workmanship. This is the problem not change.

That awesome power you keep harping on about isn't a good thing its the complete lack of balance showing. While you are happy with your newfound power those that were already playing the top end of the spectrum have had all challenge removed and are now back where they were before reaper was added. Slowly they will start dropping out again just as they did before we got reaper. This wont be a mass exodus overnight but a slow trickle over the next few months as players start to get bored.

Some players just can't admit that anything is wrong with this game. They then in a misguided attempt to be positive dismiss all complaints valid or otherwise. They actually get in the way of people trying to get bugs fixed or the game improved. No matter how carefully or politely anything is explained to them they will just dismiss anything that doesn't conform to their view. You are one of those aren't you?

[Marshal_Lannes]

Since U51 has made DDO the best it's ever been why would we want to delay the release of such a groundbreaking effort? We've already had posts stating that it is SOP for software to patch and release. As I've said this paragraph upon paragraph of misdirection boils down I don't like change (in the game). What players who have already won DDO do isn't my concern. I've said a dozen times here that it's about the journey, not the destination. Enhanced character power from U51 has democratized Reaper in ways that were onerous before. I've not met one person on Orien who doesn't like it. Are there some? Sure. You can't please everyone. Best of luck with the windmills.

[Oxarhamar]

Since U51 has made DDO the best it's ever been why would we want to delay the release of such a groundbreaking effort? We've already had posts stating that it is SOP for software to patch and release. As I've said this paragraph upon paragraph of misdirection boils down I don't like change (in the game). What players who have already won DDO do isn't my concern. I've said a dozen times here that it's about the journey, not the destination. Enhanced character power from U51 has democratized Reaper in ways that were onerous before. I've not met one person on Orien who doesn't like it. Are there some? Sure. You can't please everyone. Best of luck with the windmills.

You can again state that all feedbakc is just resistance to change but that won't make it any less untrue

only one fighting windmills here

U51 may have made DDO the most bugs & unbalanced it's even been in one update alone

[Hawkwier]

Since U51 has made DDO the best it's ever been why would we want to delay the release of such a groundbreaking effort? We've already had posts stating that it is SOP for software to patch and release. As I've said this paragraph upon paragraph of misdirection boils down I don't like change (in the game). What players who have already won DDO do isn't my concern. I've said a dozen times here that it's about the journey, not the destination. Enhanced character power from U51 has democratized Reaper in ways that were onerous before. I've not met one person on Orien who doesn't like it. Are there some? Sure. You can't please everyone. Best of luck with the windmills.

Best it's ever been? O. M. G. What a joke.

Moar Power does not equal better. Balance has been spun out of kilter, both between toons and mobs and across builds and playstyles. Build flexibility is in the dumpster. There is a bugs thread 19 pages long, which doesn't even include the ones the Devs know about. Quests have been closed. Live is currently effectively Lam.

We have you proclaiming all is perfect because you can now solo R4 when you couldn't before, telling us our builds are flavour if we're not happy so our opinions don't count, yet strangely enough, on these very same "flavour" builds we were soloing R4, and more, before this change, when your perfect builds apparently couldn't. How does that work?

We have folks also telling us that R needs beefed up as it's now too easy. If everything is the best it's ever been, why would any rebalance be necessary? Oh, and how do you think the Devs will seek to balance your new-found power? When the nerfs hit will things still be the best they've ever been, or worse? Will you ever, ever be in a position to provide objective criticism of change? Because if not, why would anyone take you seriously?

Arthur has a point. I can recall you getting pelters, being called a socialist by some (which though intended as an insult by them, I personally considered a badge of honour for you at the time). I was impressed you were arguing for equality. Now though, it's like you have some sort of compulsion to praise every Dev-driven infallibility, which overrides any other consideration, and as long as you're happy in your brave new world of R4, everyone else must comply without complaint. It's literally incredible to read. At least Animal Farm was a good read!

U51 was supposed to be a change to improve EDs for a smoother Epic levelling experience. No more, no less. Many nerfs were introduced. Many buffs too. Many folks were naturally concerned about the nerfs. The balance between nerfs and buffs varies with build and also with playstyle. That's to be expected in a complex system. For those that came out ahead, good luck to them, and it seems that is the majority, particularly for ranged and casters. Even those who didn't see as much of a bump in power, the nerfs largely seem to have been offset - for many that may be due to the mob-side nerfs, but however achieved, at least that aspect of the car crash has been mitigated. That's a good thing - for now. I'd also say that if the changes help epic progression then that is good imo. My perspective here is from cap. Which you apparently don't care about, but a sizeable bunch of folks play at.

But none of that. Nerf nor buff, was the intent of U51. Success imo would have looked like broadly zero balance impact (much like was achieved in U50 imo). That intent has failed, and I some cases by a big margin. For now. Does anyone think adjustments are not coming though? Or aren't necessary? I don't believe we will see U51 stabilised until way more patches and c.Jan, but I can say it's definitely not perfect or the best ever right now. And I'm certain the Devs believe the same - or patches and quest closures would self-evidently be unnecessary.

But yeah, we're supposed to shut up and get in line because DDO is, right now, the best it's ever been.

If we'd adopted that dogma on 1st preview, we'd likely still have builder-spender. And I have to say I doubt your tune would be missing a note regardless. Because bad as it was, it's only coz we just don't like change.

All together now: "Everything is awesome..."

What a joke.

Laugh? I very nearly started!

[Weemadarthur]

Since U51 has made DDO the best it's ever been why would we want to delay the release of such a groundbreaking effort? We've already had posts stating that it is SOP for software to patch and release. As I've said this paragraph upon paragraph of misdirection boils down I don't like change (in the game). What players who have already won DDO do isn't my concern. I've said a dozen times here that it's about the journey, not the destination. Enhanced character power from U51 has democratized Reaper in ways that were onerous before. I've not met one person on Orien who doesn't like it. Are there some? Sure. You can't please everyone. Best of luck with the windmills.

I said it before so will say it again.

Some players just can't admit that anything is wrong with this game. They then in a misguided attempt to be positive dismiss all complaints valid or otherwise. They actually get in the way of people trying to get bugs fixed or the game improved. No matter how carefully or politely anything is explained to them they will just dismiss anything that doesn't conform to their view. You are one of those aren't you?

[Marshal_Lannes]

Best it's ever been? O. M. G. What a joke.

Moar Power does not equal better. Balance has been spun out of kilter, both between toons and mobs and across builds and playstyles. Build flexibility is in the dumpster. There is a bugs thread 19 pages long, which doesn't even include the ones the Devs know about. Quests have been closed. Live is currently effectively Lam.

We have you proclaiming all is perfect because you can now solo R4 when you couldn't before, telling us our builds are flavour if we're not happy so our opinions don't count, yet strangely enough, on these very same "flavour" builds we were soloing R4, and more, before this change, when your perfect builds apparently couldn't. How does that work?

What does that mean when you say balance has been spun out of kilter? Power has nothing to do with better it's the way the game plays. We are no longer confronted with bloated mobs of HPs which almost no one liked. There is no longer a need for having an entire shopping cart full of past lives and reaper points to succeed at reaper questing. Abilities your character had in heroics are no longer useless in epics. These are the things that have made the game better - best it's ever been. I would actually argue that the game now is balanced exactly as it always should have been.

I've already addressed the bugs. They will patch as we move on. None of them interfere with my enjoyment of the game except the two raids being down. But it is an inconvenience at most. I've also already addressed builds that relied exclusively on meld to get them through reaper. Finally, you're taking out of context what I said about R4. I said R4 is the new elite (which it is). I have no opinions on solo play except to say what I always have - DDO is a group game.

We have folks also telling us that R needs beefed up as it's now too easy. If everything is the best it's ever been, why would any rebalance be necessary? Oh, and how do you think the Devs will seek to balance your new-found power? When the nerfs hit will things still be the best they've ever been, or worse? Will you ever, ever be in a position to provide objective criticism of change? Because if not, why would anyone take you seriously?

You cannot challenge players who have already won the game. R10 was too easy for them before as well, they simply dominated it while they carried the other 4 players in the group. Part of this is that those other four players can now contribute and honestly some of the elites egos can't handle it. U51 has democratized mid/high-level reaper play. Of course, there will be ED balancing going forward. We've already had our first nerf Shiradi post. Nerfs come and go and most of us shrug our shoulders and adapt. You've never heard me go ballistic over a nerf. They went through a series of nerfs or proxy nerfs on Paladin, a class I played a lot. I've never felt the need to make disparaging remarks about the game or threaten to quit over it. It's a game, I enjoy playing it, I move on.

Arthur has a point. I can recall you getting pelters, being called a socialist by some (which though intended as an insult by them, I personally considered a badge of honour for you at the time). I was impressed you were arguing for equality. Now though, it's like you have some sort of compulsion to praise every Dev-driven infallibility, which overrides any other consideration, and as long as you're happy in your brave new world of R4, everyone else must comply without complaint. It's literally incredible to read. At least Animal Farm was a good read!

Again, I feel you're self-projecting here. I've addressed in a previous post that I have many issues with the game and have offered numerous examples where I don't agree with the decisions that the Devs have taken. I started this very post calling for changes to the way we interact with platinum since it is once again an important factor for our characters. Most recently DDOQUESTS2021 came out. I was against this unless they enhanced what was given to VIPs. But I never made posts yelling at the game about it. I have faith that they will address VIP value. I've already stated that U51 has opened up reaper play to virtually everyone. You can decide whether or not how that translates into socio-economic systems.

U51 was supposed to be a change to improve EDs for a smoother Epic levelling experience. No more, no less. Many nerfs were introduced. Many buffs too. Many folks were naturally concerned about the nerfs. The balance between nerfs and buffs varies with build and also with playstyle. That's to be expected in a complex system. For those that came out ahead, good luck to them, and it seems that is the majority, particularly for ranged and casters. Even those who didn't see as much of a bump in power, the nerfs largely seem to have been offset - for many that may be due to the mob-side nerfs, but however achieved, at least that aspect of the car crash has been mitigated. That's a good thing - for now. I'd also say that if the changes help epic progression then that is good imo. My perspective here is from cap. Which you apparently don't care about, but a sizeable bunch of folks play at.

But none of that. Nerf nor buff, was the intent of U51. Success imo would have looked like broadly zero balance impact (much like was achieved in U50 imo). That intent has failed, and I some cases by a big margin. For now. Does anyone think adjustments are not coming though? Or aren't necessary? I don't believe we will see U51 stabilised until way more patches and c.Jan, but I can say it's definitely not perfect or the best ever right now. And I'm certain the Devs believe the same - or patches and quest closures would self-evidently be unnecessary.
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Where was that the stated goal? U51 was always going to create massive changes in the game as it amped up to move toward an increased level cap. Do you actually believe no changes would happen when there were completely redoing nearly every ability associated with Epic questing? We have disagreement on balance - I don't feel the game was balanced before. Now, the game feels so much better. You no longer have a situation where everyone is zooming along in heroics then they hit 20 and half their abilities don't work but the characters who have 5 twists and fully loaded EDs can suddenly destroy epic quests while everyone else labors over killing a 13K HP rat. That no longer exists and the game is far better off for it.

Hopefully these comments have answered your questions.

[Aelonwy]

With platinum making such a big comeback opportunities abound for a tongue-in-cheek haggle enhancing item for the DDO anniversary event.

They've already anticipated this joke:
https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Cheap_Shot_(level_30)

[myliftkk_v2]

Waste of time responding to someone who got called on their technical knowledge gap in the very first response and kept chugging along like Wile E. over the cliff.

You're not going to make the OP look down, because as long as they don't they can keep running to infinity.

Charging for something you used to get for free (ED resets) is SOP for this game. They're going to nickel-n-dime most of the players to death, literally.