A sneak peek at Update 24’s dungeons … and beyond

[Dramentia]

I would like to see with the new content a re-work of Archmage tree. Unless you are Warforged or PM no one plays wizard. Archmage needs a familiar. And some kind of healing amp or something. Let us magically infuse potions like arti's or give access to healing wands. And maybe even let us make wands. I don't want to play a pm and I don't want to be warforged either. And unless you are one of the two you are not getting into raids. Hell you are lucky to survive regular quests. We need something to make a non pm non warforged wizard viable. The harper tree helps but come on give us something better. Everything bloody evades the arcane blast and bolts in higher levs. So make it more powerful and let us heal better at least.

[Oxarhamar]

Exactly what player feedback on Anaurock?

The same type of player feedback with Crystal Cove Augments that got scrapped because, a few players said "boo"?


Common man! let's have some surveys or at least threads for/against for this type of player content killing feedback so we can see that this is actually what the players want.

I might even go as far as to have an in game survey on log in for such things. In that case every active player gets a voice not just the few on the forums who are saying "boo"


Tell us please, how many players disliked or liked Anaurock?

[FranOhmsford]

Exactly what player feedback on Anaurock?

The same type of player feedback with Crystal Cove Augments that got scrapped because, a few players said "boo"?


Common man! let's have some surveys or at least threads for/against for this type of player content killing feedback so we can see that this is actually what the players want.

I might even go as far as to have an in game survey on log in for such things. In that case every player gets a voice not just the few on the forums who are saying "boo"


Tell us please, how many players disliked or liked Anaurock?

I'm on the forums every day and I haven't seen any concerted player feedback for OR against Anauroch!

This feedback isn't coming from the forums - It's not coming from In-Game - Where is it coming from exactly?

[scipiojedi]

Exactly what player feedback on Anaurock?

I might even go as far as to have an in game survey on log in for such things. In that case every player gets a voice not just the few on the forums who are saying "boo"


Tell us please, how many players disliked or liked Anaurock?

I agree, I think I'm the only one in my guild who reads the forums, so if it is like that across the database then devs are only getting input from a small fraction of the playerbase. In-game surveys I think would work well.

As to the new content: I actually really dislike the Harbinger of Madness chain but I did Acute Delirium once and enjoyed it. But anything that makes it so I don't have to repeat quests is good so keep the new content coming!
I haven't gone through Haunted Halls yet so I have no comment on that aspect.

[legendkilleroll]

Well I for one absolutely LOATHE Delirium and Acute Delirium!

In the Flesh is also amongst my least favourite dungeons!

So this doesn't excite me one bit!

You're shooting yourselves in the feet by making every new pack both Heroic and Epic with High Level Heroic Versions.

Why would anyone run EE when they can get the Favour from HE? {This is also a problem with low level Heroic versions of Epic Quests but at least they don't come so close together and you might get a few people running both Heroic and Epic versions!}.

What's the point of running HE after that first Favour run when you can get 3 x or more the XP from Epic Normal {which we can now enter at Lvl 20!}.
What's the point of running HN or HH at all?
At least with a low level quest you've got the Newbies who might make use of the HH or HN difficulties.

So anything that poses more challenge than others at level you dislike, i dont run the deliriums alot and havent had the harbinger pack for too long but the times ive Puged in the flesh at level elite has gone by without any problems

Hmm what? not doing EE for favor reasons, People will still do EE, if its tied to saga, even better

[Vellrad]

ToEE is terrible choice.

You couldn't have bought licence for an adventure THAT WASN'T ALREADY COVERED IN A VIDEO GAME?

First run of dungeon will aready be repetition, unless its entirely different.

[ToastyFred]

Will we need to make some Greater Ooze Bane weapons?

[Angelic-council]

Nine hells?... That's very cool guys. I hope.. one day we get to visit 7 heavens.

[ForgettableNPC]

Yes....YES!


THE MADNESS APPROACHETH!
*Laughs maniacally*
Also, good, lv 18-20 range has been really lacking in quests.

Now if we could get a third part of the Droaam Storyline...

[Baal222]

I like Xoriat. beholders, for me, are very iconic of the D&D game. I don't know much about the temple of elemental evil, but it has me intrigued. Also, I get pushing back content, but I had the impression it was mostly done already? Are we still getting epic destiny revamps soon? And are we still getting intelligent weapons eventually? Cause those are the things I'm excited about.

[Angelic-council]

First, yes^2 for Temple.

Second, meh to the Xoriat stuff. I could take it or leave it.

Third, more dragons? Sure. I'll take that.

Overall, excited at this. Especially by ToEE. Yes. Don't forget Village of Hommlet pre-quest. Props to Vasax for mentioning it ^first.^

Running PnP ToEE was never ever ever a one-session run. It was so massive and daunting. When you finished it was after several sessions and multiple trips in and out of the place, and it meant something. That being said, ToEE could be its own saga, with at least 8-10 individual quests. Capstone could be a raid. Or maybe not.

I love HHoE but agree with all comments above. First time through is awesome. Every run after that is Zerg zerg.

More dragons and more undeads. Next update, more and more undeads how about celestial.

[Singular]

Please make the ToEE consist of several quests instead of just one large one.

[FranOhmsford]

Also, good, lv 18-20 range has been really lacking in quests.

IQ+DD, The High Road, Stormhorns, Amrath, House Cannith, Murder By Night/The Riddle, HoX/VoD

How is that really lacking?

Plus: Apart from IQ/DD and the two E-Star quests these simply don't get run at level for Heroics anyway!

People are hitting 20 even on multiple TRs from GH/Vale/Spinner!

The Level 17s - Reaver's Refuge and The Second Madness Chain {with the honourable exceptions of Shroud and Sane Asylum for pretty obvious reasons!} get run even less!


P.S. There's 13 Lvl 18 Quests according to the DDO Wiki and 21 {TWENTY ONE} Lvl 19s!
There's also 14 Lvl 16s and 14 Lvl 17s
You know how many Lvl 15s there are?
TEN!
You know how many Lvl 12s there are?
ELEVEN!
13s?
TEN!
14s?
TEN!


And I'll say this again...Cos it seems to really need saying!

Lvl 17-19 Quests don't get run! {Well after the 1st time for Favour that is AND that can be done at Lvl 28!}.

[fmalfeas]

TASTE THE SPLENDOR OF XORIAT!!!

Thank you!!! Seriously, I run both madness chains every single life, no matter the build. (Some builds have to run on Normal because they're just not that buff, but still...) Xoriat stuff is my favorite stuff in Eberron. Gibbering madness, Abberations galore, braineating...and the eyes...they are watching you. Speak with your feet, if you want to save your sole!

[HatsuharuZ]

I'm very happy to see more Xoriat quests! I know it's silly, but I hope that you put armors/shields that druids can equip in these quests somewhere.

Or how about an Orb that looks like a large eyeball?

[nibel]

I'm really, really, REALLY happy to see a brand new Eberron chain added. Since MotU, all we had was epic versions of old dungeons, and Brothers of Forge. It being Xoriat related makes it even better. Thanks you. A lot.

ToEE is an interesting surprise, and while I am myself a casual player, I would like to implore you to make this quest as hard and harsh as possible. Harsh as in "will take the best players in the game a few weeks before first full dungeon completion". To avoid the zergrush that infested Haunted Halls, I would suggest a "miniboss secret counter" and miniboss random locations, so that only after defeating all minibosses, the big optional boss will spawn (also in a random location). You can keep the "quest final boss" concept of HH for quest completion and XP, but gate the real big loot behind something that requires a full search.

I'm on the forums every day and I haven't seen any concerted player feedback for OR against Anauroch!

I talk all the time about not adding anything Forgotten Realms related. Does this count?

[mudfud]

Content designer Knockback here. I’ve worked on dungeons such as “Eyes of Stone,” “The Snitch,” “A Study In Sable” and the Thunderholme adventure area, and I’m here to update you folks on some of the things we’re currently building for DDO.

Upcoming dungeons in Update 24

Update 24 will be previewed on Lamannia starting this weekend, so now seems like a good time to unveil its dungeons. Get ready for some surprises!

First up in Update 24 is a new content pack, Heart of Madness. The plane of Xoriat is encroaching on Eberron once again and the result is three dungeons full of Xorian insanity. Both the Lord of Eyes and the Lord of Stone are back, as well as some other fan favorite characters. (Hint – one of the dungeons is named “Fashion Madness.”) The centerpiece of the pack is “Terminal Delirium,” the follow-up to two of our most popular dungeons. Once again you’ll be returning to the Sleeping Spell Inn, and once again you’ll be seeing—and be turned into—some very unusual things. Heart of Madness is CR 18 Heroic/26 Epic, and is a paid pack (450 Turbine Points; free to VIPs of course.)

Also coming in Update 24 is a Forgotten Realms dungeon themed to tie in with Wizards of the Coast’s Tyranny of Dragons storyline. You’ll infiltrate a Cult of the Dragon base while on the trail of the fabled White Dragon mask. “The Mask of Deception” is CR 16 Heroic/30 Epic, and is free to everyone.

Hey, what happened to Anauroch?

Earlier we had mentioned Anauroch as one of the places we wanted to go in 2014. Obviously that’s not happening.

Why the change? It’s tempting to blame it all on Xorian madness, but the truth is we’ve been listening to what excites you guys when it comes to D&D settings. We may still make it to Anauroch eventually, but don’t expect it any time soon. It’s a long, long walk from Cormyr. Instead of the blazing hot desert, we’re going someplace cooler instead.

Future plans and Update 25

So what kind of cool things led to the detour away from Anauroch? One of them will be coming in Update 25. Since The Haunted Halls of Eveningstar was received so well, we’ve decided to adapt another classic pen-and-paper module to DDO. Rather than blabbing on, I’ll skip right to the awesome part and give you five simple words:

The Temple of Elemental Evil.

Yep, we will be creating our own version of the original, classic Temple inside DDO. We’re very excited about adapting one of the most famous modules in Dungeons and Dragons history, and we hope you are too.

In the meantime, though, we have a date with insanity. Hope to see everyone this weekend on Lamannia for a preview of Update 24!

Why are you, ( a mere developer ) and not an actual producer making this announcement?

[Claver]

I hope you guys have giant halfling swallowing Frogs and a Cleric boss with black armor and slit helm with an eyeball emblem on his chest. 30some years later I want to payback that cleric for smacking me upside the head, repeatedly, with his mace.

[FranOhmsford]

I talk all the time about not adding anything Forgotten Realms related. Does this count?

You're not alone there BUT I don't believe the Devs have put Anaurouch on the back burner simply because some people hate the Realms.

Either that or Uska has far more clout with Turbine than any of us thought!

[Claver]