Epic Mabar Wraps Radiant Blast Proc Rate

**Vanshilar** · 11-28-2011, 01:07 AM

I finally capped my monk recently. One of the things I wanted to test out was the proc rate of the Epic Wraps of Endless Light from the Mabar festival, otherwise known as the Mabar wraps. From ddowiki:

The "Radiant Blast" effect is the tested proc rate here.

Summary of results:
* Proc rate: 1.01 +- 0.10% (95% confidence interval, or 2 standard deviations)
* Damage: Average 380.2, st.dev. 22.7
This fits a variety of possible dice, such as 60d10+50, 40d12+120, 15d20+225, or 10d25+250. Since 10*25 = 250, I'd guess it's 10d25+250, but there's quite a few that works. (d25 is kind of nonstandard die.)

Dataset:
* 37705 hit attempts (i.e. including rolls of 1)
* 35804 successful hits
* 361 Radiant Blast procs (shows up in log as "Radiant Strike")

Radiant Blast damages:

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The data was collected by hitting the poor ship's training dummy. Radiant Blast damages were multiplied by 2/3 (rounded up) to back out the original damage before the helpless state was considered. I was in wind stance 3 but otherwise unbuffed (except for some moron named Oomba that decided to come by and throw hero's companion and other buffs on me during one of the videos). The data comes from 6 videos, totaling around 3.7 hours of footage. Links are below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icp_r8WQhVc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCUgR7wAsoQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwLjzQU31hI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cALAY8Ovz3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IECvf65Dor8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb6lhkZVDqg

1% proc rate of average 380 damage each means it's roughly 3.8 damage per hit, so effectively, the radiant blast effect is like another 1d6 (average 3.5) damage effect.

**Kinerd** · 11-28-2011, 03:07 PM

Very nice!

**Backley** · 12-01-2011, 10:47 AM

Sweet testing, thanks!

**t0r012** · 12-01-2011, 08:50 PM

thanks for the work.

the end result is very disappointing only another 1d6 on avg(roughly). So the burst function is actually a good bit more damage.

**grandeibra** · 12-02-2011, 12:03 AM

Great work as always OP

One comment on the damage, I would assume most/many primarily use these on undead where the damage is multiplied. From very limited testing I got the same regular 380 damage as you and vs undead around twice that 760 and vs vampires around 1000

**Backley** · 12-02-2011, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by grandeibra

Great work as always OP

One comment on the damage, I would assume most/many primarily use these on undead where the damage is multiplied. From very limited testing I got the same regular 380 damage as you and vs undead around twice that 760 and vs vampires around 1000

It is actualy:
http://ddowiki.com/page/Radiant_Blast
+50% damage to all undead (380 x 1.5 = 570 avg)
vampires take the +50% for being undead and another 50% light vulnerability, thus they take 225% damage. (1.5 x 1.5 = 2.25. 380 x 2.25 = 855 avg)

**grandeibra** · 12-02-2011, 04:41 PM

@backley

the ddowiki page is wrong, or I completely misunderstand something

My test was to go in to any random undead q and hit until i got a total of 20 such strikes. none were below 721 and none much above 800

My chosen q was deaed predators. Since the average was pretty much spot on twice the 380 average on regular mobs, that leads me to believe damage is double for undead (unless the zombies in there are extra senstive but not 225% sensitive)

p.s. I just went in again and did 5 hits. same result as before. for example: (Combat): You hit Dread Zombie for 4 points of light damage. [the radiance part] (Combat): You hit Dread Zombie for 796 points of light damage [the blast part]

**LeLoric** · 12-02-2011, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by grandeibra

@backley

the ddowiki page is wrong, or I completely misunderstand something

My test was to go in to any random undead q and hit until i got a total of 20 such strikes. none were below 721 and none much above 800

My chosen q was deaed predators. Since the average was pretty much spot on twice the 380 average on regular mobs, that leads me to believe damage is double for undead (unless the zombies in there are extra senstive but not 225% sensitive)

p.s. I just went in again and did 5 hits. same result as before. for example: (Combat): You hit Dread Zombie for 4 points of light damage. [the radiance part] (Combat): You hit Dread Zombie for 796 points of light damage [the blast part]

This is correct it's +100% for undead. Vamps then take 50% more of what and undead would take so a normal undead wold be the 380ish average *2 for 760 and then vamps would take 760*1.5=1140.

Note this is different for pale master undead forms as they all take double dmg from light except vamp taking 4x.

**Backley** · 12-03-2011, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by LeLoric

This is correct it's +100% for undead. Vamps then take 50% more of what and undead would take so a normal undead wold be the 380ish average *2 for 760 and then vamps would take 760*1.5=1140.

Note this is different for pale master undead forms as they all take double dmg from light except vamp taking 4x.

Looks like we need more tested results to confirm this.

**LeLoric** · 12-03-2011, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Backley

Looks like we need more tested results to confirm this.

I don't I have already confirmed it through playing. Non undead radiant blasts proc in the upper 300's/lower 400's just like the op has shown.

Every undead proc other than vamps have always been 750-850 ish. Thats double.

It's pretty clear to see actually if you use a radiant blast weapon.

**Monkey_Archer** · 12-03-2011, 01:04 PM

Very interesting... I just assumed it was a standard 2% proc...

So vs undead this is about on par with regular incineration... This means the new elemental greataxe of fire is very close to the mournlode GA vs undead... one more reason not to make a mournlode

**Vanshilar** · 12-11-2011, 02:00 PM

I went out and tested the wraps against some undead in Wiz King (the Menechtarun Ghasts). The ghasts do not have any particular vulnerability against light damage (i.e. no purple numbers). It looks like damage vs undead is indeed doubled, but it's not simply multiplying the damage by 2. Instead, the amount of dice is multiplied by 2. So if the normal dice is 10d25 + 250, then the dice versus undead is 20d25 + 500. You can see this in the data below, which is the sorted observed damages. Note the continuous sequence of damages from 720 to 724, which wouldn't be possible if it were taking a damage number and then multiplying it, the way helpless is done (or at least, not with any multiplier greater than 1.2). Of course, as stated above, quite a few different dice may work and fit the statistics given so far, but I think it's sufficient to just take the average and standard deviation for now.

The data is of 67 hits against undead:
Average: 757.85
St. Dev: 32.97

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So when used against undead, it's basically a 1% chance of doing around 760 damage, or average 7.6 points of damage per hit. This makes it slightly better than 2d6 per attack versus undead, roughly like 3d4 per hit or so.

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