A few words as we move into MOTU on Monday...

[Tolero]

Alright all, now that Lamannia enters its long slumber until the next preview/beta-ish time, wanted to cover a few last details before launch day...

- There are some issues that we'll be patching for after the launch. These are fixes that either couldn't make the last build window, or that didn't take hold in the last build (e.g. I'm looking at you madstone wackiness, epic lvl 1 after opening a challenge, uncentered monks losing gear buffs, and weird tome of fate drop rates). Thank you to all players who helped file bug reports and tried out MOTU on Lamannia during beta!

- The Lamannia forums will be bumped back down the forum list into hibernation, though still open and visible.

- Monday is "the day", but that also means the pre-purchase bonuses will go away. If you like the pre-purchase bonuses, this weekend is the last time to get them! You'll still be able to get the Xpack, but not with the battle panthers, masks, pets, and XP tomes. If you're into that, nab it while you still can. If you have friends who you even suspect are into bonus items like that, better let them know so they're not kicking themselves once the bonuses are gone (6+ years later and I STILL routinely get PMs about Founder status so for some of you I know this kind of stuff matters, hence why I'm calling it out).

- That 30% XP bonus is still on this weekend. Also don't forget to complete the Spinner of Shadows quest!

Thanks everyone for playing on Lamannia, and have fun this weekend! Monday we'll invade Eveningstar

[Ape_Man]

D0000000000000000mmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!@@##@#@#!~!!!!!

[yynderjohn]

Are we getting some sort of free respec with the expansion?

[Tolero]

Are we getting some sort of free respec with the expansion?

Yes Kruz will allow 1 free respec (a lesser reincarnation) per character. You don't need a heart of wood, just talk to Kruz and he'll let you do a lesser. Only restriction is it can't be a true, greater, or + reincarnation, just a basic lesser reincarnation.

[Braegan]

Also don't forget to complete the Spinner of Shadows quest!

Didn't notice before, but is that a pre-req to going to Forgotten Realms? And if so, does every character need to do it, or is it a once unlock per server?

Thanks.

[DemonMage]

You'll still be able to get the Xpack, but not with the battle panthers, masks, pets, and XP tomes.

Wait the XP tomes are part of the pre-order bonuses too? As the adventure packs/tomes/TP are all listed as just being part of the packs (except the CE of course which is pre-order only).

Didn't notice before, but is that a pre-req to going to Forgotten Realms? And if so, does every character need to do it, or is it a once unlock per server?

Yes that quest line is required to learn about this whole Forgotten Realms portal thing and get access to the chamber with the portal and the quest line to travel over. I'd hazard a guess it's per character but didn't test.

[Sgt_Hart]

- Monday is "the day", but that also means the pre-purchase bonuses will go away. If you like the pre-purchase bonuses, this weekend is the last time to get them! You'll still be able to get the Xpack, but not with the battle panthers, masks, pets, and XP tomes. If you're into that, nab it while you still can. If you have friends who you even suspect are into bonus items like that, better let them know so they're not kicking themselves once the bonuses are gone (6+ years later and I STILL routinely get PMs about Founder status so for some of you I know this kind of stuff matters, hence why I'm calling it out).

Hope to god I'm mis-reading that.. or at least drawing an inaccurate conclusion when the pre-order page has All along promised:

Lesser Tome of Learning
(1 free tome per character forever)
Permanently increases experience earned by a character up to level 20. Provides +25% bonus to experience for first-time quest completions and +10% boost to other earned experience points. Stacks with other experience boosts and persists through all forms of reincarnation.

Frankly, changing the pre-order bonus mechanic in the first place is a mistake.



Please turbine, Make the INT check.. It's DC 4 fer christ-sake.

[danotmano1998]

Didn't notice before, but is that a pre-req to going to Forgotten Realms? And if so, does every character need to do it, or is it a once unlock per server?

Thanks.

Yes, kind of like flagging for a raid, only you "flag" to get into Eberron.
Yes, each character has to do it, from what playtesting has revealed to me.

[DemonMage]

Hope to god I'm mis-reading that.

You're misreading, the way the quote is written is saying that the XP tomes are part of the preorder, so if you buy the Standard pack you don't get the one free Greater if you buy it after the 25th. That has nothing to do with the CE's lesser tomes being handed out.

Frankly, changing the pre-order bonus mechanic in the first place is a mistake.

Also the pre-order mechanic isn't being changed anyways. Once the 25th hits, it's not pre-ordering anymore, it's just buying. Hence why the CE is going away and some of the bonuses.

[Tolero]

Didn't notice before, but is that a pre-req to going to Forgotten Realms? And if so, does every character need to do it, or is it a once unlock per server?

Thanks.

All characters need to do it once (even if on casual). Quest is free, and also if you already ran it back when U13 launched in February you're good, you don't need to repeat it on Monday.

[MaXimillionZero]

Hope to god I'm mis-reading that

You are. He means that the ability to preorder the expansion is going away, so you can no longer gain access to XP tomes or any of the other stuff. You'll still continue to get them on every character if you did preorder.

[Ertay]

Yes Kruz will allow 1 free respec (a lesser reincarnation) per character. You don't need a heart of wood, just talk to Kruz and he'll let you do a lesser. Only restriction is it can't be a true, greater, or + reincarnation, just a basic lesser reincarnation.

This won't persist through TRs though, correct?

[danotmano1998]

Hope to god I'm mis-reading that.. or at least drawing an inaccurate conclusion when the pre-order page has All along promised:

No, I think he means that you won't be able to buy the tome packages.
But you should still be getting those tomes from now until whenever on new characters so long as you purchased the x-pac.

But anyone that DIDN'T buy the expansion pack won't be getting those tomes unless they buy them from the DDO store.

[Cyr]

Tolero please confirm that the CE purchase after the 25th WILL STILL contain the 1 greater tome and a lesser for every other toon on an account forever as it was never listed as a pre-order benefit.

The other stuff you mentioned were listed as pre-order benefits on the other hand.

[PNellesen]

Yes Kruz will allow 1 free respec (a lesser reincarnation) per character. You don't need a heart of wood, just talk to Kruz and he'll let you do a lesser. Only restriction is it can't be a true, greater, or + reincarnation, just a basic lesser reincarnation.

That's welcome news. Is there any time limit on it?

[DemonMage]

Tolero please confirm that the CE purchase after the 25th WILL STILL contain the 1 greater tome and a lesser for every other toon on an account forever as it was never listed as a pre-order benefit.

The other stuff you mentioned were listed as pre-order benefits on the other hand.

The CE tomes are not being changed. The CE itself is completely going away as a buyable option with the 25th. The whole CE is a pre-order thing only.

[Tolero]

Hope to god I'm mis-reading that.. or at least drawing an inaccurate conclusion when the pre-order page has All along promised:



Frankly, changing the pre-order bonus mechanic in the first place is a mistake.



Please turbine, Make the INT check.. It's DC 4 fer christ-sake.

It's the "tomes forever" part that goes away. Collector's edition won't be available after launch, which is the edition that contains the "1 Free Tome per character forever".

Standard and Base will only lose anything that is listed specifically as "bonus", so they will still include a tome.

[Tolero]

The CE tomes are not being changed. The CE itself is completely going away as a buyable option with the 25th. The whole CE is a pre-order thing only.

Correct.

[Cyr]

The CE tomes are not being changed. The CE itself is completely going away as a buyable option with the 25th. The whole CE is a pre-order thing only.

Honestly, I would like a Turbine rep to speak on this not random forum guy #5 no offense intented.

LoTRO had similar pre-order stuff and it sold those after the release date without the bonus pre-order items. Very similar marketting and such.

[danotmano1998]

Honestly, I would like a Turbine rep to speak on this not random forum guy #5 no offense intented.

LoTRO had similar pre-order stuff and it sold those after the release date without the bonus pre-order items. Very similar marketting and such.

Psst. Dev Ninja'd you. Look up.