Still no 32 point build in the shop?

[r3dl4nce]

C'mon, there are lot of players interested in paying to get 32 point build from the store instead of reaching 1750 favor (just like drow and favored soul) and still there isn't this option ?
Turbine, are you sure you want our money? Seems you don't like them (I am a former european player, already a VIP on DDO:Eberron Unlimited but I have no time to farm 1750 and then do again the character, I'm ready to pay to buy 32 pnt build).

[KoboldKiller]

Turbine has already said they have no intention of making 32pt builds purchasable.

How is it you have no time to play the game to get the favor needed?

Are you playing the game at all? If yes, then you have the time it's just up to you whether or not you want to put in the effort.

[Samiusbot]

I would be nice to pay to up grade a 28 point build to a 32 point build and maybe reset that PC's stats. Problem would be applying skills points, it might be a coding nightmare.

I say it will be here sooner or later. Probably later.

[r3dl4nce]

Turbine has already said they have no intention of making 32pt builds purchasable.

In a reply to a thread, someone from Turbine staff said they were considering this option.

How is it you have no time to play the game to get the favor needed?

Because I'm not interested in reaching 1750 with a "gimped" char and even if I played for 2+ years on european server, I still don't like zerging too much. Se let me buy my 32 point toon like I can buy drow or FvS.

[KoboldKiller]

So basically it boils down to you not wanting to make the effort.

A 28pt build is not "gimped". When are people going to stop with this concept?

People are gimped, their build is gimped, the amount of points you have at creation does not automatically gimp your alt.

[Avonwey]

So basically it boils down to you not wanting to make the effort.

A 28pt build is not "gimped". When are people going to stop with this concept?

People are gimped, their build is gimped, the amount of points you have at creation does not automatically gimp your alt.

Why is your reply/attitude so snarky? He gave you other reasons why he wants to buy 32-point builds. Your reply "you not wanting to make the effort" is both untrue and makes you sound like a jerk.

You can use the same argument for unlocking drow, yet Turbine has them for sale as well.

[r3dl4nce]

Face the thruth, as soon as you have 1750 favor , you roll a 32 point character. It was for the drow when first he came in game (I remember the harbor full of drows lol). So if they let buy the drow, why not let buy 32 point? As a former euro player, I'd like to recreate my toons here (already did with drow cleric, drow bought from shop) so why I can't recreate my 32 points and I have to zerg to 1750 (I don't like too much zerging) just ot delete that char and made another, simply better?

[Qzipoun]

You can use the same argument for unlocking drow, yet Turbine has them for sale as well.

Just because they did one stupid thing doesn't mean they should do another.

While their at it, a lot of people would be interested in buying WoP rapiers, raid loot, and lvl 20 characters...

[KoboldKiller]

Just because they did one stupid thing doesn't mean they should do another.

While their at it, a lot of people would be interested in buying WoP rapiers, raid loot, and lvl 20 characters...

Exactly.

[Avonwey]

Just because they did one stupid thing doesn't mean they should do another.

While their at it, a lot of people would be interested in buying WoP rapiers, raid loot, and lvl 20 characters...

Except allowing players to purchase Drow is a FANTASTIC idea. I am a returning player who wanted to remake an drow character I had. I'm a casual player with only a little time each week and have zero interest in making one player to unlock another. If the drow purchase option wasn't available I would not have returned.

Drow purchase = happy customer = $$$ for turbine

[Ephemeral]

Just because they did one stupid thing doesn't mean they should do another.

While their at it, a lot of people would be interested in buying WoP rapiers, raid loot, and lvl 20 characters...

The stupid thing here is the existence of the 32pt reward for 1750 favor. Making them buyable in store is fixing that mistake.

Nice strawman argument on the other items.

Simple fact is that 32pt is a showstopper for some people to continue playing the game. It doesn't hurt individual players if Turbine makes 32pt builds available in shop. It will help the playerbase as some people who would have left will stay. It helps Turbine because they will make good revenue from it.

Incidentally, I have unlocked 32pt builds on cannith already, and I fully support making them buyable.

Edit: also, this is the third time I have unlocked 32pt builds, and I still fully support making them buyable.

[eonfreon]

Sounds to me like the OP already made the effort once and already got his 32 pt in the Euro Server.
He just doesn't want to do it again.
I've done it on 2 servers already, but somehow if I go to a new server I'm suddenly not "worthy" of 32 pointers?

[Ephemeral]

So basically it boils down to you not wanting to make the effort.

A 28pt build is not "gimped". When are people going to stop with this concept?

People are gimped, their build is gimped, the amount of points you have at creation does not automatically gimp your alt.

32 - 28 = 4.

Thats 4 points of gimpness right there.

Its not rocket science...

[KoboldKiller]

The stupid thing here is the existence of the 32pt reward for 1750 favor. Making them buyable in store is fixing that mistake.

Nice strawman argument on the other items.

Simple fact is that 32pt is a showstopper for some people to continue playing the game. It doesn't hurt individual players if Turbine makes 32pt builds available in shop. It will help the playerbase as some people who would have left will stay. It helps Turbine because they will make good revenue from it.

Incidentally, I have unlocked 32pt builds on cannith already, and I fully support making them buyable.

Which also hurts your argument because obviously it didn't take that much time or effort to unlock 32 pt builds seeing as Cannith has been up all of what 2.5 weeks.

[eonfreon]

Which also hurts your argument because obviously it didn't take that much time or effort to unlock 32 pt builds seeing as Cannith has been up all of what 2.5 weeks.

Some people do it in 2 days, some in 2 years, so what?

[KoboldKiller]

32 - 28 = 4.

Thats 4 points of gimpness right there.

Its not rocket science...

I have 28pt builds on Cannith and I do not consider any of them gimp.

Gimp is in the mind the player and the build. That being the case then maybe all tomes should be available too because several players with 32 pt builds have added several tomes to their builds thus making it even farther ahead even if you had a 32 pt build right?

[Qzipoun]

Except allowing players to purchase Drow is a FANTASTIC idea. I am a returning player who wanted to remake an drow character I had. I'm a casual player with only a little time each week and have zero interest in making one player to unlock another. If the drow purchase option wasn't available I would not have returned.

Drow purchase = happy customer = $$$ for turbine

Ok, I guess I should have been clearer. It is a good idea in terms of making money, it's a stupid idea in terms of the game. Just like having mana pots in the store, it's ludicrous but it makes them money. Unfortunately, at this point the devs don't care about making a fun game the "right" way, they're model is driven by individual micro transactions. We were supposed to have half-orcs/elves and druids ages ago, now the official word is "if races/class sell well in the store we'll do it". It's no longer an issue of making a game true to the DnD experience, it's all about the money...

[Elsbet]

A 28pt build is not "gimped". When are people going to stop with this concept?

People are gimped, their build is gimped, the amount of points you have at creation does not automatically gimp your alt.

QFT.

Face the thruth, as soon as you have 1750 favor , you roll a 32 point character. It was for the drow when first he came in game (I remember the harbor full of drows lol). So if they let buy the drow, why not let buy 32 point? As a former euro player, I'd like to recreate my toons here (already did with drow cleric, drow bought from shop) so why I can't recreate my 32 points and I have to zerg to 1750 (I don't like too much zerging) just ot delete that char and made another, simply better?

I know a lot of people who still run their 28 pt. builds long after they've built their 32 pt. builds because they built the 28 pointers well. My best cleric is a 28 pt. build. She does better than a lot of 32 pt. builds I've run with.

[KoboldKiller]

The point is this. Before this atrocity they call a DDO store existed everybody accepted that you had to "work" for a 32pt build or Drow. Now all the sudden we want to "buy" our way through the game. It's a joke and shows exactly where this game is headed, in the toilet.

[Ephemeral]

I would be nice to pay to up grade a 28 point build to a 32 point build and maybe reset that PC's stats. Problem would be applying skills points, it might be a coding nightmare.

I say it will be here sooner or later. Probably later.

Irrelevant.

Make 32 pt builds available now, and treat respec of exisiting 28 pt builds as a separate problem.

The availability of 32pt builds in shop is causing new players to discontinue with the game. This is a major issue and can be easily fixed.

The non-availability of a respec from 28 to 32pt builds is annoying, but the existing playerbase has learned to live with it. For those with little or no raid loot on their 28 pt builds, they can easily reroll. For those with lots of raid loot, its a question of which they want more, 4pts on their build or the raid loot they have acquired to date. Its not a major issue.

And before I get ad-hominem'd for that statement, my toon on cannith already has acquired some really nice bound to character gear, including icy raiments, which I would have no guarantee of obtaining again quickly if i was to reroll to 32pts. So i am in the same boat, and I have no issue with 32pt builds being buyable.