If you want to lead noob quests, consider…

[Craigthegreat]

Last night I was on with one of my many alts running through WW elite. Great party composition, given there were 3 Drow including myself, I knew as usual, I was in a party with at least a few folks who have done this once or perhaps a million times before. One dude decided he was going to take the initiative to be the teller of all things WW, which was fine by me because there may have been one or two noobs who might have needed his advice. Since my gf was sleeping, I wasn’t gonna be barking orders so F it.

The trouble was, even though this guy spoke with conviction, truth was, he really didn’t know the quest as well as myself and at least 2 other people in the party, including the 32 pt Elvin Cleric. To add insult to injury this fellow swore like a trucker, which normally doesn’t bother me much, but when every other word out of your yap is a swear, it begins to grate. Anyway, in the midst of telling people to do this and to do that, I began to notice some people, like myself, who actually knew what was going on, were doing their own thing, which was good, because you know, we wanted to finish it.

Well, after part 1, our 32 pnt cleric decides he doesn’t need a noob barking orders at him, such as, “okay, now go shrine” explains that, and then drops the party. He was kind enough to afterwards send me a tell and apologize, which I responded telling him he had no need to apologize to me, because were it not for the fact that I wanted xp on my alt as badly as I did, I sooooooo would have dropped with him.

Point is, if you decide you want to be the “leader” try to at least exemplify some leadership qualities. Try to avoid giving orders in such a way as it could be confused with telling a 3 year old how to use the potty. And it is also important to bear in mind that, while you may have run a noob quest 10 times, and think you got it down, it’s likely…extraordinarily likely, that members of your party have run it 1000 times, with 8-9 different characters.

[stalksdeath]

[Luckylu]

AMEN!

I would like to add that regardless of "situation policies, and leadership skills" all these things add in to people leaving your groups for various reasons. And yeah people may know a quest well, and all, but there people who have done it a gagillion times, and not that we are masters and know it all, I love learning new tricks of trade..... but at times there are days I don't feel like putting up with rediculas deaths, or orders that I find to be lacking. I am sure I am not the only one out there, so I have left my share of quests. Here is the thing though, when people have left my team for whatever reason, I usually send them a tell consisting of "you ok?" usually I get "so and so ticks me off" or whatever, regardless if the person even hated me, I let them go. LET people go if they don't mesh I say, I left a group the other day due to GROSS incompitance and I just wasnt' in the mood to suffer through it, I then recieced several verbal slams by a party member, the thing is sometimes we just don't like how things are going so we leave.

Thanks

Luckylu

[Boldrin]

That's why once I get to level 3 , I just solo WW over and over again for xp. LOL

[ErgonomicCat]

Point is, if you decide you want to be the “leader” try to at least exemplify some leadership qualities. Try to avoid giving orders in such a way as it could be confused with telling a 3 year old how to use the potty. And it is also important to bear in mind that, while you may have run a noob quest 10 times, and think you got it down, it’s likely…extraordinarily likely, that members of your party have run it 1000 times, with 8-9 different characters.

Ain't that the truth. I've been in a number of groups where the "leader" was irrelevant - he was giving random orders, no one was listening, etc.

The flip side: When you're running on toons that are under level 6, don't assume that everyone knows the quest inside and out either. Some of us are actually new to the game, and to the quest.

I ran STK last night with a group. I had to go AFK at the Shrine for 5 mins.

I came back to find that I had *no* idea where they were, or how to get there, and my statement of "I have no idea where you went" was met with something like "Go to the chest by the ladder and go down."

Useful if you know the quest. If this is your 2nd time through it, not so much.

Life intervened, and I had to drop anyway, but I was plenty frustrated at that point....