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    Default Artificer and Completionist

    So, all those completionists out there will have to TR ($$$) into an Artificer ($$$) and then TR ($$$) back into their original class to get back to where they are today.

    Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dameron View Post
    So, all those completionists out there will have to TR ($$$) into an Artificer ($$$) and then TR ($$$) back into their original class ($$$) to get back to where they are today.

    Nice.
    This isn't a surprise is it?
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    There's a big warning on the completionist feat that when new classes are created, the feat will be deactivated. It shouldn't some as a surprise to anyone.
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    Not to sound like a jerk, but this was a known issue.

    I don't think anyone goes to completionist without keeping this in mind. It's not like they've hidden the fact that they're adding new classes.

    It totally sucks, and I feel the pain. I think a compromise would be to not deactivate the completionist feat UNTIL the toon TRs again.
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    So do you want turbine not to make money on this game? I mean, really.

    You can grind the tp to do it for free, so I don't see a problem.

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    It's been clear that would be the case since completionist was added. It's in the description of the feat. As far as I see it, you have many choices:

    1. Don't go for completionist
    2. Get completionist, enjoy it while you have it, don't get it again
    3. Spend the money

    I'm not sure why you think it costs too much. Turbine's not handing out free puppies - this is a business. If you don't want the product, don't buy it. If you do want it, be prepared to demonstrate that by shelling out the cash.

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    The Completionist feat will turn into a free feat respec token whenever a new class is released.

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    And why does TRing cost $$$? I'd expect a completionist to have 40 tokens in their bag by that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dameron View Post
    So, all those completionists out there will have to TR ($$$) into an Artificer ($$$) and then TR ($$$) back into their original class to get back to where they are today.

    Nice.
    They warned us ahead of time that there would be more classes released and that this would be the case for the completionist feat.. no surprise really. Might have been an issue if they were not up front with the information... but they were from the very beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PresentTense View Post
    It's been clear that would be the case since completionist was added. It's in the description of the feat. As far as I see it, you have many choices:

    1. Don't go for completionist
    2. Get completionist, enjoy it while you have it, don't get it again
    3. Spend the money

    I'm not sure why you think it costs too much. Turbine's not handing out free puppies - this is a business. If you don't want the product, don't buy it. If you do want it, be prepared to demonstrate that by shelling out the cash.
    You could also just stay an Artificer. That'll save you the last TR. But I doubt folks who went all the way to completionist are going to be so enthralled with Artificer that very many of them will decide to not TR back to their "goal" class and stay there.

    I understand TRing to get completionist on new classes, and paying to get new classes, but perhaps Turbine could also award a free TR upon achieving completionist to avoid the savage gouging of having to buy two TRs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dameron View Post
    So, all those completionists out there will have to TR ($$$) into an Artificer ($$$) and then TR ($$$) back into their original class to get back to where they are today.

    Nice.

    TR = 20 Epic Tokens
    Artificer = VIP

    Doesn't necessarily require spending a dime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    The Completionist feat will turn into a free feat respec token whenever a new class is released.
    WOw...a developer posting regarding the completionist feat for the first time in a year...


    So...any plans on making it free for the sake of all that is good and just in this world..?

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    Hey, it would also be nice to let people keep their +4 tomes on a TR. You know, 20 TRs, finally done, eats a +4 whatever tome as the icing, then bam!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durnak View Post
    So...any plans on making it free for the sake of all that is good and just in this world..?
    The problem with all that is good and just.......one person's good is another person's evil and just is all .... ummm .... just just based on just your point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladiun View Post
    TR = 20 Epic Tokens
    Artificer = VIP

    Doesn't necessarily require spending a dime.
    I don't know of a single completionist out of three who didn't use XP Pots, and of all those I know of that TR, most of them use XP pots too. Then there are the mana pots that make flying through levels with a caster ridiculously easy.

    Regarding the OP, the worst part is, imo, the +4 tomes they have to re-obtain.

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    Somebody explain how this is a surprise to anyone that has obtained completionist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokiewa View Post
    Somebody explain how this is a surprise to anyone that has obtained completionist?
    I know right?

    That and there really aren't any completionists complaining.

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    It really shouldn't come as a surprise - it's pretty clearly labeled.

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    Completionist
    Usage: Passive
    You win DDO! You've leveled to 20
    in every class, and for your effort
    you can take this feat to get a +2
    bonus to all skills and ability
    scores. When more classes are
    added, this feat will deactivate
    and you will need to gain those
    past lives before this benefit
    reactivates
    .

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    I would have thought that anyone gunning for completionist would have already had a plan to deal with new classes from the get-go. Personally, I think this is one more reason why the Feat itself should be free.
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    The Completionist feat will turn into a free feat respec token whenever a new class is released.
    But I guess for now, this is a nice gesture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dameron View Post
    So, all those completionists out there will have to TR ($$$) into an Artificer ($$$) and then TR ($$$) back into their original class to get back to where they are today.

    Nice.
    It is nice and appropriate and not a surprise.

    Keep tomes? - I'm on board for that, but completionist should turn off when new classes come along (the free feat respec is actually an unexpected bonus).

    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dameron View Post
    So, all those completionists out there will have to TR ($$$) into an Artificer ($$$) and then TR ($$$) back into their original class to get back to where they are today.

    Nice.
    Or… LR a few times into an artificer ($$$) and then TR back to their original class.
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