Friendlier forums

[Magusrex777]

I started playing about the time F2P went live. I have been a pretty active forum presence. I must say that over time these forums and inside the game have become a much friendlier place for the new player. It may not seem that way at times but over all I think people are more understanding and helpful now than they were before. Since day one there have been many people who have been extremely welcoming and they deserve a lot of credit. Here is a personal thank you from me.

That said, over the coarse of time some very negative and unwelcoming people have either stopped posting, reduced the amount of the negative posting or have completely changed the tone of their posting. Another great big thank you. I disagree with many people from time to time but I feel like there is not the animosity there once was. I think the F2P launch was such a huge change, those first few months there were significantly more people who knew completely nothing about the game than there were people who knew about it. It was probably a frustrating time for some. For those of you who went out of your way to help I feel like your efforts are now paying off.

Some of us actually know a little bit about what we are talking about and can help… and sometimes, I am sure a little knowledge is dangerous… I think the influx of brand new players although still strong is more steady than one giant avalanche. If I try to put myself in a veteran players shoes, I must admit there may have been some very challenging moments that would have tried my patience.

The people who recognize me know I am a glass half full guy but I feel like things are starting be more than half full around here and it has everything to do with all of you. Thanks

[HeavenlyCloud]

No.

[sirdanile]

I call bull, theres absolutely NO way we're a friendly forums *takes a look at warhammer/wow forums*

OH SH*T Glad i'm back!

/vomit

[Magusrex777]

No.

Yes

[Kalari]

Ive changed somewhat instead of being blatantly insulting to those who dont get it I either squelch them or use their own logic to show them how flawed they are. IM sorry I wont be changing anytime soon take me as I am or ignore me And heaven help you if you get into rounds with me. Either way ive toned down because I dont wish to get banned even though I do think there are too many people on the forums who talk out the wrong part of their anatomy who criticizes those of us coming forth with experience and barely made it out of lowbie levels. All I can do at this point is step away calm down and try to respond best I can. I do agree there is a lot less of the more battling type threads and thank goodness its so hard to control myself with those

[techknowannie]

I do agree there is a lot less of the more battling type threads and thank goodness its so hard to control myself with those

lol I know those threads just bring out my inner troll

and I sware the older I get the more my inner troll tries to rear her ugly head and the harder it is for me to resist lol

[Kalari]

lol I know those threads just bring out my inner troll

and I sware the older I get the more my inner troll tries to rear her ugly head and the harder it is for me to resist lol

Hehe same here and lord help people on my real cranky days

[Warlawk]

I would actually have to strongly disagree. The class forums are pretty helpful and friendly.

The general forums are usually just more of what we've all come to expect of internet forums. People who've been here for years crapping all over threads they don't like just because they've seen it before. Guess what, not everyone on the forum has discussed that same subject into the ground. Coming into a thread and blatantly derailing it with ceaseless "cookie" posts just makes you look childish, petty and shows who the trolls really are.

Guess what, if you've seen a thread 500 times and don't want to discuss it again, you don't have to click on it. For all the claims of an older player base and more adult outlook, the general forums certainly don't show it.

[Kalari]

I would actually have to strongly disagree. The class forums are pretty helpful and friendly.

The general forums are usually just more of what we've all come to expect of internet forums. People who've been here for years crapping all over threads they don't like just because they've seen it before. Guess what, not everyone on the forum has discussed that same subject into the ground. Coming into a thread and blatantly derailing it with ceaseless "cookie" posts just makes you look childish, petty and shows who the trolls really are.

Guess what, if you've seen a thread 500 times and don't want to discuss it again, you don't have to click on it. For all the claims of an older player base and more adult outlook, the general forums certainly don't show it.

In the same respect having fifty threads about another mmo being better then ours really doesnt deserve anything but cookie talk. It really is like going to someone's house and telling them their decor sucks and compared to your own house they really need to make these changes to be relevant.

But I guess us vets are just nothing but immature babies who take the fun out of people who want to say "this is not like wow you should be more like wow."

[Warlawk]

In the same respect having fifty threads about another mmo being better then ours really doesnt deserve anything but cookie talk. It really is like going to someone's house and telling them their decor sucks and compared to your own house they really need to make these changes to be relevant.

But I guess us vets are just nothing but immature babies who take the fun out of people who want to say "this is not like wow you should be more like wow."

Except this isn't your house.
Except you don't have to "listen" to what they're saying.

You want a metaphor here's one.

You go to the park, as you're walking past you hear a group of people discussing the differences between WoW and DDO. Even though you don't know these people, and (allegedly) don't want to take part in this discussion, you step into their space and tell them "This is a stupid discussion, lets talk about cookies".

Who comes off looking like a tool in that situation? The forums are a public place, not your "home". By doing things like that, you do indeed look like the "immature babies" you named yourself in your own post. Grow up a little, you don't want to read about it, don't click the thread.

[sirdanile]

Except this isn't your house.

ddo = our house, wow = their house

not sure what you're talking about as far as the rest of your words go :0

Ps staying on topic I love all of you on these forums!

[Sweyn]

No.

No

No

Yes

[Kalari]

Except this isn't your house.
Except you don't have to "listen" to what they're saying.

You want a metaphor here's one.

You go to the park, as you're walking past you hear a group of people discussing the differences between WoW and DDO. Even though you don't know these people, and (allegedly) don't want to take part in this discussion, you step into their space and tell them "This is a stupid discussion, lets talk about cookies".

Who comes off looking like a tool in that situation? The forums are a public place, not your "home". By doing things like that, you do indeed look like the "immature babies" you named yourself in your own post. Grow up a little, you don't want to read about it, don't click the thread.

Isnt the point of posting on a public thread to get people to read such? or should we all stick to only posting stuff that everyone agrees on? Its a public forums the only ones who can tell anyone not to post anything anywhere are the mods. What you and I think is immature is irrelevant. Grow up listen pal easy to say that to people behind a keyboard you have not idea who you say that to if posting a cookie picture is more immature to you then spamming a forums about another game more power to you. But id like to know what your definition of grown up is?

I work hard pay taxes care for my family, I come to a game forums read nonsense and call people out on it. What I say in this forums especially to those who clutter it up does not make me a non grown up no matter what your views on it is. If ignoring the threads really made them go away it would be one thing but it does not. But either way your such a paragon of morality im sure you'll just say the same thing over and over so your going to join the island to so I dont slip up and act immature and say something to you thats non grown up.

One last edit before I ignore because I re read that metophor as one of the most stupidest ever, If I heard someone in a park talking about ddo and wow its a park not a game forums devoted to ddo so id look like a maniac getting involved in a park which has no ties to Turbine or ddo. But thanks for letting me know how silly it is to even try to have a debate with you right there lol a park. Yeah thats really logical there. This is the ddo forums hence why making tons of threads about WOW makes no friggin sense but according to your park analogy I should just be happy people are posting about anything? Yeah your /squelched.

[Beld]

I would actually have to strongly disagree. The class forums are pretty helpful and friendly.

The general forums are usually just more of what we've all come to expect of internet forums. People who've been here for years crapping all over threads they don't like just because they've seen it before. Guess what, not everyone on the forum has discussed that same subject into the ground. Coming into a thread and blatantly derailing it with ceaseless "cookie" posts just makes you look childish, petty and shows who the trolls really are.

Guess what, if you've seen a thread 500 times and don't want to discuss it again, you don't have to click on it. For all the claims of an older player base and more adult outlook, the general forums certainly don't show it.

Aren't you doing the same thing in this thread ???

And as for your metaphor further down the thread, you are doing EXACTLY the same thing.....and btw....don't you have cookies to discuss in your thread ??

[DoctorWhofan]

No.

blah has spoken.

[Zippo]

Except this isn't your house.
Except you don't have to "listen" to what they're saying.

You want a metaphor here's one.

You go to the park, as you're walking past you hear a group of people discussing the differences between WoW and DDO. Even though you don't know these people, and (allegedly) don't want to take part in this discussion, you step into their space and tell them "This is a stupid discussion, lets talk about cookies".

Who comes off looking like a tool in that situation? The forums are a public place, not your "home". By doing things like that, you do indeed look like the "immature babies" you named yourself in your own post. Grow up a little, you don't want to read about it, don't click the thread.

And why are you wrong about this?


Well when you invest as much time and money into something you kind of take a little pride in it, you kid of take a little bit of IT with you, you find a commonality with people like Kalari and with that you do kind of make it "your house". So to come into our house and tout about that "other game" and what it does or doesn't do is a bit on the rude side. As for an analogy I think Kalari's was as pertinent if not more to the argument.

[Warlawk]

Isnt the point of posting on a public thread to get people to read such? or should we all stick to only posting stuff that everyone agrees on? Its a public forums the only ones who can tell anyone not to post anything anywhere are the mods.

If you have nothing relevant to the topic to post, then why even click the thread? How is posting cookies relevant to the discussion? You don't even want the discussion here, your posts have made that clear, yet you are more than willing to troll the thread and keep it bumped.

What you and I think is immature is irrelevant. Grow up listen pal easy to say that to people behind a keyboard you have not idea who you say that to if posting a cookie picture is more immature to you then spamming a forums about another game more power to you. But id like to know what your definition of grown up is?

Yes, I think trolling a thread simply because you don't want to read it is immature. As you already said, the only people who can decide if a topic belongs here is the mods. It's not your place to decide that. By filling it with useless off topic spam, you are indeed being a troll.

What I say in this forums especially to those who clutter it up does not make me a non grown up no matter what your views on it is.

People who clutter it up? You mean like pointlessly trolling threads with pictures of cookies instead of posting about the topic at hand? That does indeed make you childish and petty.

If ignoring the threads really made them go away it would be one thing but it does not.

Who cares if they go away. Are those threads kicking your puppy? Those threads hurt exactly no one. If you don't want to read them, don't. By opening the thread and spamming it with off topic garbage, you're being petty, immature and outright trolling the thread. If you don't get that basic point, I'm not sure there is any basis for discussion here because you're either so out of touch with reality it won't be possible, or more likely, just trolling this thread.

[Kalari]

And why are you wrong about this?


Well when you invest as much time and money into something you kind of take a little pride in it, you kid of take a little bit of IT with you, you find a commonality with people like Kalari and with that you do kind of make it "your house". So to come into our house and tout about that "other game" and what it does or doesn't do is a bit on the rude side. As for an analogy I think Kalari's was as pertinent if not more to the argument.

Bah Zippo I ignored the want to be logic type This forums is about DDO, when you have several different why cant ddo be more like wow or wow vs ddo type threads pop up it doesnt take a genius to say "why is a game forums devoted to one type game being spammed with this ****." It be different if this was just some random general forums then my house analogy would be flawed but considering this is the DDO forums it makes more sense then his park reference could ever.

It would seriously be like many of us going to a wow forums and making topics about ddo over and over to me that is very immature and I think having people change the subject to cookies and using pictures is far less threatening or immature then what we would get in a wow forums doing what has been done here. But instead of arguing im just going to start squelching people who start topics like this and their defenders there is no reasoning with people like this and im tired of trying to.

[Warlawk]

Aren't you doing the same thing in this thread ???

And as for your metaphor further down the thread, you are doing EXACTLY the same thing

Actually, the things I have posted are relevant to the subject of "friendly forums" which is the topic of this thread. I didn't claim that I don't want to discuss the topic, then come in and spam off topic posts in an attempt to derail the thread. Pretty basic difference. But it's easier to try and make me look like the bad guy than it is to admit that kind of behavior is childish.

[Beld]

Actually, the things I have posted are relevant to the subject of "friendly forums" which is the topic of this thread. I didn't claim that I don't want to discuss the topic, then come in and spam off topic posts in an attempt to derail the thread. Pretty basic difference. But it's easier to try and make me look like the bad guy than it is to admit that kind of behavior is childish.

Childish in the context of having fun, maybe....childish in the context of calling names/throwing a tantrum....hmmmm, will let you decipher that one, think I am going to take Kalari's cue on this one.