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    Default The Admiral’s Guide to Treasure Hoarding (Airships, Renoun, and Storage)

    A vast ye mattey!

    Here is a guide for all those pirates with bulging chests and the savvy that can go the distance for days on end. This is not just a guide about airships, but how to raise a fleet of treasure ships and darken the skies over Stormreach and beyond!

    Why have more than one airship? I don’t know about you, but I have allot of booty and need space to park it. I keep my main character in the main guild as usual, but now have a fleet of treasure ships for my lootz.

    The ships in the treasure fleet don’t need to go all the way to level 150. I’m content with getting most to level 19 for Guild Storage I (80 slots), but I have some level 50s in the mix. Level 50 will more than likely be my resting point for the treasure ships.

    At level 10 its 50k plat for the base FTP ship. At level 19 you can get Guild Storage I for 150 AS. At level 50 you can get the Guild Storage II for 125 AS for a grand total of 160 slots. Along the journey to level 50 you can get a bigger FTP ship and the old small and large chests for the cargo hold. Here are the DDO wiki links for both the new and old amenties:



    The old chests still have value. I park long term storage there. I don’t always keep the old chest buffs going and let them expire. At a later point should the need arise to get into the chest, I will plant another one in the cargo hold. All the loot that was in chest when it expired will still be in there once you put it back down. I really like how the new storage and ship buffs are permanent.

    To put things into perspective I will build 6 treasure galleons. The maximum small guild bonus is set at 6 accounts. You get the biggest boost in renoun when a guild has 6 active accounts. The amount of characters per account in the guild does not matter, just active accounts.

    Six ships with Guild Storage I yields 480 slots for storage. Level them to 50 and that’s 960 slots of storage. This does not count the old ship chests. Furthermore, you get allot of extra storage space with all those alt characters from their backpacks and banks.

    For added value I bought more starter packs from the DDO Market on Black Friday for $2.50 each. I spent $10 for 4 packs grand total during the sale. The Starter Packs are $9.99 when not on sale. This allowed me to make my alt accounts premium, which bumped the avail character slots from 2 to 4, plus other goodies.

    How do you access all the loot across ships, accounts, and toons? My main account has all the guild leaders for the treasure ships. I send stuff back forth via shared bank. Four of my accounts have shared banks. The shared bank is key and easy to get. The Starter pack comes with 250 TPs and with 1st time favor bonuses on each server it’s not hard to get the shared bank when it’s on sale.

    Likewise a Guild Charter is 150 TPs. Three first time favor bonuses on different servers will get you a charter fast:



    You can use the advice in this post without spending any RL money. It just takes longer. If you want to maximize the free in FTP, the web links above are worth reading and pondering.

    If you’re savvy enough, a convoy of treasure ships can be obtained in game to store all kinds of items for the win!
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    Default How to Farm Renoun

    I farm renoun in two ways.

    First I like to queue up a bunch of sagas and turn them in. Or you can run 1-3 epic saga chains a night for comms/Heart Seeds and renoun. There are several popular circuits and some roads less traveled that are good for saga farming as well. Remember to use a guild renoun pot before turning in the sagas for even more renoun.

    The second way is to farm quests. Farm quests at level or below. There are clusters of quests throughout the game that can be farmed fast for renoun as you level from level 1 to 28. For a level guide check out Crazyfruit’s thread, Best places to earn Guild Renown:



    Use guild renoun pots and go for quests with fast completion times with many chests. You want fast completion ( 4 minutes or less) to get the most out of your pots, and more chests for more chance to loot renoun. Also don't forget quest turn in as well. Quest turn in is another great source of renoun.

    Turn and burn on the completion. Ransack and move to next quest. Rinse and repeat once a week. I run without pots for the most part unless they are free. I get nice renoun from sagas as well, so I don't sweat the pots.

    To maximize renoun use the small guild bonus, weekend bonus, renoun pot, and saga turn in.

    Lastly, if you gain 3 guild levels or more in a day you will reach renoun ransack. However, you can ransack farming quests, and then turn in your sagas. You can still get the saga renoun while on ransack. Likewise, you also still get renoun from monster kills. When on renoun ransack the chests and end rewards lists don’t drop renoun until your ransack wears off.
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    Default Astral Shards

    Well, how about those Astral Shards that you mention?

    You have 3 ways to get Astral Shards in the game; buy them, make them on the Shard Exchange, or win them from a daily dice roll.

    30 shards from the DDO Store costs 195 TPs. That is 4 first-time favor rewards of 50 TPs on 4 different servers if you're savvy.

    To earn Astral Shards from the Shard Exchange you need to post items that sell. It costs 1 shard to post an item on the exchange. You get the shard back if your item does not sell. If you got 30 shards, then you can post 30 items. I always try to keep at least 1 shard on hand in case I got something nice to sell.

    In turn, you can fund your ship amenities like Guild Storage I, Orien Express, and Farshifter with shards that you made off the exchange. I've always found EE GH items to be great sellers.

    Hopefully lightening will strike twice:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Livmo View Post
    Well, how about those Astral Shards that you mention?
    If you got 30 shards, then you can post 30 items


    What about premium limits on auction posting?

    These have been, espically the first post, some of the best info in the game ever.
    I never thought in a million years of linking guild chests to main account leaders, with shared bank. wow. just wow, very impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindos View Post
    What about premium limits on auction posting?

    These have been, espically the first post, some of the best info in the game ever.
    I never thought in a million years of linking guild chests to main account leaders, with shared bank. wow. just wow, very impressive.
    Thank you!

    Since I'm a hoarder I've never approached the upper limits of postings It's difficult to muster the courage to post 2-3 items at a one time! Still better than collecting cats in RL in my opinion : ) )

    Basically it only takes one shard to post 1 item to begin collecting shards for the ships.

    Also, since the drop rates increased with the last update, now would be a good time to farm EE ToR for helms to sell on the shard exchange to make shards for the ship amenities. Before prices start to decline as more people start selling helms.

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    I don't understand? What more are the guild storage chests providing you that a bank character/account does not? Hoarders are actually asking for more BTC space which neither a bank character nor a guild chest provide.
    And honestly, it costs a lot more to get guilds and airships than just roll a new character. Am I missing something?

    Btw, free players cannot post at the ASAH even if they have shards from rolls.
    My main server is Khyber. Have toons in almost every server for favor purposes. The Faltouts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livmo View Post
    Likewise a Guild Charter is 150 TPs. Three first time favor bonuses on different servers will get you a charter fast:



    You can use the advice in this post without spending any RL money. It just takes longer. If you want to maximize the free in FTP, the web links above are worth reading and pondering.
    I have also found that friendly VIPs will create a guild for FREE with whatever name you like, promote you, and leave it. Just put a message in harbor chat or a big chat channel on the server and people tend to help out.
    Orien: ~Erofen (30 Assassin Rogue) ~Erofenlock (30 EB Warlock) ~Erofenmonk (30 Light Monk) ~Erofentrap (30 Roguerficer (1st TR/Legend Build ever)) ~Erofenbarb (30 Barb) ~Erofenbless (30 FvS Chest Blesser) ~Erofenthree (30 Bard Dualbox) ~Erofenten (30 Barb Triplebox)
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    Um, I'm almost afraid to ask, but exactly just what is 'sneak humping'? Kex! Stop It! O.o

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    Default Mind Blown Again on a Sat. Night!

    Quote Originally Posted by Erofen View Post
    I have also found that friendly VIPs will create a guild for FREE with whatever name you like, promote you, and leave it. Just put a message in harbor chat or a big chat channel on the server and people tend to help out.
    I've never been VIP before. Mind blown! Wow, I had this happen before a while back on the forums. That is a much better strategy. TYVM for sharing

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    Default How to Farm Guild Renown Pots ~ Warning Involves Cannith Challenges :)

    Foremost, here are some wiki links for those new to guild renown and challenges.



    The Vaults of the Artificers challenge pack can sometimes go on sale for a deep discount. If you're premium, watch for deals. For those that already have access to Vaults of the Artificers, it can be farmed for Minor Guild Renown Elixirs to boost your renown output. Guild Storage I is at L19 and Guild Storage II at L50. Combined that is 180 slots of storage per ship not counting the old school chests.

    To build up my treasure ships fast I like to run sagas. Once all my sagas are ready for turn in, I drink a guild renown pot and then turn them in. However, at various levels throughout the game you can farm quests for renown on the way from level 1 to 28. The Minor Guild Renown Elixirs are great for this as well.

    It takes 150 non-epic ingredients from the Cannith Challenges to trade in for 1 Minor Guild Renown Elixir.

    Here are some more challenge related DDO Forum links that you may find useful:



    I personally like to make my challenge farmers out of iconics, but after playing warlock I might make a warlock based challenge farmer. DDoor is a great spell to have when running the challenges solo and/or with a group.

    EDIT ~ BTW it's fairly easy to get more than 150 non-epic ingrediants in 1 run solo. However it's more fun to group and you get moar! Make it a guild night
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    Default Shard Airship Amenities on the Cheap

    A list of airship amenities that cost Astral Shards can be found on this DDO Wiki page, http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships.

    I have another guild/treasure ship on the cusp of hitting level 50, which means I will want to upgrade my Guild Storage I (80 slots) to Guild Storage II (an additional 20 slots per chest for a grand total of 160).

    I wanted to give a heads up that you don't have to pay full Astral Shard price for the shard amenities. There are some cheaper ways to get shard amenities. My personal favorite is getting guild ship amenity deeds from champion chests. I know a rare occurence for sure, but a great feeling when you pull one from a champ chest.

    Another way to get amenity deeds on the cheap is from the Auction House and/or Shard Exchange when they are available. Use the list of amenities at http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships as a guide when shopping the auction houses. Why? Because some folks post deeds there for more than what you can get them for on your ship. The Guild Storage series gets cheaper as you go up in levels and NOT more expensive. Be a savy consumer and don't overpay. The goal is to come away cheap for your treasure ships.

    Did you know that you can buy the deeds from the auction houses and store them until your guild(s) are high enough level to use them? Always keep an eye out for a deal. You never know what you'll find unless you look!

    OK time for some screenies:

    Storing deeds. I got these on the cheap from the auction houses for less than what they can be had for on the guild ship:

    A sampling of what was available last night on my home server:

    Another sampling screenie from last night:


    OMG! Don't overpay! Guild storage goes down in shard price, not up when your guild levels. BUYER BEWARE, use list at http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships when shopping for amenities. The Guild Storage V upgrade is 15 shards on the ship when you hit guild level 150!

    Here is another bad deal example from last night. Guild Storage II on ship is 125 shards for the upgrade when your guild hits level 50.

    I had some items sell on the Shard Exchange and went shopping. Using the chart at http://ddowiki.com/page/Guild_Airships to compare what was available last night on the Shard Exchange, I made some bids:

    If you are active in pursuing champ chests, you can get lucky and score a free deed sometimes. However, you can also check the auction houses under the Miscellaneous tabs to find some amenity deals to deeds on the cheap for your treasure ships.

    On a side note, I've pulled 2 Cannith Crafting Hall deeds from champ chests and bought 3 off the auctions houses on the cheap. 5 out of my 7 treasure ships have Cannith Crafting Halls. Makes it easy to run down the hall of the ship and crunch stuff if I need to. I also have a crafter in each of the 7 guilds as well. It's nice to have other amenities on your treasure ships besides the guild storage.
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    Hoard all the things! <3 Livmo
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    Exclamation Midwinter Snowball Deficiancy

    What's the game plan for winter 2022-23?

    The struggle is real!



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    Stumbled on this thread while preparing for imports from HC server. Bravo!

    (Been making a bunch of new accounts for storage and thinking about filing systems for toon names tonight)

    How do you have your tabs set up across 6 ships?

    On Thelanis I have a solo ship with Guild Storage 1 and Small Chest in Cargo hold
    Currently use the chests more for transferring gear than for long term storage, but ships as storage is very appealing.
    I have a few dedicated mules and find my current system confusing, thus the new accounts.
    Long term, working towards another 1-2 ships with Guild Storage 1 seems easier than levelling up my 1st solo guild to get max storage.

    Originally the goal was to have a 'storefront' for Cannith Crafting orders, was inactive during a big update for that though and came back to a bunch of broken shards, lol

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