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    Default Celcia – The "Impossible” Dream

    Celcia – The “Impossible” Dream

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    First Life
    32 Point Build
    H/Elf 20 Fighter 8 Epic TN

    This is a work in progress AC intimitank build. First of before getting flamed I know this build is not finished and needs more work but its an idea for making a first life EE viable tank. With the healing amp and incite from items and enhancements mean its fairly easy to heal and with the AC HP pool and PRR mean you don’t take huge amounts of damage as well as nice saves.

    The character would obviously improve with tr, past life’s temp buffs like yugo pots, GS HP item, etc but not really necessary. The DPS isnt on par with a pure DPS toon ….its a tank :P holding agro hasn't been an issue and with being a half elf the twin intimidates are nice to have in emergency, also the cleave and G cleave are very useful for increasing damage output and damaging mobs in aoe to assist tanking.

    The amount of toughness included in the build can be reduced but was in a HP arms race with another guildie .

    STR 34 (Base 12, Tome 5, Enhancements 8, Gear 7 (Gloves), Ship Buffs 2) 38 on Fabricator proc.
    DEX 30 (Base 14, Tome 5, Gear 7, ship buffs 2) 34 on Fabricator proc.
    CON 70 (Base 18, Level Ups 7, Tome 5, Feats 1, Enhancements 11, Gear 14, Destiny 6,
    Stalwart Stance 6, Ship Buffs 2) 74 on Fabricator proc.
    INT 15 (base 9, Tome 5, Gear -1, ship buffs 2)
    WIS 14 (base 8, Tome 5, Gear -1, ship buffs 2)
    CHA 28 (base 13, Tome 5, Gear 8, ship buffs 2)

    HP:2192 (vigor of battle stance)
    AC:180
    PRR:142
    DR:15/Evil, 15/Pierce, 15/Lawful (EE Djinn), 1/-.
    Dodge: 4% (can be improved)
    Defense chance at level: 77%

    Saves:

    Fort: 65
    Ref: 39
    Will: 31

    +5 to all in stand against the tide stance

    Fort 158%, 183% in stand against the tide stance


    1: Shield Mastery, Toughness, Dilettante :Paladin
    2: Dodge
    3: Power Attack
    4: CON, Cleave
    5:
    6: Toughness, Great Cleave
    7:
    8: CON, Imp Shield Mastery
    9: Toughness
    10: Imp Crit Slash
    11:
    12: CON, Focus Slash, Toughness
    13:
    14: Weapon Special Slash
    15: Toughness, Force of Personality
    16: CON, Mobility
    17:
    18: Toughness, Weapon Prof Bastard sword
    19:
    20: CON, Combat Expertise
    21: Toughness
    22:
    23:
    24: CON, Epic Toughness
    25:
    26: Holy Strike
    27: Great Con
    28: CON, Toughness

    Equipment:

    Helm: White Dragon, (+3 ins con)EE socket 20 vit and sonic rez 35
    Goggles: Drow Smoke Goggles,
    Armour: Flawless White Dragon Plate (T1), socket 35 hp (can upgrade to more)
    Bracer: Fabricators Bracers,
    Ring: Ring Of The Buccaneer,(lvl 20 upgraded t3) socket deathblock
    Boots: Spiked Boots, EE socket acid 35 and fire 35
    Gloves: PDK Gloves,
    Ring: +10 con 20 tumble ring
    Belt: Dagger Tooth's Belt, EE socket fear immune and nat armour 7(can upgrade)
    Cloak: Ghost-Waking Cloak EE
    Trinket: Brawn's Spirit, epic socket ins dex 2
    Neck: Jorgundal's Collar, EE socketed con 7(upgradeable) and imp dragon blood
    (exc con 1)
    Shield : Bastion EE
    Sword : Nightmare full upgraded socketed Vampire slayer augment (when i get it :P)


    Swap out gear :

    Ring : Ring Of The Djinn, EE (socketed con on neck to reduce con loss on swap)
    Swords: E chimeras Fang, GS trip poss, Twinblade, Charoush's Inferno,

    Skills : (+5 stat tomes eaten at level 19 so on tr or lesser more skills points available for maybe umd)

    Balance: 48 (base 11, Tome 3, Ability 10, epic skills 8, Gear 25,
    ship buff 1)
    Jump : 19 (base 6, Ability 12, ship buff 1) armour and shield seem to negate epic skills and good luck 2)
    Intimidate 84 (base 23, Ability 9, Tome 3, feats 2,epic skills 8, gear 22, enhancements 3, Unyielding Sentinel 6, Hidden 7 (poss from stalwart), ship buff 1


    Enhancements :

    17 H/Elf:

    Core
    Core 1, CON, Elven Acc, STR, Elven Acc.

    Imp Dill Pally 1, Imp Dill 1, Lesser Divine Health, Dill STR, Imp Dill 1.

    63 Stalwart Defender:

    all 6 cores

    3 item defence, 3 durable defence, 3 stalwart defence mastery, 3 threatening countenance, 3 armour expertise, 3 stalwart shield mastery, 3 inciting defence, 1 resilient defence, 3 hardy defence, 3 shield expertise, 1 CON, 1 CON, 3 reinforced armour, 3 strong defence, 1 swift defence, 3 tenacious defender, 3 reinforced shield


    Epic Dest

    Capped out Unyielding Sentinel

    4 CON, 3 shield prowess, 3 legendry shield mastery, 2 brace for impact, 3 block energy, 3 harden.

    Twists
    level 3: improved combat expertise
    level 1: CON
    level 1: CON

    Many stats can be improved with different gear layouts and upgrading augments to the newer level 25+ ones





    Hope this helps
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    *pulls up large comfy sofa, prepares copious amounts of tea coffee beer and popcorn, gets comfy and awaits the show*
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    My Crafter - Celeia - regularly gets mistaken for Celcia.

    Let me just say that it's great to finally see Celcia's build posted in all it's glory.


    P.S. Nice Trolling Smurf

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    Well, it's a nice tin can... but looking at the build I would bet she can't fight her way out of a wet paper bag (though I'm sure the bag will be very angry at you when you intimidate).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inoukchuk View Post
    Well, it's a nice tin can... but looking at the build I would bet she can't fight her way out of a wet paper bag (though I'm sure the bag will be very angry at you when you intimidate).
    well when they put a EE wet paper bag Boss in raid it should be very worried :P

    however it can tank quite well in EE and raids self healing needs work but with holding agro the only thing that seems to take it of her is the fury , add rush, multi shot, slaying agro which is quickly fixed with intim :P

    but have run many EE and had no issue with holding agro and the same with most raids in the game to date

    but yeh DAM THOSE PAPER BAGS :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valicathion View Post
    well when they put a EE wet paper bag Boss in raid it should be very worried :P

    however it can tank quite well in EE and raids self healing needs work but with holding agro the only thing that seems to take it of her is the fury , add rush, multi shot, slaying agro which is quickly fixed with intim :P

    but have run many EE and had no issue with holding agro and the same with most raids in the game to date

    but yeh DAM THOSE PAPER BAGS :P

    Storm Reaver, and Truthful are ficking hard paper bags and yes they were VERY angry, they still couldn't take Celcia down.

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    Talking of Supposedly not being able to DPS - I've run my Gimps with Celcia on numerous occasions in Elite BBs {yes Heroics} and E-Hards Pre 26-28.

    And Cel's more than capable of DPSing when required.

    Also Celcia may be only a first life character but I know Valicathion and he has more alts than I do {one of whom is a Completionist Cleric!} - I've had many arguments with Valicathion over DDO but one thing I do know - I've not run with anyone better able to do their job {no matter what the character} in this game!

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    Go Dwarf and you can pickup the Con to Damage Enhancement, shame to have a con that much higher than your STR and not use that to your advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOTMON View Post
    Go Dwarf and you can pickup the Con to Damage Enhancement, shame to have a con that much higher than your STR and not use that to your advantage.
    ty for that may have to dorf her next life

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOTMON View Post
    Go Dwarf and you can pickup the Con to Damage Enhancement, shame to have a con that much higher than your STR and not use that to your advantage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Valicathion View Post
    ty for that may have to dorf her next life
    Celcia's way older than that Dwarf Enhancement and I've heard you say on multiple occasions Valic that Cel's not getting TRd except for possible Pally and Barb past lives - So Dwarf Pally then?

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    How's this for a Dwarven Version...I originally had a bunch of the weapon spec and the like feats but honestly between Dwarf and Stalwart your already starving for AP without bringing Kensai into the mix.
    Dwarven Fighter 20 (Axes,Picks or Hammers & Tower Shield)

    Str 12 (Needs +1 by Lvl 12)
    Dex 12
    Con 20 (Lvl-ups here)
    Int 14
    Wis 8
    Cha 6

    Skill: Intim, Jump, Balance, UMD

    Feats
    1 Dragonmark
    1F Combat Expertise
    2F SM
    3 SF: Intim
    4F ISB
    6 Toughness
    6F S-Deflect
    8F ISM
    9 Toughness
    10F Power Attack
    12 Toughness
    12F Cleave
    14F Great Cleave
    15 Toughness
    16F IC:Slashing,Piercing or Bludgeoning
    18 Toughness
    18F Quick Draw
    20 Toughness
    ED Unyielding Sentinel
    21 Epic Toughness
    24 Bulwark of Defense
    26 Holy Strike
    27 Blinding Speed
    28 Elusive Target
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    How's this for a Dwarven Version...I originally had a bunch of the weapon spec and the like feats but honestly between Dwarf and Stalwart your already starving for AP without bringing Kensai into the mix.
    Dwarven Fighter 20 (Axes,Picks or Hammers & Tower Shield)

    Str 12 (Needs +1 by Lvl 12)
    Dex 12
    Con 20 (Lvl-ups here)
    Int 14
    Wis 8
    Cha 6

    Skill: Intim, Jump, Balance, UMD

    Feats
    1 Dragonmark
    1F Combat Expertise
    2F SM
    3 SF: Intim
    4F ISB
    6 Toughness
    6F S-Deflect
    8F ISM
    9 Toughness
    10F Power Attack
    12 Toughness
    12F Cleave
    14F Great Cleave
    15 Toughness
    16F IC:Slashing,Piercing or Bludgeoning
    18 Toughness
    18F Quick Draw
    20 Toughness
    ED Unyielding Sentinel
    21 Epic Toughness
    24 Bulwark of Defense
    26 Holy Strike
    27 Blinding Speed
    28 Elusive Target


    that looks fun :P may have to munch an intimi skill upgrade and look into dwarf race tree
    thanks for the feedback

    also trying to think of useful pastlives etc that may be useful.
    not planning on com yet at least
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valicathion View Post
    that looks fun :P may have to munch an intimi skill upgrade and look into dwarf race tree
    thanks for the feedback
    I was working on it anyways and I noticed you were looking for a dwarf version so I figured it couldn't hurt to post it here

    I really do wonder how high this can get HP wise...I'd say at least 2500 if not 3000 with the best equipment possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    I was working on it anyways and I noticed you were looking for a dwarf version I really do wonder how high this can get HP wise...I'd say at least 2500 if not 3000 with the best equipment possible
    well i know Celcia can top 4200+ in last stand :P
    but with the extra con from dwarf and extra con from race tree , the hp increse from that + thestalwart bonus to that .......should be tasty :P

    need to wait for these "mythical" hearts to magically "apeer" in my inventory then il have to start capping my ED's then ready to find out :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valicathion View Post
    well i know Celcia can top 4200+ in last stand :P
    but with the extra con from dwarf and extra con from race tree , the hp increse from that + thestalwart bonus to that .......should be tasty :P

    need to wait for these "mythical" hearts to magically "appear" in my inventory then il have to start capping my ED's then ready to find out :P
    Hmmmm....I think we can break the Max HP record with this guy (It's currently 2737)
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    Well, inspired by OP, I decided to toss up my take on a CON-based S&B tank. Overall I think it's more well-rounded than Celcia, though it won't hit its bragging-rights HPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valicathion View Post
    2: Toughness
    14: Toughness
    16: CON, Toughness
    Toughness isn't a ftr bonus feat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Toughness isn't a ftr bonus feat.
    The Lvl 2 Toughness is simple enough - Just swap it with Cleave at Lvl 1

    Weapon Spec at Lvl 12 can also be safely swapped with Toughness at 14

    and I believe that Leaves Mobility at Lvl 9 to swap with the Lvl 16 Toughness.

    Valic was on a lvl 28 Character and trying to work out when he took all those Toughness Feats - I'm not surprised he got the Lvls mixed up tbh.

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    Just pointing out OP needs to clean up his feat order.

    Which reminds me: ISM req's BAB 8, so can't be taken before lvl 8; it's listed @ lvl 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Just pointing out OP needs to clean up his feat order.

    Which reminds me: ISM req's BAB 8, so can't be taken before lvl 8; it's listed @ lvl 6.
    Swap it with Dodge then.

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